Jon705's Multi Strain HPS LED Hybrid System

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Curso said:
The compound is f'in awesome Jon!!!
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Thanks bro,I just went a had a look and I swear they are almost doubling in size daily right now!! I cant say enough about these time release nutes im using bro, no mollases no expensive additives and they are rocking it out back there, the smell is overpowering now I cant imagine how strong it will be by harvest:)
 
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Sweet, I've got a spot picked out for a 30x30 but I'm hoping we'll get some American Hempcrete soon so I'm waiting for that(maybe)..Split into 4(5) rooms it will be great. 10x30 veg/clone/strawberries/fruits, 10x20 flower,10x20 work area, 10x30 dry/trim/store/hash making & maybe a place to breed in this room....It's certainly my future, gotta get some large perpetual harvests going as next year I can sell to the retail stores:)
 
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Wow this thread got heated and way off the mark of what jon intended I am sure. so to go back on point. Jon how are things going for you on your grow last I knew you were bringing the girls from outside in cause of transfer shock I think? bout two weeks ago I think Just before I hit the road for Maine
 
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My threads are always like this bro, I usually have several different little experiments of some sort on the go so we discuss alot of different topics, keeps things interesting. The indoor girls are doing great, the discoloration was from underfeeding them, ive had to spread them out and tie them down and mount the lights right on the ceiling in an atempt to keep things under control, so far so good but theres still 10 days of stretch so fingers crossed.I did an update a cpl days ago its a few pages back:)
 
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Oh F**k ya! supersoil here I come!
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I havent recieved the Humic acid yet, im thinking Ill add it as soon as it gets here, it must be some pretty powerful stuff the recipe only calls for 2 tbs of it?
 
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Ok so I got my first attempt at supersoil mixed up, its definetly work lol..it took around 2.5 hrs to make and it 36 degrees in the shade today so I lost a few pounds but thats ok I like hard work once in awhile.
I made it on a large tarp
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started off with 6 15 pound bags of organic base soil, 25 pounds of worm castings, half of a very large bag of perlite and half of all the amendments mixed that up a bit then added the rest of the soil another 10 15 pound bags of base another 25 pds of worm castings the rest of the perlite cocco and everything else.I then spreadit out on the tarp and broke up all of the chunks working the soil back anf forth for around an hr and a half until I didnt see anymore amandments at at all and the perlite was evenly spread out into the soil.
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then I watered it down with about 5 gallons of water and mixed it up again the wrapped it all up.it will sit for 3 weeks and then I ll mix it up good again then it sits for another 3 weeks and voila supersoil...hopefully. So 2-3 hrs of work every 6 months or so...I can deal with that:)
 
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hi jon, just catching up not been on in a few days been busy with my daughters birthday so finally got chance to get on and catch up,

nice work with the air layering/cloning method, i knew it would work and said it works well, so glad to see someone else try it, looks like you got amazing results, it makes the hardest to clone plants very easy to clone, so reps for giving it a try and getting results like that,

plants look great, things are going really well, if i could reps you twice i would do, ill remember more reps when it lets me,
 
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I really thank you for the kind words brotha. You are going to be really happy with your results. I am recycling my first run of about 45 gallons of super soil I will let you know how that goes. should work out good.

The next set I have a feeling is going to be almost perfect.
 
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donpaul.p said:
hi jon, just catching up not been on in a few days been busy with my daughters birthday so finally got chance to get on and catch up,

nice work with the air layering/cloning method, i knew it would work and said it works well, so glad to see someone else try it, looks like you got amazing results, it makes the hardest to clone plants very easy to clone, so reps for giving it a try and getting results like that,

plants look great, things are going really well, if i could reps you twice i would do, ill remember more reps when it lets me,
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Thanks DP, it worked alot better than expected bro, That is a 12 inch clone without one spec of yellowing, its been 2 days since I planted it and shes already perking up and starting to grow.Since I will only need 4 new plants every 3 weeks I just might start using this tecnique all the time,I have limited room in the veg room so If I go that route I will only need small bonzai style mothers and no humidity dome:)
 
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shottafire said:
I really thank you for the kind words brotha. You are going to be really happy with your results. I am recycling my first run of about 45 gallons of super soil I will let you know how that goes. should work out good.

The next set I have a feeling is going to be almost perfect.
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No wories bro you deserve them those nugs are gorgeous!
 
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thats the best thing about air cloning, it always works as long as no light leaks and the clones are ready to plant as soon as you cut them off the plant, plus you can have any size clone you like, i can see this been a good method for a sog grow, you could have several mothers and using this method you could take clones and put them strait under 12-12,
 
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I just had a thought, since this air layering tecnique works so well and makes such a nice rootball right on the plant why not do some of the training on the mothers? Im going to have 3 zones 3 weeks apart with 3 different strains so there will be 9 weeks inbetween cloning each mother.in those 9 weeks why couldn't I say UBT 4 branches on a mother and then air layer it?I think this would cut down on veg time and recovery time for the clones, the first stage of training would already be done before I cut it off of the plant, once the clones are nice and rooted it would only be a matter of topping each of the 4 main branches for 8 main colas per plant, this could be done one week after beeing planted and the training is done...im going to try it:)
 
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Good weed Jon and Family!:)
dont know what happened but I got unsubbed! so here I is again:)
 
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sounds like a good idea to me, as long as the roots did not get root bound then you can leave it on the mother plant as long as you like, once you see the roots have grown you can always add more grow medium to is so more roots can grow,

so i think it would be an interesting idea to do everything on the mother plant then its ready when you cut it off, ive been interested in it since the first time i tried it, you can pretty much have any size clone you like without worrying about it not rooting, usually regular clone method leaves us with small clones and a long veg period to root and grow, but this air method means the clone is ready to grow as soon as its off the plant, so what your thinking of doing has got to be worth a try, would be an interesting experiment for sure,

the other method i have tried is grating, i only managed to get it to work once, but basically its growing 2 or more strains on 1 plant, you take a clone off one plant and then at the node on the other plant you cut a V, then cut a V on the bottom stem of the clone, then slot the 2 together and use some tape to hold them together, then if it takes you have another strain growing off 1 plant,

so if i had another room to mother a plant for clones, id graft 2 different strains onto the 1 plant, so you would end up with 3 different strains growing off one stem and one root mass, i tried many times to get this to work but out of about 10 tries i only managed to get 1 graft to work, but i did have 2 strains on one plant and when it flowered i got to harvest 2 different strains from 1 plant, it was only a small test so only a small branch but with a mother you could grow it out and have 1 mother plant but could take clones from 3 different strains, i just thought this method would cut down on the amount of mother plants for taking clones from,

its tough to get right but ill try it again next time round, ill do it early on so their is enough veg time then i can show it in my journal that i got 2 strains growing from just 1 plant,
 
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mmm..I think there is still a transition period so to speak because even thought the clone is fully rooted on the mother it is not using those roots for nutrient uptake yet, its still getting everything it needs from mama, so there will still be a period of little growth while the clones adjusts to getting its food from its own roots.
And it would be ALOT of work to get your clones this way for a sog grow.Sog was my bread and butter style for many years bro so I got really fast at taking clones lol...I can probably cut and plant 100 clones in the time it would take me to do 6-8 air layer clones, and either way you still have to wait until the roots grow through the 4 inch cubes before you flip to 12/12, a well rooted clone in a rapid rooter will grow through the cube in 4-6 days, I dont think the air layered clone could do it any faster so it wouldn't be a practical tecnique for that style of growing but for a perpetual grow where you only need 4 plants every 3 weeks and space is an issue I think it makes perfect sense, not to mention that with practice alot of the training would already be done when you plant it, there is no training in sog, just a bunch of colas on sticks:)
 
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