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Final Picture of Cocotown
Flower Day 75
Flower Day 75
Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower
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BubbaKush909
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Hey Jon! I've never done a wet trim, do you think it's easier than a dry trim? I like how the sugar leaves draw in and cover the buds a bit while drying. It looks like you trim them without chopping the plant?
That cola is awesome
That cola is awesome
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Hey BK, thanks! I don't actually wet trim too often. I prefer to dry trim. If the buds are especially dense I'll do it, if I'm worried about them holding too much water. And in this case, although I did a true wet trim on the buds I showed a few pictures of, the hanging buds are not wet trimmed. Nor is the cola you like (I do too, lol). They're just sugar leaf trimmed a bit closer than I normally would and have more underneath lower leaves trimmed off, almost like I finish trimmed the very bottoms. This was because of the bugs. It was the only way I was comfortable to feel as if I got them, and their damage. Also helps check for hidden mold or mold starting. I had no mold and no more bugs other than the pile I showed and a similar pile off the DSD. But I had to be as sure as I felt I could be. Also, both sets are very dense, even the DSD surprisingly, and I figured it couldn't hurt. Normally it takes around 7-8 days in my closets. I didn't want these to go 10, so I trimmed them what I thought was accordingly. There's still plenty of dried trim jail left on the branches, trust me. Lol.Hey Jon! I've never done a wet trim, do you think it's easier than a dry trim? I like how the sugar leaves draw in and cover the buds a bit while drying. It looks like you trim them without chopping the plant?
That cola is awesome
One of the advantages of wet trimming is if you like scissor/finger hash. It's a lock stock guarantee, in volume. Lol. Relatively speaking. Some think it's easier wet, some don't. I don't. I have to go way slower on wet trim. Also, I like being able to immediately kief the sugar leaf, rather than having to wait for a box top full to dry as I am now. I always, however, do finish trim on the vine one branch and hang it that way on purpose, just to compare drying rates and also have the first buds off it to smoke sooner, lol. I also get an early look at a finished bud that way.
That's about my take on it.
EDIT: Hey BK, forgot this - If it appeared I trim them before chopping, that's just because in anticipation of the harvest the next morning, and before I took the last picture of the whole plant, I removed all the large or medium fan leaves. That's why she looks so bare in the last picture.
Congrats on that harvest Jon!
You mean you're not keeping the buds that were near the bugs? If I did that I'd have no harvests ever! Also, keep a bottle of Safer Insect Killing Soap Spray handy and never harvest early again because of bugs. Chop and wash and keep it all.
My actual suggestion was to drop a seed on Christmas day (or 21st to be more precise) and let it grow outside from then on. For the record.
Yes, yes they are.
I'm going with aphids. Easy to kill, easy to wash off at harvest.
No longer relevant but definitely not going to reveg that fast. And 12/12 isn't until March 20th.
BubbaKush909
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I really have to adapt as the seasons change here. This whole grow was done in mid 30's RH. I've been hanging them for 2-3 days, then 2-3 days in bags then into the jars. In the summer it can be over 2 weeks before they're ready for the jars. For the first time ever I'm using R62 packs and I've been very impressed.
Congrats bro
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- Thanks!!!Congrats on that harvest Jon!
You mean you're not keeping the buds that were near the bugs? If I did that I'd have no harvests ever! Also, keep a bottle of Safer Insect Killing Soap Spray handy and never harvest early again because of bugs. Chop and wash and keep it all.
My actual suggestion was to drop a seed on Christmas day (or 21st to be more precise) and let it grow outside from then on. For the record.
Yes, yes they are.
I'm going with aphids. Easy to kill, easy to wash off at harvest.
No longer relevant but definitely not going to reveg that fast. And 12/12 isn't until March 20th.
- I didn't know I could save them. Had I known I'd have definitely done what you suggest. There were small buds that were trashed, they HAD to go, but you're right, there were many that weren't but just had these things on them. If I found more than one on a bud it went. What I have left is about 70% of the buds, and a shitload of high grade kief waiting to dry, cuz now that kief will be as much bud as it is leaf. Lol.
- Yeah, I was a little confused as to what ANY of our suggestions were after that conversation, sorry. Lol.
- As you said initially. Although I argued with you. Lol. Chalk this round up to Shed, and thanks.
- That was my thought. I guess I would have had to bring them in from outside, eh? Fricking aphids. Voracious little buggers. But good to know they're easily controlled. I won't be surprised next time and won't overreact next time.
- I was thinking it was Feb. 20 for some reason. !2/12 for real is further than I thought.
One question: I see many people saying Safers is only in veg and only for leaves, both sides. Not in flower and never spray on buds. Do you agree with this? And if so, what can one use once there's buds in the mix?
Gracias, Shed.
I think that's what is said about neem oil. That one, never in flower, at least once you get pistils. I think Safers, being a soap, is safe to use in flower. In fact, I think right up till harvest.
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Thanks Azi. Oh yeah, I think it was you saying not to use it on buds. The Neem I mean. Ok, sold, Safers it is from now on. Is this used as a preventative or only if you see bugs?
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CJS Apple Blossom
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45 day flower. Sure it is. Lol.
Flower Day 29
45 day flower. Sure it is. Lol.
Safer's is a true soap (not a detergent like Dawn Dishwashing Liquid and others like that). Soaps only work on contact. They work by dissolving the outer covering of the bugs, dehydrating them until they die.
From the company:
A Trusted Remedy Proven to Kill Harmful Insects
Insecticidal soap (otherwise known as potassium salts of fatty acids) is made with natural plant extracts that dehydrate and kill certain insects on contact. Soft-bodied insects like aphids and mealybugs are most effected by insecticidal soap, which works by weakening their bodies’ waxy coating and penetrating their cellular membranes causing them to dehydrate and die. Just mix and spray at the first signs of insects, and apply regularly when insects are present to keep your plants pest-free."
Here's what I posted on @Trala 's thread:
"You have to get the wet soap directly on the insect for it to work its magic. Even an insect landing on a freshly sprayed leaf won't be affected. So, give the wet stuff time to work on the little bastards you've managed to make contact with, but after it dries it has no insecticidal effect. All it does is clog the pores of the leaves which is why we then rinse it off with clean water.
So give it an hour or so, probably even less outside in the breeze, and give 'em a good rinse."
And according to the comapny it can be used right up until harvest.
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I just found a new definition for the word LOVE.
9 weeks cured Slurricane from my head stash jar topped with fresh overnight dried Dos Si Dos scissor hash.
This would be a one hit situation.
Whoa.
Perfect tent cleaning buzz.
9 weeks cured Slurricane from my head stash jar topped with fresh overnight dried Dos Si Dos scissor hash.
This would be a one hit situation.
Whoa.
Perfect tent cleaning buzz.
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Thanks Azi. Wanna hear something funny/not funny? Those damn bugs, me and Shed believe them to be aphids, freaked me out. When I saw them moving and massing in the scope I instantly started itching all over and my skin started crawling. Literally. It was the most disgusting thing ever. I don't EVER want to see it again, and this will help. But the funny/not funny part is, now I'm checking out my Apple Blossom, and every sugar leaf with frost on it has me practically scoping it to make sure it's aphid free. Lol. Gonna take me a few days to get those images out of my head. UGH to the extreme, and I'm not even particularly squeamish. I felt like I was in Storm Troopers fighting those giant bugs.
Thanks Azi. Wanna hear something funny/not funny? Those damn bugs, me and Shed believe them to be aphids, freaked me out. When I saw them moving and massing in the scope I instantly started itching all over and my skin started crawling. Literally. It was the most disgusting thing ever. I don't EVER want to see it again, and this will help. But the funny/not funny part is, now I'm checking out my Apple Blossom, and every sugar leaf with frost on it has me practically scoping it to make sure it's aphid free. Lol. Gonna take me a few days to get those images out of my head. UGH to the extreme, and I'm not even particularly squeamish. I felt like I was in Storm Troopers fighting those giant bugs.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I get thrips and treat them with some of my KNF concoctions. Even after I don't see any more for a while I still don't believe it!
According o the Safer's bottle, they specifically say it works on aphids so it would be a good tool to have on hand.
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I'm all over it. Today. And thanks.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I get thrips and treat them with some of my KNF concoctions. Even after I don't see any more for a while I still don't believe it!
According o the Safer's bottle, they specifically say it works on aphids so it would be a good tool to have on hand.
Still digging that Apple Blossom. One of my fave plants on the whole site at the moment!
This is only an exhibition, not a competition.
Azi's gotchu! ↓
Either way. If you do Integrated Pest Management (IPM) you would use it weekly as a preventative. If you don't have pests on the regular, then use it to kill them when you see them. And as Azi mentioned:
I try to spray mine in the shade to prevent the pistils from browning in the sun (or just before lights out inside...you can rinse them in the morning in that case).
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Here's a couple wet trimmed Dos Si Dos buds and a closeup of the interior for your Thursday viewing pleasure. Note the lack of aphids. Lol.
Could put an eye out with that kid!
Do you give lessons.Here's a couple wet trimmed Dos Si Dos buds and a closeup of the interior for your Thursday viewing pleasure. Note the lack of aphids. Lol.
Excellent work on the trim.
Well the whole grow really.
Stay safe
Bill
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Thanks Bill. I'll take credit for the trim. The grow is all you.Do you give lessons.
Excellent work on the trim.
Well the whole grow really.
Stay safe
Bill