Here’s post toaster oven. When you come through the toaster oven looking like this you are ready to receive your toaster oven diploma.I couldn’t resist, so I semi-wet trimmed a small part of a cola. Here’s the result. 2 before and two after pictures.
Let me first say that I really appreciate your desire to grow using different techniques every time. It keeps things interesting. I am from the same mold but don't have the space and don't know what I would do with the bounty.
A lot of the numbers got jumbled once I posted. The system removed spaces and "TAB" doesn't.Let me first say that I really appreciate your desire to grow using different techniques every time. It keeps things interesting. I am from the same mold but don't have the space and don't know what I would do with the bounty.
As far as the "less is more" approach, I would like to offer some alternative concepts and some numbers for consideration and comparison.
As far as better air flow for less mold potential, I have some thoughts on that as well.
More nodes equals more buds, I agree 100%. My nodes are 1 - 1 1/2" apart.
Better air flow decreases the chance of mold, I agree 100%.
90% (or more) of the water being consumed by the plant is released into the air by the leaves, transpiration. My grows average 82* F and 43% RH so they go through a lot of water/solution, a couple of gallons per day. By removing the leaves in the "bud" area, I am removing a very large source of water vapor from the area around the buds. This also improves the air flow through the bud area and reduces the potential for mold and/or mildew. I measure the RH at "skirt level" and at canopy level. Skirt is 54% and the canopy is 42%. I use a couple of directional fans for circulation and have not seen any signs of mold/mildew.
As far as "choking the canopy with tops" preventing lower growth development, these lower buds are fully developed to within 5" or 6" from ground level.
Less is more. Here are some numbers from my past two grows.
Panama photoperiod, 100% Sativa grown prior to adding additional side lighting.
Jack Herer auto, 70% Sativa with additional side lighting.
Here is a Panama cola when it was newly removed from the drying box. The average length of all colas was 8" with a 1 1/2 - 2" diameter. The goal is to harvest 100 of these.
All yields are weights taken following manicuring, an 8 - 10 day dry, a 14 - 16 day stabilization (daily in/out jars with Boveda), and nug removal from stems. Ready for long term storage/cure.
Strain Size Yield
Panama 24" x 36" x 24"h 411 grams (14.5 oz)
CST .537 sq. meters 740 grams / sq. meter
Training 6 sq. feet 68.5 grams / sq. foot
12 cubic feet 34.25 grams / cubic foot (important number for those of us growing in confined spaces)
Jack Herer 24" x 24" x 18"h 287 grams (10.12 oz)
.371 sq. meters 773 grams / sq. meter
Skirted CST 4 sq. feet 71.75 grams / sq. foot
Training 6 cubic feet 47.8 grams / cubic foot
It appears from the numbers (grams/ cubic foot) that your thoughts on opening up the canopy to increase the yield from lower sites are accurate. That was one of the main reasons for me going to a "skirted" training technique.
I would love to see comparative numbers from other grows and techniques. There is always room for improvement, and experimentation.
P.S. For those that don't train an auto, this would be a good harvest.
For those that want to spend the time, the rest of the picture ......
Ha! Well, that was a good read for sure. Thank you, that’s exactly the point. Trying different things I mean.
Man, school is very different for you guys in the south...
Btw - both the Panama and the Jack Herer are awesome.Let me first say that I really appreciate your desire to grow using different techniques every time. It keeps things interesting. I am from the same mold but don't have the space and don't know what I would do with the bounty.
As far as the "less is more" approach, I would like to offer some alternative concepts and some numbers for consideration and comparison.
As far as better air flow for less mold potential, I have some thoughts on that as well.
More nodes equals more buds, I agree 100%. My nodes are 1 - 1 1/2" apart.
Better air flow decreases the chance of mold, I agree 100%.
90% (or more) of the water being consumed by the plant is released into the air by the leaves, transpiration. My grows average 82* F and 43% RH so they go through a lot of water/solution, a couple of gallons per day. By removing the leaves in the "bud" area, I am removing a very large source of water vapor from the area around the buds. This also improves the air flow through the bud area and reduces the potential for mold and/or mildew. I measure the RH at "skirt level" and at canopy level. Skirt is 54% and the canopy is 42%. I use a couple of directional fans for circulation and have not seen any signs of mold/mildew.
As far as "choking the canopy with tops" preventing lower growth development, these lower buds are fully developed to within 5" or 6" from ground level.
Less is more. Here are some numbers from my past two grows.
Panama photoperiod, 100% Sativa grown prior to adding additional side lighting.
Jack Herer auto, 70% Sativa with additional side lighting.
Here is a Panama cola when it was newly removed from the drying box. The average length of all colas was 8" with a 1 1/2 - 2" diameter. The goal is to harvest 100 of these.
All yields are weights taken following manicuring, an 8 - 10 day dry, a 14 - 16 day stabilization (daily in/out jars with Boveda), and nug removal from stems. Ready for long term storage/cure.
Strain Size Yield
Panama................24" x 36" x 24"h...................411 grams (14.5 oz)
CST...................... .537 sq. meters....................740 grams / sq. meter
Training................6 sq. feet..............................68.5 grams / sq. foot
..............................12 cubic feet........................34.25 grams / cubic foot (important number for those of us growing in confined spaces)
Jack Herer..............24" x 24" x 18"h..................287 grams (10.12 oz)
............................ .371 sq. meters ..................773 grams / sq. meter
Skirted CST............4 sq. feet.............................71.75 grams / sq. foot
Training................6 cubic feet.........................47.8 grams / cubic foot
It appears from the numbers (grams/ cubic foot) that your thoughts on opening up the canopy to increase the yield from lower sites are accurate. That was one of the main reasons for me going to a "skirted" training technique.
I would love to see comparative numbers from other grows and techniques. There is always room for improvement, and experimentation.
P.S. For those that don't train an auto, this would be a good harvest.
For those that want to spend the time, the rest of the picture ......
Looking forward to your updates! You will love it!The @ViparSpectra light is in the house!
Thank you ViparSpectra!!
I’m in process of cleaning and prepping the tent for the light switch. In a few days when it’s ready to go I will begin the dedicated journal to highlight this light. It will begin with the unboxing of the light and the assembly. Can’t wait!!
Would it still be possible to snap a photo of the main tap root in the center of the root ball? I'm curious how far down the large diameter goes.Rootball Porn!!
Mac and Jack rootball. Heh.
@Hafta Cannabis Plants don't have a large main tap root per say, they do grow those large roots near the surface to help capture any condensation
I understand that the root system is not a typical tap root system. I should have described it as a "central system".@Hafta Cannabis Plants don't have a large main tap root per say, they do grow those large roots near the surface to help capture any condensation
here is an example
Wow,
Great pictorial Jon, thanks for showing off how you do it!
I'm confused. You said "The two inches of pot that are in the water are all perlite and hopefully by now some roots" so are you hoping the roots grow into the res before the plant runs dry? And do you top water after that as well?
Internodal spacing is awesome on the Watermelon WeddingCake. She didn’t fill it all the way but close.
Yes, I’m hoping the roots hit the res by flower. Yes I top off the res. I change it once a week.
I’ll see what I can do
Did you bury it at up-pot along the way?
No, it was strictly old school. I germinated it directly in an 18" tall raised bed. This "Polaroid" is of a single plant. It was about ten foot diameter and 5 - 6 foot above ground.
