It's info from Royal Queen Seeds Blog. I've found it pretty accurate. Sprouts I'll keep around 7-10k. Once they get true leaves, 15k,. A couple nodes, 30k, 4-6 nodes, 50k, blooming 55-60k. Much over that and I'll see bleaching.
Jon's Dedicated Fruity Pebble Cookies Grow Plus The Mystery Plant
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It's info from Royal Queen Seeds Blog. I've found it pretty accurate. Sprouts I'll keep around 7-10k. Once they get true leaves, 15k,. A couple nodes, 30k, 4-6 nodes, 50k, blooming 55-60k. Much over that and I'll see bleaching.
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Lmao. Nope. Heh. I was thinking there might be people who read journals but never comment, as I did when I first joined up. Maybe someone newer than me, I think there's a couple.You looking at me?
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Cool. By the same token I go sprout, 200-400 ppfd, true leaves to mid veg, up to 600, late veg to flip up to 900, flip to mid flower up to 1200, late flower I've gone as high as 1350 on a Jelly Rancher a few grows back.
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After seeing how amazingly well @West Hippie has done with his Perfect Sun I have me eyeing one of them for my next light purchase. Lots of things I love there, power, control, American made, a sponsor product, etc. The specs on it are comparable to my good light, but it's made a little better it appears. More solid. More options. A little more power. And I love the look of it.
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ELORA
Flower Day 6
Through six days of stretch we've managed to keep Elora's canopy in pretty good shape for a canopy that is a little more than 3' in diameter and taller than the top of my head sitting in my wheelchair. This picture managed to capture the entirety of her canopy with hardly any overlap except for a tiny bit of the Mystery Plant showing, which is easily looked past. As much trepidation as I had with the size of these plants, having never tried to go this big (this stretches my personal limits a bit as a handicapped person, that was kinda one of the points....) - I'm actually finding it's EASIER than making smaller plants like I usually do, a la the Slurricane from the last grow, for example. Here's a fledgling list of what I have found easier:
- More space to water makes it much easier, especially growing in coco with frequent, I mean constant, watering.
- Also more space to see and remove flarf from the undercarriage and take care of all that, again much easier.
- Much easier to move and shape longer stems....longer gives you more flexibility on many directional levels.
- As I can't use a screen and must do LST with sticks and stakes, the larger plant allows me to use actual bamboo instead of the little skewers, and in whatever length I need. It is easy to use a long bamboo stake between two colas to position more than one at a time, I simply use longer lengths of twist tie with occasional tweaks to maybe keep the pressure from the tie going a certain way. This greatly reduces the number of sticks in the pot, which is good for the roots and good for ease of watering.
- Canopy work is easier because for the most part I'm only dealing with branches that come up from below, versus a bunch of side branching that I pulled off branches like these to fill in a canopy. All the stems are long, and that simply makes it way easier to manipulate them. An added benefit here is that as a result of doing it this way the constant leaf removal and frequent "min-defoliation" related stuff you have to do is greatly reduced and it allows you to keep many more fan leaves with no fear of blocking air or light.
- With long stems and fewer colas (this plant has 20-something depending on what you count) it is much easier to deal with space issues between the buds, which has the added benefit of mitigating fear related to bud rot. I have no such concerns with this plant or her sister. The air from underneath I provide just flows through the plant so freely it would be unlikely, and part of that is the longer stems with longer space cleared underneath, thus providing less air resistance than the "other" way I usually train.
- There is zero question whatsoever that these buds are going to be WAY bigger than my usual buds, it would literally be impossible for that not to be true at this point (okay, this isn't easier, just BETTER).
- One more that's not easier, just one I really really dig - gigantic canopies are absolutely beyond gorgeous.
I would have to say with high confidence that my days of smaller plants are over except when required. Why go small when I can big? I have a "one plant in a 10 or 15 to fill the 5x5 grow" in me soon, I can tell. I'm having way too much fun with this.
Here is the picture, and there are plenty of reference points in the pic, such as the middle seam/closure of the main tent door (2.5 feet, ie, half the 5x5) and whatever the height of the bottom seam on the viewing window is, as well as the corner of the tent.
Enjoy.
Flower Day 6
Through six days of stretch we've managed to keep Elora's canopy in pretty good shape for a canopy that is a little more than 3' in diameter and taller than the top of my head sitting in my wheelchair. This picture managed to capture the entirety of her canopy with hardly any overlap except for a tiny bit of the Mystery Plant showing, which is easily looked past. As much trepidation as I had with the size of these plants, having never tried to go this big (this stretches my personal limits a bit as a handicapped person, that was kinda one of the points....) - I'm actually finding it's EASIER than making smaller plants like I usually do, a la the Slurricane from the last grow, for example. Here's a fledgling list of what I have found easier:
- More space to water makes it much easier, especially growing in coco with frequent, I mean constant, watering.
- Also more space to see and remove flarf from the undercarriage and take care of all that, again much easier.
- Much easier to move and shape longer stems....longer gives you more flexibility on many directional levels.
- As I can't use a screen and must do LST with sticks and stakes, the larger plant allows me to use actual bamboo instead of the little skewers, and in whatever length I need. It is easy to use a long bamboo stake between two colas to position more than one at a time, I simply use longer lengths of twist tie with occasional tweaks to maybe keep the pressure from the tie going a certain way. This greatly reduces the number of sticks in the pot, which is good for the roots and good for ease of watering.
- Canopy work is easier because for the most part I'm only dealing with branches that come up from below, versus a bunch of side branching that I pulled off branches like these to fill in a canopy. All the stems are long, and that simply makes it way easier to manipulate them. An added benefit here is that as a result of doing it this way the constant leaf removal and frequent "min-defoliation" related stuff you have to do is greatly reduced and it allows you to keep many more fan leaves with no fear of blocking air or light.
- With long stems and fewer colas (this plant has 20-something depending on what you count) it is much easier to deal with space issues between the buds, which has the added benefit of mitigating fear related to bud rot. I have no such concerns with this plant or her sister. The air from underneath I provide just flows through the plant so freely it would be unlikely, and part of that is the longer stems with longer space cleared underneath, thus providing less air resistance than the "other" way I usually train.
- There is zero question whatsoever that these buds are going to be WAY bigger than my usual buds, it would literally be impossible for that not to be true at this point (okay, this isn't easier, just BETTER).
- One more that's not easier, just one I really really dig - gigantic canopies are absolutely beyond gorgeous.
I would have to say with high confidence that my days of smaller plants are over except when required. Why go small when I can big? I have a "one plant in a 10 or 15 to fill the 5x5 grow" in me soon, I can tell. I'm having way too much fun with this.
Here is the picture, and there are plenty of reference points in the pic, such as the middle seam/closure of the main tent door (2.5 feet, ie, half the 5x5) and whatever the height of the bottom seam on the viewing window is, as well as the corner of the tent.
Enjoy.
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WHOA out of Nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May Want to Sit Down for this One
Today must be my lucky day. My buddy Gonzy texted me earlier today and said he had something he wanted me to see and potentially trade. I occasionally get such messages from various people, as I specifically ask for it. I am always happier with more choice, and happy to trade too, in fact I'd love to. And of course as an asshole, I am always skeptical. But in two years here not one time has someone brought something off the street here that was worth me trading my weed with them. Not surprising I guess, I don't really have a pulse on the street scene down here other than this. It's happened maybe four or five times.
Well, a few minutes ago that finally changed.
Gonzy came by here with the most gorgeous street weed I've seen in Florida the entire time I've been here. I was shocked. KUSH MINTS. Never tried it and have considered growing it a couple times. Seemed like something I'd like.
It is.
Not only that, it was grown by someone who knew what the hell they were doing. i would be extremely happy to show you guys buds I grew like this, any grow, any time. My jaw is still on the floor.
Don't worry, it's worth that buildup (as if any of you read first, lol).
Here's what it looks like, the Florida Street Weed KUSH MINTS:
May Want to Sit Down for this One
Today must be my lucky day. My buddy Gonzy texted me earlier today and said he had something he wanted me to see and potentially trade. I occasionally get such messages from various people, as I specifically ask for it. I am always happier with more choice, and happy to trade too, in fact I'd love to. And of course as an asshole, I am always skeptical. But in two years here not one time has someone brought something off the street here that was worth me trading my weed with them. Not surprising I guess, I don't really have a pulse on the street scene down here other than this. It's happened maybe four or five times.
Well, a few minutes ago that finally changed.
Gonzy came by here with the most gorgeous street weed I've seen in Florida the entire time I've been here. I was shocked. KUSH MINTS. Never tried it and have considered growing it a couple times. Seemed like something I'd like.
It is.
Not only that, it was grown by someone who knew what the hell they were doing. i would be extremely happy to show you guys buds I grew like this, any grow, any time. My jaw is still on the floor.
Don't worry, it's worth that buildup (as if any of you read first, lol).
Here's what it looks like, the Florida Street Weed KUSH MINTS:
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I Thought it was Saturday...
As I was checking out that Kush Mints I was yelling at Titan through the closed tent that she better fricking PRAY her buds turn out this sweetly.
I love an obedient plant.
As I was checking out that Kush Mints I was yelling at Titan through the closed tent that she better fricking PRAY her buds turn out this sweetly.
I love an obedient plant.
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Titan
Maintenance
I had to up my lower fan game significantly this morning. This girl just bushes back up so quickly it's insane. Here's a picture showing the significant lower fan game, and then one to show you how damn bushy she already got since defol when she was so nice and open. Note the geopot in the fan picture covering the lower part of the pot on that side. That is the side the AC unit blows into. It's colder right there than anywhere else in the tent or on the plant. I don't want half my root ball to be measurably colder than the other side. So this is my mitigation attempt.
Maintenance
I had to up my lower fan game significantly this morning. This girl just bushes back up so quickly it's insane. Here's a picture showing the significant lower fan game, and then one to show you how damn bushy she already got since defol when she was so nice and open. Note the geopot in the fan picture covering the lower part of the pot on that side. That is the side the AC unit blows into. It's colder right there than anywhere else in the tent or on the plant. I don't want half my root ball to be measurably colder than the other side. So this is my mitigation attempt.
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Group Autoflower Garden Update
Titan Defoliation Day 48
Jack Herer Auto Day 32
Zkittlez Auto Day 32
Mostly Photographs
First up is the Zkittlez, who is beginning to show budlets.
Next is our Jack Herer. It's day 32. Still no sign of flowering whatsoever, I can't find a single pistil or hair. I'm starting to wonder if a Jack photo seed accidentally got put into my Jack auto seed bag. Wouldn't that be sweet? If she's not showing flower by day 40 (should be way sooner) she's a photo I believe. I'm surprised to see nothing still now.
All is well with them. Then we went ahead and did the required defoliation on Titan. I've given up on trying to get a good picture of her all at once. This is her left side post defoliation.
This is the right side post defoliation.
And here's a closeup on a growing bud, where if you look closely you can see she is finally beginning to generate frost. Pretty late, or at least it feels that way. Nice, thick, healthy and glowing white pistils make me smile.
Titan Defoliation Day 48
Jack Herer Auto Day 32
Zkittlez Auto Day 32
Mostly Photographs
First up is the Zkittlez, who is beginning to show budlets.
Next is our Jack Herer. It's day 32. Still no sign of flowering whatsoever, I can't find a single pistil or hair. I'm starting to wonder if a Jack photo seed accidentally got put into my Jack auto seed bag. Wouldn't that be sweet? If she's not showing flower by day 40 (should be way sooner) she's a photo I believe. I'm surprised to see nothing still now.
All is well with them. Then we went ahead and did the required defoliation on Titan. I've given up on trying to get a good picture of her all at once. This is her left side post defoliation.
This is the right side post defoliation.
And here's a closeup on a growing bud, where if you look closely you can see she is finally beginning to generate frost. Pretty late, or at least it feels that way. Nice, thick, healthy and glowing white pistils make me smile.
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Garden on April 24th
Garden canopy left:
Garden canopy right:
It's too much for a frame, but fyi, every bit of space except for where the fan is is completely covered by these three plants.
Garden canopy left:
Garden canopy right:
It's too much for a frame, but fyi, every bit of space except for where the fan is is completely covered by these three plants.
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Spent Soil Plant
Note how we already see the three pointed leaf set followed by a five pointer followed by a three pointer and now emerging a five pointer. Alternating nodes between 3leaves and 5leaves. The only plant I've had do that is the Mystery Plant. Not only is this girl from the same soil pile, it's logical based on what I know I tossed in there and when to assume it's the same strain as the Mystery girl.
That would make this another Strawberry Pineapple Upside Down Banana Cake, or Spud Bud.
Note how we already see the three pointed leaf set followed by a five pointer followed by a three pointer and now emerging a five pointer. Alternating nodes between 3leaves and 5leaves. The only plant I've had do that is the Mystery Plant. Not only is this girl from the same soil pile, it's logical based on what I know I tossed in there and when to assume it's the same strain as the Mystery girl.
That would make this another Strawberry Pineapple Upside Down Banana Cake, or Spud Bud.
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Bonus Sunday Bud Porn
Here's a closeup to show how the main two colas on Titan are stacking so far.
Here's a closeup to show how the main two colas on Titan are stacking so far.
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I can't take the credit, and I'll be damned if I can remember the person to whom I'm attempting to give the credit. Dumb stoner. It was coined just today too, talk about short term memory loss. I believe it was @farside05 who should get the credit for Spud Bud. Is that right fs? It's a fabulous name for a strain.At first I was like "Is that the best name he could come up with?"
But then you redeemed yourself...
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F-CK.Yeah, could have been @farside05
Sorry @Azimuth!!!
AZIMUTH COINED THE NAME SPUD BUD FOR THE MYSTERY PLANT EVERYBODY!!!!!!!
Would you accept combination bong hits of Kush Mints and Apple Blossom for breakfast as an excuse?
There's me and I am finding the light science way over my head lol! I will post in my journal and ask for advice. I have a DIY light that a friend gave me and I am trying to figure out what to do with it. It is has two settings... on, and off.
I have taken photos of the information on the light in the hope that someone here can advise me. I have hung it in my living room above my dining table at the window and it is fastened to the burglar bars, so it is difficult to raise or lower.
I have a small table that I have put on top of the main table to create a vegging space for my young plants. That distance is about 24 inches from the light to the surface of the table. I don't want to clutter your thread with my photos Jon. If I post them in my new journal would you mind taking a look and tell me what you think?
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Hey @Carmen Ray, thanks for the post! I am always more than willing to help if I am capable of it, and yes, of course I'll give you my two cents. You can post your pics here too if you like, I don't at all mind. It helps everyone learn and that's really the main point of the entire site imho. Certainly my first reason for being here. Besides, I show my plants WAY too often anyway, the few who stop in here would probably appreciate it. Whatever you like man, just tag me in the post so I don't miss it, okay? Thanks!
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Spud Bud
Major Overhaul
Okay @Azimuth, check out our latest venture into unknown territory with the Spud Bud plant.
First picture shows you what we're working with after my intervention. Lol. You can see the pile in the background on the floor of what I took. I can't stop laughing.
Second picture is a Spud canopy shot.
Last picture is a bonus shot of all of Elora's canopy, since I had Spud out of the tent and had the space to get her all in one frame. Small picture, but that's what she's got.
Focusing the energy upwards on Spud and removing bullshit, that's all. There was a lot of the latter. What I kept is what seemed viable and might make an actual bud. A bit extreme, I know. Let's see what she's got now. Might slow her down for a day or two. Lmao.
Heh.
Major Overhaul
Okay @Azimuth, check out our latest venture into unknown territory with the Spud Bud plant.
First picture shows you what we're working with after my intervention. Lol. You can see the pile in the background on the floor of what I took. I can't stop laughing.
Second picture is a Spud canopy shot.
Last picture is a bonus shot of all of Elora's canopy, since I had Spud out of the tent and had the space to get her all in one frame. Small picture, but that's what she's got.
Focusing the energy upwards on Spud and removing bullshit, that's all. There was a lot of the latter. What I kept is what seemed viable and might make an actual bud. A bit extreme, I know. Let's see what she's got now. Might slow her down for a day or two. Lmao.
Heh.
BubbaKush909
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Hey @Jon! I see you're as busy as ever it just took me an hour to catch up. I can't get over how big Titan is, and your Jack auto too. Titan looks like a photo. Amazing.
Your hunch was correct, light definitely leaks through the foam in your a/c unit. I checked mine a few weeks ago. It's enough to be a concern.
I decided to take your advice and top the Mimosa Lemon 4 days ago, she's now day 28. I'm thinking of bending her over, let me know what you think.
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I think I know what you're gonna say lol
My first Strawberry Banana seed never broke ground. It cracked and I planted it with about 1/4 inch tap root. After 3 days I tried to find it and never did. But the 2nd one broke ground today so hopefully we're on our way. Have a great rest of your day!
Your hunch was correct, light definitely leaks through the foam in your a/c unit. I checked mine a few weeks ago. It's enough to be a concern.
I've been running all my lights at or slightly above the factory recommendations. I'm still getting a feel for them.
I decided to take your advice and top the Mimosa Lemon 4 days ago, she's now day 28. I'm thinking of bending her over, let me know what you think.
I think I know what you're gonna say lol
My first Strawberry Banana seed never broke ground. It cracked and I planted it with about 1/4 inch tap root. After 3 days I tried to find it and never did. But the 2nd one broke ground today so hopefully we're on our way. Have a great rest of your day!