Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

[Jon]

Sunday Night Photos
DSD2 and DSD3
Trichomes and Bud Compare
Day 63

I see the same thing in both cases. I see trichomes that say "you can harvest me now," and I see buds that say "we need a couple more days." I'm deferring to what the buds say. The last picture is a shot of a Blueberry coco photoperiod bud on day 23 of flower, inserted into this post at random, lol.

1-2: Dos Si Dos #2 bud and trichomes
3-4: DSD #3 bud and trichomes
5: Random Blueberry Coco bud on day 23 of flower

 

[Moony]

Sunday Night Photos
DSD2 and DSD3
Trichomes and Bud Compare
Day 63

I see the same thing in both cases. I see trichomes that say "you can harvest me now," and I see buds that say "we need a couple more days." I'm deferring to what the buds say. The last picture is a shot of a Blueberry coco photoperiod bud on day 23 of flower, inserted into this post at random, lol.

1-2: Dos Si Dos #2 bud and trichomes
3-4: DSD #3 bud and trichomes
5: Random Blueberry Coco bud on day 23 of flower

I was about to say that bottom photo doesn't look 2 or 3 days away... Then I learned to read haha. Bet you can't wait for the dos-si-dos Mr Jon! Mine is only 5 days into flower and the essence of terpines is already getting me excited hehe

 

[Rexer]

She's definitely not done yet, but she looks frosty.

 

[Jon]

I was about to say that bottom photo doesn't look 2 or 3 days away... Then I learned to read haha. Bet you can't wait for the dos-si-dos Mr Jon! Mine is only 5 days into flower and the essence of terpines is already getting me excited hehe

The indica pheno that's already in the jar as of yesterday tastes already like some sort of sweet, citrusy candy. Unfortunately that one had some bud rot and I lost at least one entire colas worth of buds. I also had to literally cut every bud down to it's smallest increment in order to cut out all the fledgling bud rot. There were many spots where it was just starting with those annoying red lines inside that show before it gets real bad. Still gotta cut them out, so as a result it dried too fast, and even with that it already tastes good for uncured weed. The other two I have along with the Gorilla Zkittlez (the outdoor autos, plus a photo of one in the tent who is 7 feet tall) got the massive mold mitigation treatment once that happened, and for their budding lives they have each had a dedicated fan at the base of each plant blowing up through, plus my two largest and most powerful fans coming at them from each side. I have watched the buds religiously since the indica pheno went the way it did and I will say confidently that at this moment the buds have no bud rot and are perfect. They're also sativa pheno buds, so they're individually much smaller than the other pheno. Just as dense and same colors and all, but a lot smaller. Should still yield big, as the colas are bud laden top to bottom and every bud has gotten tons of light. I pulled almost four ounces off the first one even with the loss, and the flarf is minimal on this strain, even the lower buds, albeit small, get dense and legit. I expect about the same from the other two. I'll take a QP of finished bud per auto any day of the week in soil. Wait til the new 3x3 arrives and we find out how an auto in a 7 of coco with Bill's soil recipe and a dedicated NextLight 420h just for her does. Betcha she fills my tent. I love autos, and as you learn to make them yield better and better you realize the magic and upsides of them. You're psyched for the DSDs, man, and yeah, they stink alright. Heh. I love stink. I find them to be less outwardly frosty than a lot of other strains, but they are absolutely packed with trichs on the inside, if that makes sense. The Gelato was much like that too. Didn't look super frosty like the GZ or the Strawberry Bananas on the outside, but man is it strong and stinky. You'll see what I mean now that you have the scope!!! I can't wait to see your buds, and I can't wait to see your reaction when you see the incredible density you're gonna get.

 

[StoneOtter]

Let's hear it for strong and stinky!

 

[Jon]

Hey @Bill284, it's the dreaded Fox Farms Sledgehammer flush day. I say dreaded because yesterday I checked out the Sledgehammer in detail. I have to use it. And I have to Ph each gallon to 5.8. Lmao. It's gonna take forever. I mean forever. All day. The plants ain't moving out of the tent so it's one plant and one gallon at a time. At least since they're only in threes I can get away with a 10 gallon flush. Lol. But that still means many back and forths with a loud and annoying ShopVac, as they'll start running off as soon as the first gallon is done. Oh, I can't wait to start. Lmao.

So the Sledgehammer is basically just saponin in a plant based medium. Saponin has many benefits to the plant other than just helping to dredge out salts from the soil. Based on several articles I read yesterday, a lot of people use it on plants of all kinds, and it's almost universally beneficial. So I'll take the hours of work for it.

 

[Bill284]

Hey @Bill284, it's the dreaded Fox Farms Sledgehammer flush day. I say dreaded because yesterday I checked out the Sledgehammer in detail. I have to use it. And I have to Ph each gallon to 5.8. Lmao. It's gonna take forever. I mean forever. All day. The plants ain't moving out of the tent so it's one plant and one gallon at a time. At least since they're only in threes I can get away with a 10 gallon flush. Lol. But that still means many back and forths with a loud and annoying ShopVac, as they'll start running off as soon as the first gallon is done. Oh, I can't wait to start. Lmao.

So the Sledgehammer is basically just saponin in a plant based medium. Saponin has many benefits to the plant other than just helping to dredge out salts from the soil. Based on several articles I read yesterday, a lot of people use it on plants of all kinds, and it's almost universally beneficial. So I'll take the hours of work for it.

Good morning Jon.
I don't envy the task ahead.
I don't use that line of nutrients so I've never had that issue.
Next run use GF or RX and you won't have any problems.
It kinda defeats all the work of watering to run off every feken day.
If you you have to flush the dam pots anyway.
Sorry Amigo.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Hey @Bill284, it's the dreaded Fox Farms Sledgehammer flush day. I say dreaded because yesterday I checked out the Sledgehammer in detail. I have to use it. And I have to Ph each gallon to 5.8. Lmao. It's gonna take forever. I mean forever. All day. The plants ain't moving out of the tent so it's one plant and one gallon at a time. At least since they're only in threes I can get away with a 10 gallon flush. Lol. But that still means many back and forths with a loud and annoying ShopVac, as they'll start running off as soon as the first gallon is done. Oh, I can't wait to start. Lmao.

So the Sledgehammer is basically just saponin in a plant based medium. Saponin has many benefits to the plant other than just helping to dredge out salts from the soil. Based on several articles I read yesterday, a lot of people use it on plants of all kinds, and it's almost universally beneficial. So I'll take the hours of work for it.

Are you a closet masochist?

 

[Jon]

Are you a closet masochist?

Heh. Maybe so. But if you're gonna' run with the big dogs, you can't piss like a puppy.

 

[Jon]

CJS Apple Blossom
Veg Day 38
Up Potted to Final Home
Beginning of Training

Up potting went off without a hitch on day 37, and she also got her first training session a few days before that. She's humming right along. CJS AB is on week four of the @Prescription Blend nutrient feed chart, where she will stay until I flip her. The plant seems to be loving the nutes. Her green is great, her growth rate is great and nice and consistent, she's altogether healthy and blemish free, and she hasn't even a burnt tip. I have nothing but good to say so far about the nutes.

So here's how she looks from overhead on day 38 of veg.

EDIT: Thanks and an assist to @InTheShed for displaying the technique of pinning the colas to the large fan leaves right below them for the topped colas - I took that and ran with it. Sweet, Shed.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

CJS Apple Blossom
Veg Day 38
Up Potted to Final Home
Beginning of Training

Up potting went off without a hitch on day 37, and she also got her first training session a few days before that. She's humming right along. CJS AB is on week four of the @Prescription Blend nutrient feed chart, where she will stay until I flip her. The plant seems to be loving the nutes. Her green is great, her growth rate is great and nice and consistent, she's altogether healthy and blemish free, and she hasn't even a burnt tip. I have nothing but good to say so far about the nutes.

So here's how she looks from overhead on day 38 of veg.

EDIT: Thanks and an assist to @InTheShed for displaying the technique of pinning the colas to the large fan leaves right below them for the topped colas - I took that and ran with it. Sweet, Shed.

Looking good Jon!

 

[Jon]

Hi @Emilya, I have a Fox Farms question for you if you have a minute or two. Part of the middle part of the feed chart includes the only foliar spray, the Flower Kiss. No problem, except now I'm at the point where the feed chart is still calling for it (I just fed the first week 8 feed today), but it is now impossible to spray only the leaves. If I continue to use it at this point, I will be spraying the buds. I don't know that I'm all that comfortable with that. Would you have any thoughts on this?

Edit: I know the obvious solution to this is to go REALLY slow, target each leaf, and basically spray them one at a time on both sides without spraying the buds. But that ain't gonna happen. Even my patience has limits. Lol.

 

[Jon]

Outdoor Autos
Day 65

Here's an attempt at getting a single branch photo from each plant (without moving them). All three of these girls should be reasonably productive. The GZ branch is the second lowest branch on the plant.

1. Gorilla Zkittlez
2. Dos Si Dos #2
3. DSD #3

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Outdoor Autos
Day 65

Here's an attempt at getting a single branch photo from each plant (without moving them). All three of these girls should be reasonably productive. The GZ branch is the second lowest branch on the plant.

1. Gorilla Zkittlez
2. Dos Si Dos #2
3. DSD #3

Those are some big buds there my friend!

 

[Jon]

Two Headed Blueberry Coco Bud Update
(lol)
Flower Day 25

Well, she does not appear to be a two headed bud after all. Maybe she was headed that way, but she took a turn, and now she's a golf ball. And a pretty doggone frosty one at that for only day 25 of flower. Check her out now. This plant is crazy, I don't know what the hell it's going to do. Even as the only topped plant of the three she grew to be the tallest. I know BB has a reputation for getting tall and frosty, but jeez....

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Two Headed Blueberry Coco Bud Update
(lol)
Flower Day 25

Well, she does not appear to be a two headed bud after all. Maybe she was headed that way, but she took a turn, and now she's a golf ball. And a pretty doggone frosty one at that for only day 25 of flower. Check her out now. This plant is crazy, I don't know what the hell it's going to do. Even as the only topped plant of the three she grew to be the tallest. I know BB has a reputation for getting tall and frosty, but jeez....

Wow - thats one thick bud! You’re right; it does look like a golf ball at the top *lol*

 

[Jon]

Gorilla Zkittlez
Day 66
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Getting excited about this one. My only plant of her. Should have gone with three. I love this strain. Super sweet, super fruity, very Runtz-ish to me - also very frosty with dense buds. Big yielder, can't wait to see what she gives me from living in the seven. In theory it should make a difference vs the same everything in a five or a three. We'll see. Pretty sure I've proven to myself that an auto can fill a seven in soil with roots all the way to capacity. I'll show you the balls when we're done.

Here's two buds and three trichome shots. We're basically all white and beginning to see amber here and there. She's ready whenever I tell her she's ready.

Enjoy. Happy Hump Day.

 

[Jon]

Root Porn/Harvest Pics
Dos Si Dos #2

I took DSD #2 last night. Interestingly, I found a few seeds in the very lowest, flarfiest buds. Nowhere else apparently unless they're WAY inside. Second time I've had an auto make a few seeds on the very bottomest, flarfiest buds only on a plant. Completely different conditions in every possible way this time compared to the first time it happened too. Hmmm....First time was the Sour Apple that grew into one big cola only pretty much - she had nine seeds, one of which grew into the gorgeous Sour Apple I entered in BOTM last month. This DSD had six. They aren't quite mature, but not white, flattish hermie seeds...fully formed, almost the correct dark and hardness, maybe a few even plantable, seeds. Kind of cool. Anyway, I overshowed this plant like crazy, so I went a different route with the harvest pictures.

Here's pictures of what was left after chopping her. Shows you the root, and you can derive the root ball from there, it isn't coming out right now without a lot of work, lol. It is as if the root and the circular pot shaped disc it's in is one thing the ball is so solid. It's very difficult to get the tines of the moisture meter to the bottom of the pot. The picture with my hand is for perspective. I dig the bark forming at the very base of the root.

What I hung is heavy. The Dos Si Dos is well hung, lmao. I checked religiously for both seeds and bud rot after finding those couple seeds. It does indeed seem confined to those couple little flarfy buds. I didn't find any sign of bud rot and I pulled the buds apart pretty well to look inside. No annoying overly dark red straight lines and overly white insides. No mold, no odd discolorations. No brown leaves that shouldn't be brown, no odd curling, no red hairs that are way too red compared to the others. I believe quadrupling the moving air after the first DSD had mold made all the difference in the world. Even though this was a sativa pheno, it's buds are every bit as dense as the indica one that had some mold. So hopefully we're good.

So enjoy this soil version of root porn. Lol.

 

[Bill284]

Root Porn/Harvest Pics
Dos Si Dos #2

I took DSD #2 last night. Interestingly, I found a few seeds in the very lowest, flarfiest buds. Nowhere else apparently unless they're WAY inside. Second time I've had an auto make a few seeds on the very bottomest, flarfiest buds only on a plant. Completely different conditions in every possible way this time compared to the first time it happened too. Hmmm....First time was the Sour Apple that grew into one big cola only pretty much - she had nine seeds, one of which grew into the gorgeous Sour Apple I entered in BOTM last month. This DSD had six. They aren't quite mature, but not white, flattish hermie seeds...fully formed, almost the correct dark and hardness, maybe a few even plantable, seeds. Kind of cool. Anyway, I overshowed this plant like crazy, so I went a different route with the harvest pictures.

Here's pictures of what was left after chopping her. Shows you the root, and you can derive the root ball from there, it isn't coming out right now without a lot of work, lol. It is as if the root and the circular pot shaped disc it's in is one thing the ball is so solid. It's very difficult to get the tines of the moisture meter to the bottom of the pot. The picture with my hand is for perspective. I dig the bark forming at the very base of the root.

What I hung is heavy. The Dos Si Dos is well hung, lmao. I checked religiously for both seeds and bud rot after finding those couple seeds. It does indeed seem confined to those couple little flarfy buds. I didn't find any sign of bud rot and I pulled the buds apart pretty well to look inside. No annoying overly dark red straight lines and overly white insides. No mold, no odd discolorations. No brown leaves that shouldn't be brown, no odd curling, no red hairs that are way too red compared to the others. I believe quadrupling the moving air after the first DSD had mold made all the difference in the world. Even though this was a sativa pheno, it's buds are every bit as dense as the indica one that had some mold. So hopefully we're good.

So enjoy this soil version of root porn. Lol.

Hey Mucker hope everything is going good for you today.
Congratulations on going back to trim jail.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Hey Mucker hope everything is going good for you today.
Congratulations on going back to trim jail.

Stay safe
Bill

Hey Bill! Yeah we're all good here bud. I have an update shot for you later. The Sledgehammer flush appears to have agreed with the plants. They seem to be having a growth spurt. Again. All are still getting a gallon every day. Coco tears through the nutes, at least if you're using Fox Farms it does. I've already had to order more of two ingredients. Jeez... Anyway, the buds are growing very quickly, and they have really long pistils reaching to the sky everywhere. Light and environment is dialed in. I hooked up the second AC unit today to control humidity. By running the second unit on low cool and the primary unit on high, we keep the Rh in the mid 40s and down as low as 37% (my current low so far). Works pretty well.

Also, my new 3x3 arrives and gets set up today with the NextLight 420h and my fan/filter setup. The Apple Blossom is going to live it's LED/veg life the rest of the time until the flip in the 3x3 as soon as the autos harvest in a day or two, and the outdoor rig will be history. Both the rig and the @Mars Hydro FC-E6500 served me well, I'll post a eulogy. Lol. At the same time we'll have the Watermelon Weddingcake Double XL auto started in a one gallon pot of your soil blend, also in the tent next to the Apple Blossom. When the auto is ready to up pot to the seven of your soil blend, I will then flip the Apple Blossom at which point it will go live outside by itself in the dark spot by night and the lennai in the sun by day to flower outside. Then the WWC Double XL will have the 3x3 to itself and once again we will all be contained in the garage. The outdoor part of the grow will be no longer. That was fun as hell and an amazing learning experience.

So that's about where we are. Today I'm doing the update for you on the coco girls post, and a finish out the other journal goodbye and thanks post, and I'll actually and finally be down to one journal. My life keeps getting easier and easier, which is fine I'm ready to rest on my pile of weed and take a month or two off while I get ready to move and plan the new space. Can't wait to scout out my spot for our monster outdoor grow this spring.

Hope all is well with you and you are preparing for a happy new year. 2021 ain't that hard to beat in my opinion. I had two friends die, one from suicide, and several have their lives turned upside down by Covid related stuff, and I suffered a couple serious burns that are just now healing up finally after several months, and that would only all be the tip of the damn iceberg. So yeah, let's have a better year than we did last year. Neither of us had a banner 2021.