Smokeater
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When I changed the name of my journal, I had to go through an administrator. Don't know if anyone else knows of a better way. That's just the way I was told to do it.
JimmieJ's First Grow - Closet - Soil - Bag Seed - CFLs
When I changed the name of my journal, I had to go through an administrator. Don't know if anyone else knows of a better way. That's just the way I was told to do it.
night then
Editting is an admin thing ... you can post a request to change the title you want in your thread, to 'Title x'
Once it is posted, you can hit the triangle(report this post) next to 'Blog this post' and reps (the 6 pointed star) to report your post as needing the attention of an admin.
obviously, you don't want to request title changes very often
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JimmieJ
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Good afternoon all my 420 buds. I have a situation developing with Chillin1. She's starting to get yellow like her cousin Handy Dandy2.
I noticed it yesterday, and it seems like it's happening fast, just like it did with Handy Dandy2, so I need to take action asap so I don't piss her off and lose potential buds. If anyone can help me get her to the finish line, I will be most grateful! Check out the pics and then see comments below.
I posted a pic of Handy Dandy1 and Chillin1 side by side for reference so the problem is easier to see.
My camera seems to be losing its ability to focus close up, so these are the best pics I can get of the leaves.
Next are some pics I found on Google images that show deficiencies. I only included the ones that are most likely based on what I see. The full list is easy to find on Google Images if you search for "marijuana nutrient deficiency symptoms." I'm guessing it's Nitrogen, because it's the most common one, but I'd like some opinions. I'm not surprised by what is happening either, because 1.) the container is too small 2.) the soil is used potting mix from houseplants that has been sitting in the basement for a few years 3.) I'm using MG 4.) I didn't know what the f*** I was doing when I started, and I still have a long, long way to go
I suspect her nutrition needs are changing in this stage of her life and what I've done up to this point is no longer enough to keep her happy. I also suspect that it might be a delicate balancing act because of the small container and the way she's sucking up everything she can. Comments please! Thanks!
I noticed it yesterday, and it seems like it's happening fast, just like it did with Handy Dandy2, so I need to take action asap so I don't piss her off and lose potential buds. If anyone can help me get her to the finish line, I will be most grateful! Check out the pics and then see comments below.
I posted a pic of Handy Dandy1 and Chillin1 side by side for reference so the problem is easier to see.
My camera seems to be losing its ability to focus close up, so these are the best pics I can get of the leaves.
Next are some pics I found on Google images that show deficiencies. I only included the ones that are most likely based on what I see. The full list is easy to find on Google Images if you search for "marijuana nutrient deficiency symptoms." I'm guessing it's Nitrogen, because it's the most common one, but I'd like some opinions. I'm not surprised by what is happening either, because 1.) the container is too small 2.) the soil is used potting mix from houseplants that has been sitting in the basement for a few years 3.) I'm using MG 4.) I didn't know what the f*** I was doing when I started, and I still have a long, long way to go
I suspect her nutrition needs are changing in this stage of her life and what I've done up to this point is no longer enough to keep her happy. I also suspect that it might be a delicate balancing act because of the small container and the way she's sucking up everything she can. Comments please! Thanks!
Possibly nitrogen, any signs of the tips bent down at all? I know its not 100% but it helps.
How does the leaf feel? Is it crunchy and dry or still soft and supple.
Do you know the ph of your water as well?
Also looking at where the main colouring is happening is that bit right under the light?
How does the leaf feel? Is it crunchy and dry or still soft and supple.
Do you know the ph of your water as well?
Also looking at where the main colouring is happening is that bit right under the light?
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JimmieJ
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The leaves feel soft enough I guess - no crunchies or dryness at this point. They're starting to droop because she's thirsty. I'm going to go feed her, but crank the nutes up a notch. I'll go take a pH test of my water and post the results. When you say the main coloring, do you mean where it looks light in the middle, that it might be the lights causing that? If that's what you meant, no. It's how she looks. It's more pronounced in person. Now I know that N deficiency starts lower then moves up, but this thing has been LSTd so the middle parts are popping up from the lower part of the main stem. The upper branches have been trained to the sides.
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JimmieJ
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I've had a number of CFL burns on the leaves that touch the CFLs, and this isn't it. I'd look into heat stress, however I recently added a fan that has tripled the airflow so I don't believe that's it either.
So here's the pH test results of my tap water. It's been sitting out for a couple days to evap the chlorine. I don't like that it's slightly off the chart.
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JimmieJ
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Ok, so Chillin1 is my main priority right now. However, Handy Dandy2 is having some severe health problems. I've put some pics up before that didn't do her problems any justice. Showing her next to (so far) healthy Handy Dandy1 will make clear what I've been seeing, that just wasn't quite visible in the pics I posted, as there was nothing to compare it to. Kind of like the test tube of water in the pH kit above. Without the guide, it really isn't so helpful.
Now, I've been wanting to do a soil test to see what may be the problem, but the soil sample didn't want to cooperate. It was supposed to settle in 1-24 hours. Well it didn't.
So, I ran it through a coffee filter that I placed into a funnel.
Much better. Now for the results:
N: Appears adequate to sufficient. This shouldn't cause what she's experiencing.
P: Again, appears adequate, so no cause for concern.
K: Looks like I might have a surplus of potash (potassium)
This is where Handy Dandy2 stands. She's still hanging in there. But like I said, I want her cousin Chillin1 to make it, so if anyone has any connections to the pros that can diagnose our troubles, most greatly appreciated. I've done my homework to the best of my ability, and am not going to stop. But sometimes, someone can take one look at something and say, "oh - it's rootbound, N deficient, needs more light for the flowers you got, and... blah blah blah..." Now it's time to catch up with Smokey & company and see what they have going on.
Now, I've been wanting to do a soil test to see what may be the problem, but the soil sample didn't want to cooperate. It was supposed to settle in 1-24 hours. Well it didn't.
So, I ran it through a coffee filter that I placed into a funnel.
Much better. Now for the results:
N: Appears adequate to sufficient. This shouldn't cause what she's experiencing.
P: Again, appears adequate, so no cause for concern.
K: Looks like I might have a surplus of potash (potassium)
This is where Handy Dandy2 stands. She's still hanging in there. But like I said, I want her cousin Chillin1 to make it, so if anyone has any connections to the pros that can diagnose our troubles, most greatly appreciated. I've done my homework to the best of my ability, and am not going to stop. But sometimes, someone can take one look at something and say, "oh - it's rootbound, N deficient, needs more light for the flowers you got, and... blah blah blah..." Now it's time to catch up with Smokey & company and see what they have going on.
Dennise
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flush that baby with 5 times the volume of your container then let her drain and dry out then when you water her again start with 1/2 strength nutes... watch her real carefully during all this and make sure she it doesn't get worse and if it does take an asprin and call me in the morning...
for real though... I think a good flush and a push of nutes at half strength should straighten her out....
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for real though... I think a good flush and a push of nutes at half strength should straighten her out........- Thread starter
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JimmieJ
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flush that baby with 5 times the volume of your container then let her drain and dry out then when you water her again start with 1/2 strength nutes... watch her real carefully during all this and make sure she it doesn't get worse and if it does take an asprin and call me in the morning...
I will do just that Dennise
. Now I don't have 5 times her volume in water that was allowed to sit 24 hrs. Is fresh tap water ok to flush? Did you see my pH numbers of my tap water and is it a non-issue? I do have sump water available if it's any better. I tested it when I first got that fish tank pH tester and it was 6 point something.
Dennise
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The reason you have to let your water sit out is for the floride to disipate and I would hate for you to use it if it hasn't had time... I think I would put it out and do it first thing in the morning maybe..
Yep I think that is what I would do in this situation.. I use distilled bottled water so it's not an issue for me and I didn't think about that part sorry.... but just draw it out now and let it sit till in the morning and I think it will be fine........
Yep I think that is what I would do in this situation.. I use distilled bottled water so it's not an issue for me and I didn't think about that part sorry.... but just draw it out now and let it sit till in the morning and I think it will be fine........- Thread starter
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JimmieJ
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The reason you have to let your water sit out is for the floride to disipate and I would hate for you to use it if it hasn't had time... I think I would put it out and do it first thing in the morning maybe..
I'll go do that now and then it's lights out for me. Long day tomorrow so the water can sit till afternoon
. Thanks Dennise!
Nitrogen sucked out of fan leaves, beginning at the bottom, is typical during flower.
Please go ahead and follow Dennise's advice.
I'm just saying it happens: it is a common part of cannabis flowering.
Please go ahead and follow Dennise's advice.
I'm just saying it happens: it is a common part of cannabis flowering.
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JimmieJ
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I'm sorry guys - I think I'm all over the place and just expect everyone to be able to read my mind. I have two separate things going on. The one I thought Dennise is saying to flush is the one on the right in this pic:
The one that I think Rad is saying to go ahead and flush is the one below right that's flowering. My thoughts though, are that this came on so quickly that if I flush it, by the time it dries out, could it look like the one above, because that one lost its color in a matter of days. Is it far enough along that it can handle going yellow? Look at the one below that. I just took it and you can see how much more yellow it got since yesterday. If that's common for a flowering plant, then I'll relax and let it do what it's going to do. I'm just getting paranoid I guess because it's my first grow and I don't want anything to go wrong that can be fixed.
Thanks guys and tell me if I just need to take a chill pill and relax.
Dennise
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No that is not normal... I was talking about flushing that one then let her dry out a bit and start her back on 1/2 strength nutes...
Dennise
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If her leaves were turnng yellow due to flowering they would start yellowing at the bottom and turning brown and falling off and then turning a bit yellow going up the plant... it looks like either over watering or a defiecency of some sort but I would start with geting anything I could out of the soil and then replacing it with the needs of the plant.....
Dennise
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Your smaller girl... How long since she has been watered... she actually looks overwatere on the top part or root bound... How long has she been in that pot? Sorry if I have asked these questions before but I tend to jump on a lot of journals and I also have a brain injury that makes my memory terrible....
Dennise
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Yep I need some info on that little one before I start telling ya what to do here or I'm afraid I am going to just make it worse.... again I'm sorry if I have asked all this before but if ya could give me a short back story on the little one....
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JimmieJ
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Your smaller girl... How long since she has been watered... she actually looks overwatere on the top part or root bound... How long has she been in that pot? Sorry if I have asked these questions before but I tend to jump on a lot of journals and I also have a brain injury that makes my memory terrible....
I just watered them last night before lights out, but she's not overwatered. I always let them get dry - just before the edge of wilting, then water slowly till it comes out the bottom. I use a moisture meter too. She's been in that pot since transplant which I think was 1/26 and I know the pot is too small and she's got to be root bound. Feel free to ask away Dennise, and I'll fill you in the best I can.
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JimmieJ
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Yep I need some info on that little one before I start telling ya what to do here or I'm afraid I am going to just make it worse.... again I'm sorry if I have asked all this before but if ya could give me a short back story on the little one....
The little one is bag seed. Planted it 1/26, transplanted 2/21. Noticed yellowing 3/9 and it was pretty bad by 3/11. I flushed it with water from the sump pit on 3/11, added a little MG. It pretty much stabilized then and started growing some darker green bushiness on the stem. I topped it on 3/15 to see if the branches would grow out and nothing really happened since then. It's just kind of existing.