Jon705's Multi Strain HPS LED Hybrid System

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Hey bro I've been reading about greensand and azomite to see what one is better and most of what I read pointed to azomite as its finer I stead of granulated, just a heads up so you can look into it.

Hoping someone else has some input.
Azomite and humic acid are already in the mail bro, the green sand and other things I mentioned are in the base soil and thats the problem, theres nothing like it around here, so theres recipes online to make the base from scratch, if this stuff I have now doesnt work out then thats what I ll be doing:)
 
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I'm sure you'll source a high quality organic soil quickly, it's probably in the last place you expect!!!
your forgetting where I live bro, ive been just about everywhere looking for good base, I spent a whole day driving from one store to the next including greenhouses and grocery stores theres nothing even close, but one way or another I ll figure out how to make my own base, for right now im stuck with whats available here
 
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How much to add...yeah I'm in the same boat. So far what I've done has been doing ok, a little trouble with one plant but otherwise its good.

We're in different worlds, as far as growing, but you're a great grower you'll get it figured out.
I think the only option I have is to make my own base, I dont have many other options this far north:(
 
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Well, your best bet is to build the soil you can & then send a sample off to see what it's missing...I'm not sure if they do that in Canadia but here in the states our AG dept. tests for free & mails or e-mails you a complete survey of the soil your using...But honestly any decent base will do fine, you just might need to feed in flower...
 
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yeah what Legit said:)
 
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Well, your best bet is to build the soil you can & then send a sample off to see what it's missing...I'm not sure if they do that in Canadia but here in the states our AG dept. tests for free & mails or e-mails you a complete survey of the soil your using...But honestly any decent base will do fine, you just might need to feed in flower...
hmm..thats a good question, I have no idea if Canada does that too but im going to find out:)
 
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Its freakin dirt! if anyone can grow a fine crop worrying with Hydro brother you should and will do more than fine with a soil grow!
shoot if I had all the amenities you have I could give you a go brother! not saying I would be a challenge but you got skills and would do well with bags of sand the way you grow! don't sweat it to much.:circle-of-love:
 
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Worst comes to worst John, send it to one of us in the states & we'll get it done..Can't remember how much they needed but it wasn't a big amount..Oh yeah, a lot of those amendments become something else almost entirely during the cooking process by the little buggies that live in there....
 
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Its freakin dirt! if anyone can grow a fine crop worrying with Hydro brother you should and will do more than fine with a soil grow!
shoot if I had all the amenities you have I could give you a go brother! not saying I would be a challenge but you got skills and would do well with bags of sand the way you grow! don't sweat it to much.:circle-of-love:
lol...thanks for the pep talk Fishy:Namaste: I worry because this is my source of income, my only source so I cant afford to mess it up to bad but your right bro, im just going to mix the supersoil with the base I have and see what happens, I have to start somewhere...Curso said he might be able so find me some good base soil in Barrie, thats 3 hrs South of here but since I would only have to make the drive twice a year I would do it, hopefully the worse case senario is I have to topfeed with more supersoil halfway through flower and not all kinds of defficiencies because the mix is all wrong:bitingnails:
 
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btw, supersoil isnt just dirt its super concentrated soil that will kill just about anything else you grow with it, even after its been used once you cant put it in your veggie garden it will kill everything so getting it right is important but I will, its just going to take time and alot of reading, theres is so much more knowlege needed to be a good organic grower than hydro imo and I take alot of pride in my work...shitty grows arent acceptable to me...its just the way im wired lol
 
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this is cheesy compared to all the other folks and may work for your base. but it is all I use and this will fill 2 five gallon pots so if you will do the math:)
2cubic feet
%40 potting soil
%20 perlite
%10worm castings
%10peat moss
5%lime
5%azmonite
kelp and fish meal what ever makes up the difference :)
this may work for your base bro.
I am sure it is about as amateur as you can get but it works for me:)
 
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I know Dirt is a nasty word! just hopping for the best for you bro!
from now on it will be soil:)
btw, supersoil isnt just dirt its super concentrated soil that will kill just about anything else you grow with it, even after its been used once you cant put it in your veggie garden it will kill everything so getting it right is important but I will, its just going to take time and alot of reading, theres is so much more knowlege needed to be a good organic grower than hydro imo and I take alot of pride in my work...shitty grows arent acceptable to me...its just the way im wired lol
 
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hi jon, plants look great mate well done,

i been watching all of subcools school of dank, in one episode he does say a few different base soil types he has used, not sure which ep as so many to watch, i just had them on continuous play and kept watching,

im going to try and pick some of the items up myself and mix a batch up at my moms, i dont have a garden and cant really have several big bins full of super soil sitting in my spare room, not sure it would go down well if anyone did find it, not that they would but would be hard to say i am a basic grower if i got all that stashed away,

so ill try and see what i can get, i can mix it all up at my moms, my dad got big cement mixer so can just fill that up and keep mixing it up and tipping it out until i am sure its all mixed, then let it brew for a while before use, its a bit tough to hear sub speak in them vids and light is pretty bad as well, but he does say he has used several base compost to use for super soil, so as long as you can find something similar then you should be ok, i cant get anything like he mentioned where i am as its just not sold in the UK, so i googled each make he suggested and wrote down the info off the product so i can take it round the garden centers to try and find something that would work,

but subs idea of growing with no nutes is pretty good, plants seem to flower amazingly and end up their true colour, using nutes is probably whats stopping me from getting the purple out of my purple plants, when you watch his vides he has some amazing looking purple bud that just grew like it with no cold temps, no nute stress, so clearly the problem is the nutes, ok nutes are what we need to make the plants grow at their best, but it does not bring out the plants true colours,

so ill be giving his mix a try for my next grow, ill pick up what i can and get some mixes going, not using nutes would offset the costs of the products needed for super soil, so will be interesting to see what i can get and how it works,

now the autos grown under 12-12, ive got my plants on veg schedule now, running 19-7, my regular plants are doing brilliant under this schedule, how ever my autos are slow growing, the auto purple cheese is in full flower and not gaining anymore height, ill be lucky to get 14g from it, what a joke, the kc45 autos are under same schedule and growing slow, last time under 12-12 it grew like crazy and got me some huge buds, so their must be something with this 12-12 for autos,

im thinking maybe 20-4 or 24-0 makes the autos reach flowering age a lot sooner,
12-12 means their getting juts 12 hours of light over 24 so that means it needs 48 hours under 12-12 to get 24 hours of total light, when the lights are off these plants stretch to find the light again, making the plant taller and branches longer, this would mean more nodes would need growing to produce the leaf the plant needs to grow, so after this grow ill be going back to 12-12 form my autos then ill know for sure if 12-12 is what works best,
 
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ive not tried them on 18-6 but it makes sense as it gives them some night period that clearly they need,

i might try my next round of autos on 18-6 and see how they compare to the autos under 12-12, i always gave them 24-0 or 20-4 due to everyone saying autos need the most light they can get to get the most growth, clearly this was miss info and didnt give me the results i was looking for
 
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The info on my autos told me that 18 to 12 is good...I honestly believe that autos are super unstable & that is why we get so many different yields & not so much the light schedule. The sun seems to even them out a bit from the looks of Jon's:) My three will be grown in three different locations, light schedules & enviros...One inside a house near a window, one on 12/12 & the other in nature...Should be a decent test!
 
The info on my autos told me that 18 to 12 is good...I honestly believe that autos are super unstable & that is why we get so many different yields & not so much the light schedule. The sun seems to even them out a bit from the looks of Jon's:) My three will be grown in three different locations, light schedules & enviros...One inside a house near a window, one on 12/12 & the other in nature...Should be a decent test!

Can't wait for those results, my personal thought is a 16/8 is more then enough light. I feel it's best to mimic light of the earth with autos as they were designed for short lighting schedules.
 
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