To avoid disappointment on flower times longer than breeder’s guidance I count flower start at first robust puffy pistil tops. It can take a couple weeks. My usual grows flower 10 weeks, which is 12 weeks from flip. I like dog pics, makes my day. CheersHaven't seen anything, but to be honest I haven't been looking.
I figured if I don't see them, they're not there. It's a state of mind...
I count from the day I switch the light. That way there's no confusion or different opinions as to when to start counting. Pistils can show soon after, or may take longer, depending on certain things, eg genetics, environment etc. I believe seed breeders count from flip.
Can't remember how long it took to see pistils this time, a week maybe.