Jon's Outdoor Winter Photoperiod Grow

[Jon]

Mac and Jack
Flower Day 7

 

[Jon]

Mac and Jack
Flower Day 7

I’m watching this one like a hawk. There is a TON of ambient light sources here. I don’t mean the stars and moon. As a result, I have one spot my photos can sit overnight. And I’m always scared of it. Is it dark enough? Etc. So now is when I watch close for balls. Goddamn I hope not.

 

[Evergreen89]

Hey @Chuckeye, @StoneOtter, @Rexer, @farside05 - have any of you ever by chance grown a straight Zkittlez auto? I have one that’s popped for the auto in the 3x3 and am wondering what I can expect from her in terms of veg days? That determines my training selection. Thanks so much!

I got a zkittles auto indoors though. Had few issues had ph lockout few weeks ago due to lack of time/water but looking to come down next week.

 

[Jon]

I got a zkittles auto indoors though. Had few issues had ph lockout few weeks ago due to lack of time/water but looking to come down next week.

Thanks! She’s gorgeous! Yeah I’ll grow it indoors in the 3x3. Autos outdoors are a waste imho. Hope I get buds that nice.

 

[Jon]

Stretch Day 8

No budlets yet. Taking her time.

 

[Jon]

Mac and Jack
Flower Day 9

And on the 9th day we have budlets! I have budlets and no balls. So far so good.

Stretch wasn’t bad at all on this one. Maybe she doubled, maybe not quite yet. But it appears to be basically finished. And wow is she healthy as an ox.

The last two pictures show what I used for pest control since I put her out. Now that we have budlets it’s done, but for 9 days this stuff has worked spectacularly well. No leaf miners, my only real threat. Normally I’d be cutting them out of leaves by now. Took a chance on a super easy to use product and it works for a change. Lol.

Cool. Buds. Time to start the show.

 

[Jon]

Mandarin Zkittlez
Veg

LeiLei continues to chug along. She can go to flower anytime, and will in a couple days. I want to let my two unintentional side branch toppings grow out some. One was my fault - I broke a branch training. The other was the plant growing so hard against the tether that it broke at the anchor point. (So really they were both my fault, lmao)…No matter. I wasn’t going to top any of the lower ring but it will be fine.

 

[Jon]

Tropicanna Banana
Barney’s Farm
Early Veg

Sorry for the blurple pic. This is next up in the tent after the LeiLei goes to flower. For now she’s in the bedroom starter rig. This purple picture - I use my first ever outdated blurple for starting seedlings. It pulled 256 watts when it was new. 120 10-watt red, blue and white LEDs. Lol. Still works great. Excellent old school @Maxsisun blurple. Perfect for seedlings.

 

[Jon]

Buds…Across the Water (water)
Buds…Across the sea…

Anyone remember that song?

 

[InTheShed]

LOL Wings!

 

[Jon]

LOL Wings!

Complete with what, a trombone solo? Some horn.

 

[Jon]

Morning @Bill284, how you be? Gorgeous photo in the POTM contest - I almost didn’t enter cuz of you, lol. Hey so remember we were discussing what happens to coco plants growing outdoors when it rains? Well, we have the asshole hurricane crossing the state today. No big deal here in the least - except perhaps for the Mac and Jack. She is currently in the overnight dark spot. This is close to the side of the house - close enough that the branches on the house side touch the wall. So there’s the eave/hangover from the roof above the plant which protects it from normal rain basically 100%. But this rain is everywhere, not just straight down, as the wind is crazy today. So it’s dark and I haven’t looked yet, but I know she’s soaking wet, and is going to be all day.

I have decided to not worry about it in the least. For one thing, there’s nothing I can do about it anyway. Lmao. That alone dictates my course of (non) action. Heh. But besides that, I figure what’s the harm? Isn’t it the same thing as if I fed her RO water with no feed for a day? Big fricking deal. She won’t even notice. It would take a few days before she began barking at me I believe. Certainly one day will hurt nothing.

Now the damn wind…….ugh.

Hope your day goes well Sensei.

 

[Bill284]

Morning @Bill284, how you be? Gorgeous photo in the POTM contest - I almost didn’t enter cuz of you, lol. Hey so remember we were discussing what happens to coco plants growing outdoors when it rains? Well, we have the asshole hurricane crossing the state today. No big deal here in the least - except perhaps for the Mac and Jack. She is currently in the overnight dark spot. This is close to the side of the house - close enough that the branches on the house side touch the wall. So there’s the eave/hangover from the roof above the plant which protects it from normal rain basically 100%. But this rain is everywhere, not just straight down, as the wind is crazy today. So it’s dark and I haven’t looked yet, but I know she’s soaking wet, and is going to be all day.

I have decided to not worry about it in the least. For one thing, there’s nothing I can do about it anyway. Lmao. That alone dictates my course of (non) action. Heh. But besides that, I figure what’s the harm? Isn’t it the same thing as if I fed her RO water with no feed for a day? Big fricking deal. She won’t even notice. It would take a few days before she began barking at me I believe. Certainly one day will hurt nothing.

Now the damn wind…….ugh.

Hope your day goes well Sensei.

That’s my concern, the wind.
Get them protected.
I ran coco all summer with out a ph pen.
I’m thinking the microbes and fungi feeding the roots aren’t concerned with ph.
I even snuck the garden hose in there a few times.
No issues at all.
Batten down the hatches and hold on tight.
You guys haven’t recovered from the last storm, dam.
Hope everything is ok my friend.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Jon]

That’s my concern, the wind.
Get them protected.
I ran coco all summer with out a ph pen.
I’m thinking the microbes and fungi feeding the roots aren’t concerned with ph.
I even snuck the garden hose in there a few times.
No issues at all.
Batten down the hatches and hold on tight.
You guys haven’t recovered from the last storm, dam.
Hope everything is ok my friend.




Stay safe
Bill284

Whoa. You fricking cheater. A garden hose? After you’ve pounded it into my head that you MUST ph to 5.8 every time for coco? I joke, but I’m noticing the same thing truth be told. Obviously the microbes don’t care, we established that growing in soil, plus @Emilya Green says so, so it must be true. Lmao. But beyond that - I haven’t ph’ed in a long time. I do it religiously when the plant just pops and is a seedling, but once she has two sets of leaves she gets the same treatment everyone else does - I’m close enough. I am thinking maybe the supposed “exact range/must be X” mindset is unnecessary. The range simply must be more expansive, simple logic tells you that. I highly doubt that rainwater ph is the same all over the world. Granted plants don’t naturally grow in coco, but what difference does that make? Just a medium, irrelevant to the feeding. Now I’m not prepared to simply feed them as if I were running soil and GeoFlora, but I am going to start to experiment a bit as we go forward. I see the word “easier” on the horizon in big letters.

 

[Bill284]

Whoa. You fricking cheater. A garden hose? After you’ve pounded it into my head that you MUST ph to 5.8 every time for coco? I joke, but I’m noticing the same thing truth be told. Obviously the microbes don’t care, we established that growing in soil, plus @Emilya Green says so, so it must be true. Lmao. But beyond that - I haven’t ph’ed in a long time. I do it religiously when the plant just pops and is a seedling, but once she has two sets of leaves she gets the same treatment everyone else does - I’m close enough. I am thinking maybe the supposed “exact range/must be X” mindset is unnecessary. The range simply must be more expansive, simple logic tells you that. I highly doubt that rainwater ph is the same all over the world. Granted plants don’t naturally grow in coco, but what difference does that make? Just a medium, irrelevant to the feeding. Now I’m not prepared to simply feed them as if I were running soil and GeoFlora, but I am going to start to experiment a bit as we go forward. I see the word “easier” on the horizon in big letters.

I was religious about 5.8 until this summer.
I figured I’d try it to see how long I could go without phing.
Guess what
Good luck Amigo, hope it’s not a bad storm.
Take care.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Jon]

I was religious about 5.8 until this summer.
I figured I’d try it to see how long I could go without phing.
Guess what
Good luck Amigo, hope it’s not a bad storm.
Take care.




Stay safe
Bill284

I just checked her. Where she sits, between our house and the neighbors on the side, there’s hardly any wind going on. It’s like a long thin corridor between the houses. Only about 15 feet wide (all the houses are close together). And there’s a lot of shrubbery and stuff in there to block wind. But basically, unless the wind is blowing exactly that way, it’s pretty wind free in there. She is absolutely fine. Sleeping soundly and hasn’t even gotten rained on. I don’t know how that’s possible but she’s dry. Cool!!

 

[Jon]

EXECUTIVE DECISION
Mac and Jack
Flower Day 10

The first outdoor plant of this outdoor grow just became an indoor plant. I made the decision to move her into the 3x3 to flower out. For one - the leaf miners were back, and although there wasn’t much damage it adds up, and I don’t want to fight that battle every day. Not with this girl. Something special about this one I’ve felt from the beginning, which I credit to the 1994 Jack Herer parent. Legendary JH cut. She’s just too pretty to lose. That risk will fall now to the Mandarin Zkittlez, who will go outside as soon as it’s sunny again. And for two (or “secondly” if you like) - just look how perfect the fit and timing are. Size wise she is done stretching, so this is basically it. Perfect height to allow me to run the 420h at 100%. Perfect width for the tent. And timing, she’s post stretch basically. All trimmed up and deflarfed. I need to do nothing now but keep her fed.

I think it was a good call. Plus we’ll get good, close pictures with no wind and no leaf miner damage. I sealed the AC for light and closed everything up tight. Here we go!

 

[Jon]

Mandarin Zkittlez
LeiLei
Veg

This plant is looking strong. Her stems are fantastic. Here I did some late training and opened her up down low, as well as some necessary defoliation. I forgot the joy of having as much time as you want with a plant. Yay photos! They always ruled anyway, and always will. They aren’t common gutter autoflowers. Who wastes their time with them?

 

[Jon]

Mandarin Zkittlez
LeiLei
Veg

This plant is looking strong. Her stems are fantastic. Here I did some late training and opened her up down low, as well as some necessary defoliation. I forgot the joy of having as much time as you want with a plant. Yay photos! They always ruled anyway, and always will. They aren’t common gutter autoflowers. Who wastes their time with them?

Big huge fan leaves become a pain in the ass after a while. Lol.

 

[Azimuth]

Ok, I'm in. Never got the notification.

Hopefully I'm on-board now. Looking like a great start as always @Jon . Always enjoy following your grows.