re: Jon705's Multi Strain HPS LED Hybrid System
the autos i grew was all kc45 and came from the same batch as confirmed by herbies,
the 5 or 6 i grew under 20-4 and 24-0 produced very poor indeed, the one under 12-12 did amazing and gave me fat 1ft buds and over 2oz compared with 1/4 to 3 8ths from the 20-4 grows
now my plants are in veg again, i got an auto purple thats doing very poor and is in full flower so no longer growing anymore, very little side growth, top bud is 2inch in length, the side branches are between 2 inches and an inch in length with buds of similar size, when dry ill get very little, similar results to the 20-4 kc45, ive got another 2 kc45 growing and just sprouted under veg schedule, my lights are now on 17-7 to try and see what results i get, clearly if these kc45 produce more than the 20-4 then this would suggest they do a whole lot better under the schedules that give them more light, i still have a few kc45 left so wheni flip my regular plants to flower ill plant a couple of kc45 about 5 days before i flip the lights then i can see how they do this time round under 12-12.
i think a lot of growers think their autos and they need the most light possible, but clearly this is not the case, autos are autos because ruderalis grows in cool temps usualy in places like mountains in russia, they dont have seasons as such they either have long days or long nights, so they dont have the seasons like regular plants, so they flower due to age, but is this age in light hours or age in actually days of growing,
to me it seems like they flower due to age in matter of light hours, so constant light means they flower sooner, which my kc45 did, 2 weeks and they started flower and stopped any stretch then continued to flower and produced very little, under 12-12 they kept on growing and started flowering about week 3 to 4, but the plants continued to grow taller and bushier even after starting to flower, we know plants grow in the dark, they stretch in the dark to try and find the light, this means the main stem grows, branches grow, also roots grow at night, and we know that the more roots you got the quicker the plant grows and the bigger it gets,
so we need more testing, we need more growers testing these autos and different schedule, as we cant use clones to compare perfectly then all we can do is get different strains and try them during veg cycle and again under 12-12 then we will have a lot of info to look at and we can then compare results and schedules and see what works best,
we could even start and auto experiemt thread and just post all the info under that thread, who ever makes the thread could edit the first post and keep adding who is growing what and under what schedule, then the results can be added to the very first post as well, then we have all got something we can go to to compare results and schedules, i think that will give us somewhere to post results and ideas instead of doing it in lots of different journals,
i think this would be a good idea if we could get a few members up for this, it would have everything about autos in 1 place, we could send new members their to read how we are getting on or to even add their own autos grows, it would just be like a journal but a journal for many growers not just one, keep it strictly autos then we will have a good source of info for future grows and for future growers who are growing autos
but so far im getting very poor results under 20-4, this auto purple was grown under 20-4, but i was getting very poor results with my regular plants under 20-4 so i switched my lights to 17-7 which im on now but it was to late for this auto purple as it was in middle to late flower, so it wont benefit from the extra dark, but my kc45 autos will grow under this as they just sprouted so can see how these grow,
im also getting lots of seeds of the auto purple, ive crossed some fem pollen with one of the lower buds and ive crossed my ken estes gdp with 3 of the other lower buds and i can now see seeds forming, i know they wont all be auto but i should have between 10 and 20 fem seeds and around 40 to 50 regular seeds, the odd one will be auto but thats not my goal, im trying to get a true purple strain, but since going to the videos that jon pointed me to i think my problem is not the strain but the nutrients we use, super soil might be my only option to get true purps, subcool is getting amazing plants, with amazing purples and he uses no nutrients what so ever for the whole grow,
just that super soil jon has mentioned,
the autos i grew was all kc45 and came from the same batch as confirmed by herbies,
the 5 or 6 i grew under 20-4 and 24-0 produced very poor indeed, the one under 12-12 did amazing and gave me fat 1ft buds and over 2oz compared with 1/4 to 3 8ths from the 20-4 grows
now my plants are in veg again, i got an auto purple thats doing very poor and is in full flower so no longer growing anymore, very little side growth, top bud is 2inch in length, the side branches are between 2 inches and an inch in length with buds of similar size, when dry ill get very little, similar results to the 20-4 kc45, ive got another 2 kc45 growing and just sprouted under veg schedule, my lights are now on 17-7 to try and see what results i get, clearly if these kc45 produce more than the 20-4 then this would suggest they do a whole lot better under the schedules that give them more light, i still have a few kc45 left so wheni flip my regular plants to flower ill plant a couple of kc45 about 5 days before i flip the lights then i can see how they do this time round under 12-12.
i think a lot of growers think their autos and they need the most light possible, but clearly this is not the case, autos are autos because ruderalis grows in cool temps usualy in places like mountains in russia, they dont have seasons as such they either have long days or long nights, so they dont have the seasons like regular plants, so they flower due to age, but is this age in light hours or age in actually days of growing,
to me it seems like they flower due to age in matter of light hours, so constant light means they flower sooner, which my kc45 did, 2 weeks and they started flower and stopped any stretch then continued to flower and produced very little, under 12-12 they kept on growing and started flowering about week 3 to 4, but the plants continued to grow taller and bushier even after starting to flower, we know plants grow in the dark, they stretch in the dark to try and find the light, this means the main stem grows, branches grow, also roots grow at night, and we know that the more roots you got the quicker the plant grows and the bigger it gets,
so we need more testing, we need more growers testing these autos and different schedule, as we cant use clones to compare perfectly then all we can do is get different strains and try them during veg cycle and again under 12-12 then we will have a lot of info to look at and we can then compare results and schedules and see what works best,
we could even start and auto experiemt thread and just post all the info under that thread, who ever makes the thread could edit the first post and keep adding who is growing what and under what schedule, then the results can be added to the very first post as well, then we have all got something we can go to to compare results and schedules, i think that will give us somewhere to post results and ideas instead of doing it in lots of different journals,
i think this would be a good idea if we could get a few members up for this, it would have everything about autos in 1 place, we could send new members their to read how we are getting on or to even add their own autos grows, it would just be like a journal but a journal for many growers not just one, keep it strictly autos then we will have a good source of info for future grows and for future growers who are growing autos
but so far im getting very poor results under 20-4, this auto purple was grown under 20-4, but i was getting very poor results with my regular plants under 20-4 so i switched my lights to 17-7 which im on now but it was to late for this auto purple as it was in middle to late flower, so it wont benefit from the extra dark, but my kc45 autos will grow under this as they just sprouted so can see how these grow,
im also getting lots of seeds of the auto purple, ive crossed some fem pollen with one of the lower buds and ive crossed my ken estes gdp with 3 of the other lower buds and i can now see seeds forming, i know they wont all be auto but i should have between 10 and 20 fem seeds and around 40 to 50 regular seeds, the odd one will be auto but thats not my goal, im trying to get a true purple strain, but since going to the videos that jon pointed me to i think my problem is not the strain but the nutrients we use, super soil might be my only option to get true purps, subcool is getting amazing plants, with amazing purples and he uses no nutrients what so ever for the whole grow,
just that super soil jon has mentioned,
Not sure what seed company but I'm gonna go through Green House seeds autos before trying others...Arjan has to be doing something right with all them trophies & the King of Cannabis moniker...I'm gonna go TGA for my regulars though!
...I shoulda started selling right then but put my head in the books!
thats what im hoping for bro, this hydro set up was becoming all consuming and stressful, I just hope it doesnt take me to long to figure out the right base, worse case senario I have to make my own and thats fine too, just a little more work once or twice a year