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Autos Going Bananas
Forbidden Runtz and Watermelon WeddingCake. Jeez.
Forbidden Runtz and Watermelon WeddingCake. Jeez.
Jon’s 3 Autoflower - 3 Pounds Attempt Grow
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Melinda
Banana Sherbet Autoflower
Day 78
I’m thinking we’re maybe two weeks out or so? Here’s the closest I can get to an overhead picture.
Banana Sherbet Autoflower
Day 78
I’m thinking we’re maybe two weeks out or so? Here’s the closest I can get to an overhead picture.
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I didn’t want to get close enough for him to run, so it’s not focused…but the lizards just love the water from the dehumidifier. This goes on all day.
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Watermelon WeddingCake
Reservoir Management
At the request of my Sensei for this grow, @Rexer, here’s how I maintain the res, step by step.
1. Test pen . TDS = 0 at “on” as it should.
2. Test gallon of plain tap water. TDS = 337.
3. Test gallon of mixed nutes, mixed carefully to the letter at exactly 100% recommended concentration, and ph’ed to 5.8. TDS = 146. This is my baseline.
4. Test TDS in reservoir before watering. TDS = 118.
5. Water upper pots letting runoff go into res. Top to fill line with more nute water. Rexer tells me this is “hot topping,” and it works. It also tears through nutes. I’ll be topping with plain ph’ed and cal mag water from now on and changing the res when the TDS gets to 100.
Measure res after watering. TDS = 137, pretty close.
6. I didn’t picture it but then I ph the res to 5.5 and let it go as high as 6.1 before using ph Down to knock it back down.
7. Here’s a picture of the roots coming out of the bottom inner res into the outer res.
So that’s what I’m doing and so far so good. The plant is gigantic and immaculate without the slightest sign of trouble, and it grows a visible amount daily.
Is this what you wanted Rex?
Reservoir Management
At the request of my Sensei for this grow, @Rexer, here’s how I maintain the res, step by step.
1. Test pen . TDS = 0 at “on” as it should.
2. Test gallon of plain tap water. TDS = 337.
3. Test gallon of mixed nutes, mixed carefully to the letter at exactly 100% recommended concentration, and ph’ed to 5.8. TDS = 146. This is my baseline.
4. Test TDS in reservoir before watering. TDS = 118.
5. Water upper pots letting runoff go into res. Top to fill line with more nute water. Rexer tells me this is “hot topping,” and it works. It also tears through nutes. I’ll be topping with plain ph’ed and cal mag water from now on and changing the res when the TDS gets to 100.
Measure res after watering. TDS = 137, pretty close.
6. I didn’t picture it but then I ph the res to 5.5 and let it go as high as 6.1 before using ph Down to knock it back down.
7. Here’s a picture of the roots coming out of the bottom inner res into the outer res.
So that’s what I’m doing and so far so good. The plant is gigantic and immaculate without the slightest sign of trouble, and it grows a visible amount daily.
Is this what you wanted Rex?
I admire your gumption Jon.Watermelon WeddingCake
Reservoir Management
At the request of my Sensei for this grow, @Rexer, here’s how I maintain the res, step by step.
1. Test pen . TDS = 0 at “on” as it should.
2. Test gallon of plain tap water. TDS = 337.
3. Test gallon of mixed nutes, mixed carefully to the letter at exactly 100% recommended concentration. TDS = 146. This is my baseline.
4. Test TDS in reservoir before watering. TDS = 118.
5. Water upper pots letting runoff go into res. Top to fill line with more nute water. Rexer tells me this is “hot topping,” and it works. It also tears through nutes. I’ll be topping with plain ph’ed and cal mag water from now on and changing the res when the TDS gets to 100.
Measure res after watering. TDS = 137, pretty close.
6. I didn’t picture it but then I ph the res to 5.5 and let it go as high as 6.1 before using ph Down to knock it back down.
7. Here’s a picture of the roots coming out of the bottom inner res into the outer res.
So that’s what I’m doing and so far so good. The plant is gigantic and immaculate without the slightest sign of trouble, and it grows a visible amount daily.
Is this what you wanted Rex?
There is nothing you won't tackle.
I'm still trying to figure out coco.
Let alone learn all this new stuff.
Hope your well today.
Stay safe
Bill284
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Hey it just occurred to me - that was my first root Porn picture ever! Lmao!Watermelon WeddingCake
Reservoir Management
At the request of my Sensei for this grow, @Rexer, here’s how I maintain the res, step by step.
1. Test pen . TDS = 0 at “on” as it should.
2. Test gallon of plain tap water. TDS = 337.
3. Test gallon of mixed nutes, mixed carefully to the letter at exactly 100% recommended concentration, and ph’ed to 5.8. TDS = 146. This is my baseline.
4. Test TDS in reservoir before watering. TDS = 118.
5. Water upper pots letting runoff go into res. Top to fill line with more nute water. Rexer tells me this is “hot topping,” and it works. It also tears through nutes. I’ll be topping with plain ph’ed and cal mag water from now on and changing the res when the TDS gets to 100.
Measure res after watering. TDS = 137, pretty close.
6. I didn’t picture it but then I ph the res to 5.5 and let it go as high as 6.1 before using ph Down to knock it back down.
7. Here’s a picture of the roots coming out of the bottom inner res into the outer res.
So that’s what I’m doing and so far so good. The plant is gigantic and immaculate without the slightest sign of trouble, and it grows a visible amount daily.
Is this what you wanted Rex?
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Glad you put the laughing guy after “still trying to figure out coco.” You’ve converted many a grower successfully from soil to coco. I’m one of them! And no, I’ll never forgive you.I admire your gumption Jon.
There is nothing you won't tackle.
I'm still trying to figure out coco.
Let alone learn all this new stuff.
Hope your well today.
Stay safe
Bill284
I've got a ZKTLZ or 2 that are 6' easy, 6 week veg.Glad you put the laughing guy after “still trying to figure out coco.” You’ve converted many a grower successfully from soil to coco. I’m one of them! And no, I’ll never forgive you.
How can you not love coco.
I like watching others do new stuff and learn with them.
Stay safe
Bill284
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I know! I tell everyone, once you come to the Dark Side there’s no going back!I've got a ZKTLZ or 2 that are 6' easy, 6 week veg.
How can you not love coco.
I like watching others do new stuff and learn with them.
Stay safe
Bill284
Bit late to welcome you home but 
home anyway! Finally caught up and done cleaning up the 
from all the scrog pics. Your stepdad did yeoman's service keeping those beauties happy.
to him!
home anyway! Finally caught up and done cleaning up the from all the scrog pics. Your stepdad did yeoman's service keeping those beauties happy. to him!How did your TDS go from 337 to 146 when you mixed in the nutes? Maybe I didn't sleep well in the heat but I'm confused.
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Me too! But I did it three times and three times I got the same result. There may be some other order of pushing the buttons to get different type readings? But all I need is one setting and one baseline. I trust the pen. Up to this point I’ve done it exactly this way and the results speak for themselves. I don’t mean it egotistically at all, I just mean to say it’s working. For this one I’m just trying to get a feel for it. After this grow I’ll delve. I’ve already figured out that having all that coco up top is a waste. I could have all those roots in the res. For example. So for now I’m going with, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. I know it’s terribly unscientific, but I am also in nearly constant communication with Rexer offline on this, and apparently everything I’m doing is an actual methodology (not that I thought I was inventing something new, just new to me). He’s had my back and tells me to stay this course, so I am. But yes, @InTheShed, it’s quite confusing, I totally agree.Bit late to welcome you home but
How did your TDS go from 337 to 146 when you mixed in the nutes? Maybe I didn't sleep well in the heat but I'm confused.
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And yes, he sure did do good work!!! I was very proud of him. Especially since I was delayed getting home and he had to mix a few gallons while I dictated it to him over speaker phone!
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Happiness is the arrival of the second growbuds oscillating fan you need for the 5x5. These fans are amazing.
I won't lie. It is a bit confusing- but you know how to mix nutes- I have zero doubts there. The only new variable is the meter, which is why I'm not too worried about it. There is a remote possibility it's not calibrated. But HM is fairly decent quality- not top line, but far from the bottom and has gotten me through all my grows.Watermelon WeddingCake
Reservoir Management
At the request of my Sensei for this grow, @Rexer, here’s how I maintain the res, step by step.
1. Test pen . TDS = 0 at “on” as it should.
2. Test gallon of plain tap water. TDS = 337.
Exactly- don't get too tripped over the numbers, you've got that massive coco style buffer above, that you handle like a pro!
Nope, just add the water with the cal mag in- ph after the reservoir is filled.4. Test TDS in reservoir before watering. TDS = 118.
5. Water upper pots letting runoff go into res. Top to fill line with more nute water. Rexer tells me this is “hot topping,” and it works. It also tears through nutes. I’ll be topping with plain ph’ed and cal mag water from now on and changing the res when the TDS gets to 100.
West Hippie showed me this, and now I top with plain RO water (cal mag added when needed).
Perfect. And it's something that's good to have, and that I usually ask when something might be slightly off.Measure res after watering. TDS = 137, pretty close.
6. I didn’t picture it but then I ph the res to 5.5 and let it go as high as 6.1 before using ph Down to knock it back down.
7. Here’s a picture of the roots coming out of the bottom inner res into the outer res.
So that’s what I’m doing and so far so good. The plant is gigantic and immaculate without the slightest sign of trouble, and it grows a visible amount daily.
Is this what you wanted Rex?
I think it's that there is a "mode" not being set, or some such. See below.
Everything in the reservoir is DWC rules, coco part...well coco rules apply. Its hydro across the board (so PH is simple) and a few members have done similar type systems. But theirs was slightly different, so this is unique.
As the meter is new, it's possible it's not calibrated? Or the mode was accidentally switched (been there...done that!!!).
That is 100% correct. Best example- she's not active on here anymore, but copperrein had a similar experience. Though I think she just couldn't get a meter that had the x5 scale (her's was x7) at first. Even though the numbers made no sense to most of us, it let her grow some pretty damn nice plants, and gave her the consistency that was needed in a measurement.
So while I prefer the x5 mode- so long as your using the same mode it should be ok. Though the mixed nutes being lower is something to look at.
Kinda like how you guys confuse me with that fahrenheit system
- it's all measurements.Sorry if that's a bit jumbled- long rough day
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I’m glad you’re in my corner Rexer. Thanks.I won't lie. It is a bit confusing- but you know how to mix nutes- I have zero doubts there. The only new variable is the meter, which is why I'm not too worried about it. There is a remote possibility it's not calibrated. But HM is fairly decent quality- not top line, but far from the bottom and has gotten me through all my grows.
Exactly- don't get too tripped over the numbers, you've got that massive coco style buffer above, that you handle like a pro!
Nope, just add the water with the cal mag in- ph after the reservoir is filled.
West Hippie showed me this, and now I top with plain RO water (cal mag added when needed).
Perfect. And it's something that's good to have, and that I usually ask when something might be slightly off.
I think it's that there is a "mode" not being set, or some such. See below.
Everything in the reservoir is DWC rules, coco part...well coco rules apply. Its hydro across the board (so PH is simple) and a few members have done similar type systems. But theirs was slightly different, so this is unique.
As the meter is new, it's possible it's not calibrated? Or the mode was accidentally switched (been there...done that!!!).
That is 100% correct. Best example- she's not active on here anymore, but copperrein had a similar experience. Though I think she just couldn't get a meter that had the x5 scale (her's was x7) at first. Even though the numbers made no sense to most of us, it let her grow some pretty damn nice plants, and gave her the consistency that was needed in a measurement.
So while I prefer the x5 mode- so long as your using the same mode it should be ok. Though the mixed nutes being lower is something to look at.
Kinda like how you guys confuse me with that fahrenheit system
Sorry if that's a bit jumbled- long rough day
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Melinda
First Trichome Pictures
Like little crystal icicles. I love early trichomes. So damn pretty.
First Trichome Pictures
Like little crystal icicles. I love early trichomes. So damn pretty.
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Melinda
Banana Sherbet
Day 78
Ok, so I have assessed us as now inside of two weeks. I have decided, after an entire grow of conservative (for me) light levels, to blast the crap out of them for the final fattening phase, which I believe is now. So I cranked the light up to 50%. The 420h is already way big for a 3x3, and at the proximity the buds are to the light, at 50% the tops are now between 1500 - 1600 ppfd, and the lowest buds are between 700-1000 ppfd. 1500 - 1600 is WAY too high. I ain’t running CO2, lol. I am well aware of this. But I am able to keep the tops at this light level and still keep the top of the canopy at around 80-82 degree with lots of moving air. This, in effect, takes the heat aspect out of play, and if you’re going to be stoopid (sic) like me and mess with light in this fashion you had better be able to manage the heat part. Sure, the light can burn the buds or bleach them a bit or create foxtails or whatever, but the heat is what kills you I’ve found. Anyway, no bud in the scrog is getting less than 700 ppfd. And all the buds were already getting nicely dense at the level I had been using, around 30% and around 1100 ppfd at the tops. Again, I never expected this plant to get anywhere close to the light. But I want to see if specifically blasting them in the final fattening phase makes a difference.
I’m blasting them now cuz for one thing, I couldn’t care less about foxtails. Titan had them in spades. They add weight. They smoke great. They’re denser than the rest of the bud. Who cares if your buds aren’t showcase looking? I’m not in a contest to make pretty buds or I would. I’m in a contest with myself to get a damn elbow from this plant. And I’ve kept them from foxtail-ing pretty well so far. It’s not that easy in this situation. You have to find the balance between temperature, moving air, RH, and light level. So I’m hoping with only two weeks left or so it won’t be too bad, but we’ll see. In the bud pictures below I intentionally picked buds that are already beginning to show the first signs of foxtails, so they will have time to do what they’re going to do. The other reason is that it’s basically too late to F them up too badly.
The pictures are just two shots from the front of the tent, right before and right after wake up, and then several bud shots. As my exhaust fan and filter are not being used at this point (all passive now), the entire garage STINKS. This bud is very evenly frosty all over, and is dense and kind of exotic looking in person. Can’t wait to see what they look like at the end.
Banana Sherbet
Day 78
Ok, so I have assessed us as now inside of two weeks. I have decided, after an entire grow of conservative (for me) light levels, to blast the crap out of them for the final fattening phase, which I believe is now. So I cranked the light up to 50%. The 420h is already way big for a 3x3, and at the proximity the buds are to the light, at 50% the tops are now between 1500 - 1600 ppfd, and the lowest buds are between 700-1000 ppfd. 1500 - 1600 is WAY too high. I ain’t running CO2, lol. I am well aware of this. But I am able to keep the tops at this light level and still keep the top of the canopy at around 80-82 degree with lots of moving air. This, in effect, takes the heat aspect out of play, and if you’re going to be stoopid (sic) like me and mess with light in this fashion you had better be able to manage the heat part. Sure, the light can burn the buds or bleach them a bit or create foxtails or whatever, but the heat is what kills you I’ve found. Anyway, no bud in the scrog is getting less than 700 ppfd. And all the buds were already getting nicely dense at the level I had been using, around 30% and around 1100 ppfd at the tops. Again, I never expected this plant to get anywhere close to the light. But I want to see if specifically blasting them in the final fattening phase makes a difference.
I’m blasting them now cuz for one thing, I couldn’t care less about foxtails. Titan had them in spades. They add weight. They smoke great. They’re denser than the rest of the bud. Who cares if your buds aren’t showcase looking? I’m not in a contest to make pretty buds or I would. I’m in a contest with myself to get a damn elbow from this plant. And I’ve kept them from foxtail-ing pretty well so far. It’s not that easy in this situation. You have to find the balance between temperature, moving air, RH, and light level. So I’m hoping with only two weeks left or so it won’t be too bad, but we’ll see. In the bud pictures below I intentionally picked buds that are already beginning to show the first signs of foxtails, so they will have time to do what they’re going to do. The other reason is that it’s basically too late to F them up too badly.
The pictures are just two shots from the front of the tent, right before and right after wake up, and then several bud shots. As my exhaust fan and filter are not being used at this point (all passive now), the entire garage STINKS. This bud is very evenly frosty all over, and is dense and kind of exotic looking in person. Can’t wait to see what they look like at the end.
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Melissa
Watermelon WeddingCake
This is just an enormous auto and she’s still stretching. 40” tall. 3’+ wide. 4 humongous mains plus shoots I kept on purpose and a very extensive ring at the lower level. This plant is going to need all kinds of support in about three weeks. It’s also, to my eyes, going to outyield the last one (12.75 finish trimmed buds, my best auto yield ever). I need it to if I want a pound, so I hope this does it. I see more roots in the res every day. When my new supply of nutes arrives today I am going to change out the water altogether. It’s been 9 days! Never thought I’d get away with that much time! This will be the first res change.
Here she is. She is quite gorgeous in my opinion. Just a lovely plant that will be a staple of mine. The weed is top top notch and very up, very creative, and very very FOCUSING. It’s the best playing music weed I’ve ever smoked, beating out Jack Herer and knocking JH to second place. A hybrid that smokes like a badass sativa, at least the first one is. I begin my day with it often.
Melissa:
Watermelon WeddingCake
This is just an enormous auto and she’s still stretching. 40” tall. 3’+ wide. 4 humongous mains plus shoots I kept on purpose and a very extensive ring at the lower level. This plant is going to need all kinds of support in about three weeks. It’s also, to my eyes, going to outyield the last one (12.75 finish trimmed buds, my best auto yield ever). I need it to if I want a pound, so I hope this does it. I see more roots in the res every day. When my new supply of nutes arrives today I am going to change out the water altogether. It’s been 9 days! Never thought I’d get away with that much time! This will be the first res change.
Here she is. She is quite gorgeous in my opinion. Just a lovely plant that will be a staple of mine. The weed is top top notch and very up, very creative, and very very FOCUSING. It’s the best playing music weed I’ve ever smoked, beating out Jack Herer and knocking JH to second place. A hybrid that smokes like a badass sativa, at least the first one is. I begin my day with it often.
Melissa:
AutoNautPsychoFlower
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Melissa
Watermelon WeddingCake
This is just an enormous auto and she’s still stretching. 40” tall. 3’+ wide. 4 humongous mains plus shoots I kept on purpose and a very extensive ring at the lower level. This plant is going to need all kinds of support in about three weeks. It’s also, to my eyes, going to outyield the last one (12.75 finish trimmed buds, my best auto yield ever). I need it to if I want a pound, so I hope this does it. I see more roots in the res every day. When my new supply of nutes arrives today I am going to change out the water altogether. It’s been 9 days! Never thought I’d get away with that much time! This will be the first res change.
Here she is. She is quite gorgeous in my opinion. Just a lovely plant that will be a staple of mine. The weed is top top notch and very up, very creative, and very very FOCUSING. It’s the best playing music weed I’ve ever smoked, beating out Jack Herer and knocking JH to second place. A hybrid that smokes like a badass sativa, at least the first one is. I begin my day with it often.
Melissa:
She is freaking stunning! I hate calling them monsters but shes looking like some kind of cannabis Cthulhu!! Cant wait to watch her stack all those mains!!! Great job Jon!