Jon705's Multi Strain HPS LED Hybrid System

[jon705]

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Good weed to you and yours to Fishy,seems like it happens everytime i start a new journal bro

 

[mcloadie]

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Sorry let me clarify. I would not agree with defoliation not the asshole comment. If he wants to call me an asshole that's fine, no real offence taken. Lol Many people would agree with that.
Defoliation at any time is against the plants wishes.

Defoliation would be unnatural only in a natural environment...IMHO, we are dealing with such a degraded light form that the manipulations become almost necessary. I will say that I was in the same mind as you with defoliation and I'm practicing this technique on my current run. I do know this...I would never touch a leaf on an outdoor plant, LOL....they grow just fine with little manipulation, and we must know that any leaf removed or any injury to the plant must have some affect contrary to a stress free cycle. Man, I just burned a fattie and got ripped while makin this post...LOL........And bro, jon didn't call you an asshole.....in a million years......

 

[jon705]

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good weed Mcloadie, I agree and thanks bro

 

[mcloadie]

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good weed Mcloadie, I agree and thanks bro

Hey jon, from the amount of research and experience that's resident here, I do a lot of things that I never would have attempted had I not had this resource....thanks to everyone!

 

[s1ingblade]

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dang jon those pics of the outdoor plants make me think maybe the grass is greener on the other side

 

[shottafire]

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Since your talking about defol I thought I would chime in. With this hobby there is so many variables to each part of the garden. One being manipulation. Whether its bending pruning topping filming. I am a fan of not topping really or bending I just defoliate when I see leaves that need to be removed. Its more unnatural for us to top them is what I have learned and will actually hurt some strains in the weight dept, while the same strain untopped with defol outperform the topped version. to each his own really. I have seen better results everytime when I do my routine defoliation. I am not a pro but I am learning and taking notes from a few guys I look up to in my circle of friends.

whatever you do I know will be great though.

 

[fish cake]

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so what if DOG was spelled C A T ?

 

[jon705]

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heres some pics of the outdoor patches, theres a few autos that look pretty unhappy and I think its probably due to the cold nights(8-10 degrees) but im not sure, most of them look fine though, and all of the photoperiod plants look great exept for the blue hash that now looks terrible. I just added a months worth of nutes to it so thats how long it has to recover lol...if its still looking the same or worst when its time for more nutes I ll probably cull it.

full view of the blue hash

close ups

autos

this is what the unhappy ones look like

and the other patch, all but 1 look pretty good over here

kita, my security detail

PS: the white spots on the blue hash is pollen from surounding plants not mites.

 

[jon705]

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INDOOR UPDATE

TEMPS 78 DAYTIME 70 NIGHTIME
RH 40-45%
RES TEMPS 63-65 DEGREES
Ph 5.5
CO2 900-1100 PPM'S

Theres really not much to report at this point but I was bored so I took some pics.Everything is running flawlessly and the girls seem to be really digging the upgrades so far, there was new growth the day after transplant and theres roots coming out of the big netpots only 3 days after transplant
full view

Both Jacks

Blue og, this strain vegs alot faster than the others so I ll be doing alot of supercropping with this one to keep the canopy somewhat even.

random Purple kush shots

is it just me or do the leaves look plump?

hope you enjoy the pics

 

[fish cake]

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yet again I enjoyed another time

 

[Medicatetoday]

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so what if DOG was spelled C A T ?

I have 1 cat, he likes to make "ROF ROF" in the morning and catch dogs

 

[TaylorMade420]

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everytime i pop on here i get jealous as hell lol


great work mate if you ever need a hand to trim just ask, always wanted to visit canada anyhoo lol

reps

 

[jon705]

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lol...Im hoping I need lots of help trimming this round bro

 

[Richard Richardson]

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I have 1 cat, he likes to make "ROF ROF" in the morning and catch dogs

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Plants look really happy. And rightly so

Your 1 or 2 bad eggs won't affect you quite as much as they would a mere mortal grower....

 

[Medicatetoday]

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plants look really happy. And rightly so

your 1 or 2 bad eggs won't affect you quite as much as they would a mere mortal grower....

what did i just saw...my faith is gone! Gone!!!

 

[donpaul.p]

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hi mate, everything looks great you got some very nice plants their,

i have been growing autos for a while now and noticed that they tend to prefer cooler temps, when i have an auto in my flower room like i have got now i have to make sure its at the edge of the room nearest the door which i leave slightly open to vent due to high temps i get when door shut, so i then started to notice that my autos seemed to grow much better with slightly cooler temps,

now i know this might depend on strain but when i looked into autos they tend to grow in much cooler climates, the leaves ony my kc45 auto tend to look like yours when its closer to the light, my regular plants are fine at the right temp but all the autos i have grown tend to struggle with high temps, keeping a fan blowing on them and making sure my plant is near the door soon solved all my problems,

my auto was really struggling and bud growth was slow but since making sure that its cooler than the other plants it grew like crazy and is going to give me 4 1ft buds, now my purple cheese auto is totally the opposite, its 4 nodes high, side branches are between 1 and 2 inches long and the plant is in flower, all autos i have grown finish around 1foot in height but this auto kc45 is around 3ft with huge buds but the purple cheese auto is small like most the autos i grow,

im not saying this is the same problem as yours, it could be down to the soil or nutes, autos dont like regular nute levels, i had huge problems with some autos when i fed them the same as my other plants, so i started at 1/4 strength and slowly upped it and managed to max out at around half the regular dose of bpn, i also found autos prefer the soil to be much drier than regular plants, i had bad leaf curl due to them getting the same amount of water as my other plants, when i stopped watering as much the problem was solved,

so from what i can tell these autos grow in cooler climates in soil that is not as nutrient as the other cannabis plants grow in, again this is from my own experience, as your growing yours outdoors then their is not much you can do about the soil plus without getting it tested you wont know ph or ppm count, but if your feeding nutes then id cut it down to about half and see if the plant picks up,

i found similar problems with all autos i have grown, none could really take full strength nutes at least not till the end of flower, i think its the N that is a bit to hot for them in the nutrients, so all i can suggest is either cut the nute dose down on the autos and try watering slightly less, but only you can know for sure what works and what dont, i had time to run tests due to the amount of autos i have grown and they all seem to suffer the same problem, my main problem was heat stress and to much nutes, once i figured out they needed much less than other plants they soon sorted themselves out and the leaf problem vanished,

so just thought id throw that out their in case its something you can try with yours

for growers who grow autos indoors i find they take a lot longer to grow if their grown under 12-12 with flowering plants, they dont produce more buds but just badly slows growth, i find 20-4 is about the best lighting for the best growth, i would not prune any branches or leaves as this slows growth and might mean smaller buds, the only thing i do with autos is use pipe cleaners to pull the leaves open so the light can reach every growth at the nodes,

all you can do is play around until you find whats causing the problem,
but then again i have had several autos that are not stable, they dont seem a very stable strain, i bought 10kc brains or kc45 auto seeds, i have grown 7 of the seeds and 5 where female, every single plant grew different, some grew taller and some bushy but this last seed i got in flower now is by far the biggest auto of the batch and this one has taken a lot longer to grow than the others,

 

[jon705]

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Thanks for that DP, I grew a cheese auto last round indoors in the flower room 12/12 and it finished at 39 inches tall and yielded 3.3 oz.all the cheese outdoors are doing great its a few of the big bang,narcotic kush and autobomb that arent happy.This is really my first go at auto's so im still learning.Im using a time release veg and bloom nutrient called Dagda from nutri+, heres the link
Dagda - The Lord of the Field
alot of outdoor growers around here love the stuff, it definetly makes it easier with a crop this size I just have to figure out the right dose, as you said they dont like the soil to hot

 

[donpaul.p]

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i grew the big bang auto as well, the buds i got from that auto was really nice tasting, the purple cheese auto i got growing is the 1st cheese auto, its only just started flower so hoping it will keep growing a bit before it goes into full flower, the top bud is developing pretty quick now so wont be getting much if it dont start growing a bit quicker, auto bomb was another i grew, that one produced ok and had very little problems with that one, again was some very nice bud when finished,

the worst auto i grew was pyramids auto purple, id have to say it was unsmokable, the buds where tiny and really airy, tasted like crap, it struggled to grow from day one and picked up when it started to flower but the buds looked nice they was a nice dark purple but only because i gave them a few nights of cold at the end of flower, but not a strain ill grow again,

how would you compare them nutrients to herbies, i use the 3part plus bloom booster from corey at bpn, i was giften it by 2 growers on here and corey chipped in with the delivery charges due to the country im in, i seen how good the results where but could not afford to buy it when i first started growing then 2 growers on here chipped in and paid for me to get the bpn products and corey shipped them out so i could give them a try and they have lasted ages, im running out of the bloom so need to think about getting some new products, i noticed corey has got many new products so might give some of them a try, only problem for me is the delivery costs work out more than the actual products, but i was getting great results after using bpn,

a hydroponics shop has opened up in the town next to mine so might pop in their and see what they got to sell but i have had such a great experience with corey and his products so really leaning towards buying some bpn, but im open to try others depending on price and delivery costs,

 

[Vick074]

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Everything looks so good bro..
with only like what, 2 or 3 out of a thousand plants not in perfect health!?
Doing a killer job jon.
rooting for ya buddy!

 

[runewulfsong]

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Another wonderful grow, I'm subbed