JBC Pineapple Chunk - Tangerine Dream - Barneys Farm

Mini Update:
Day 8 of Flowering
Fed Tangering Dream and Pineapple Chunk :
8ml Canna A+B
4Ml Ionic Boost
2Ml TML
All is looking really good, the Pineapple has bud sites all over the place and is nearly 5ft Tall now, seriously!! It did some serious stretching. But it has the room an all is good.
The Tangerine was a bit deff of food as it sat in water for 3 days which wasn't best, but its fed now so should be ok in 2 days.
Will post more pics in a few days.:peace:
 
everything is looking great my friend. Have you though about thinning your girls to help with light penetration? What are your plans for the future(Short term defoliation, thinning. Lst etc.)

Hi TOG, Cheers man. Funny you say that, I was thinking that last night, I was thinking of LST the tall Pineapple but dont think I have the side space for it. Think I will thin out the big pans a little bit to help light penetration like you said. I keep taking leaves of the tangerine to reveal tops to the light but keeps bushing out.
Will post some more pics tonight or tomorrow to show progress.
 
Yeah the TD will probably be a 12weeker thats cool though it's good to wait for the haze plants or any good sativa. Thats the problem where i'm from, too many people grow 8 week flowers and usually chop early and all grow the same, blues, cheese or blue cheese lol. Everyone thinks its the best weed ever, they go dam an buy the same sh~t!! Not sayin blues or cheese aren't amazing weeds, but not after it been going around for 5 year or something. A lot of people claim to know about weed an they usually kids, buts most besides the 420 crew and other growers don't know anything.
I think it good to wait a bit longer for absolute chronic and the longer flowers are usually sativas that produce a lot anyway so it works out the same usually.
 
Day 13 Flower

Here is an update of the TD PC plants, as you can see the TD, which is the small bushy one is still cal/mag deff, so gave it another feed of Coco a+b and TML. It need a foliar feed of some Epson salts i reckon which I plant to get tomorrow.
The Pineapple is doing really well! Flowering going fine and the stretch has stopped just about, finished at 5 ft! So here some pics, hopefully get the TD growing normal again in a week or so, dont need this stunted growth in flower!
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lookin good my brotha!!!

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Cheers AstonR an Godspeed, you got your camera working again astonR?,
An thanks for that godspeed will pick up some cal/mag, seen as i have none an its something you seem to need quite a lot.:Namaste:
 
Hi Jbc, everything looks great! I'm pulling up a chair and will be rooting for you all the way:cheertwo: I'm interested in both strains, as pineapple chunk is my favorite that I haven't even tried yet :) I hear a lot of great things about her tho, and will see her next year once I finish the two grows I'm on now. 12weeks flower for TD... I use to think I couldn't wait (mainly due to me not wanting to) but I'm now growing a 9-11 week Blackjack and I'm only on day 3 of veg lol waiting on BPN organics+free humate tea (just ordered, Thanks 2 Corey 4 the tea!!). I agree from research and some tasting that the long sativa grows will do nothing but reward you for your patience again and again. Wish you the best with the mixed review Canna cup winner Tangerine Dream... I'd like to try her in the future. +reps on your recovery from seedling into 5' tall and a lil shorter healthy lovely ladies!!
 
Thanks Voltron and potchimp,
Thank for +reps bro, yeah the pineapple looking awesome at the min. I had to clone them both.

Yeah it defo worth waiting for the long flower haze. Haze's are my favourite by far!! An plus will have the Pineapple to tie me over anyway, an by looks of thing the pineapple will produce a nice amount.

Will be going to grow shop tomorrow defo for some cal/mag, there's is no point letting the TD struggle now for the price of some cal/mag, quite an essential tool anyway. But to be fair the coco a+b has supplied it with a bit, gave it a heavy feed, just doesn't seem enough. I'd love to sort it and watch it catch the other one up. Is there any chance of that happening, ideas anyone?? :peace:
 
The TD deff shows up as irregular pale areas on the leaves right? I have no idea what it is but seems strange that it would be cal/mag since you've used both dolomite lime and epson salts. Maybie try and find a supplement that contains a wide spectrum of different kinds of transition metals (like zinc, managnese, magnesium, iron and maybie some others aswell) and see if the problem is still there.
 
Just found this, maybie it helps.

Nutrient Disorder Problem Solver
Version 1.1 - Feb. 1998 - distribution okay

To use the Problem-Solver, simply start at #1 below. When you think you've found the problem, read the Nutrients section to learn more about it. Diagnose carefully before making major changes.
1) If the problem affects only the bottom or middle of the plant go to #2. b) If it affects only the top of the plant or the growing tips, skip to #10. If the problem seems to affect the entire plant equally, skip to #6.
2) Leaves are a uniform yellow or light green; leaves die & drop; growth is slow. Leaf margins are not curled-up noticeably. >> Nitrogen(N) deficiency. b) If not, go to #3.
3) Margins of the leaves are turned up, and the tips may be twisted. Leaves are yellowing (and may turn brown), but the veins remain somewhat green. >> Magnesium (Mg) deficiency. b) If not, go to #4.
4) Leaves are browning or yellowing. Yellow, brown, or necrotic (dead) patches, especially around the edges of the leaf, which may be curled. Plant may be too tall. >> Potassium (K) deficiency. b) If not, keep reading.
5) Leaves are dark green or red/purple. Stems and petioles may have purple & red on them. Leaves may turn yellow or curl under. Leaf may drop easily. Growth may be slow and leaves may be small. >> Phosphorus(P) deficiency. b) If not, go to #6.
6) Tips of leaves are yellow, brown, or dead. Plant otherwise looks healthy & green. Stems may be soft >> Over-fertilization (especially N), over-watering, damaged roots, or insufficient soil aeration (use more sand or perlite. Occasionally due to not enough N, P, or K. b) If not, go to #7.
7) Leaves are curled under like a ram's horn, and are dark green, gray, brown, or gold. >> Over-fertilization (too much N). b) If not, go to #8…
8) The plant is wilted, even though the soil is moist. >> Over-fertilization, soggy soil, damaged roots, disease; copper deficiency (very unlikely). b) If not, go to #9.
9) Plants won't flower, even though they get 12 hours of darkness for over 2 weeks. >> The night period is not completely dark. Too much nitrogen. Too much pruning or cloning. b) If not, go to #10...
10) Leaves are yellow or white, but the veins are mostly green. >> Iron (Fe) deficiency. b) If not, go to #11.
11) Leaves are light green or yellow beginning at the base, while the leaf margins remain green. Necrotic spots may be between veins. Leaves are not twisted. >> Manganese (Mn) deficiency. b) If not, #12.
12) Leaves are twisted. Otherwise, pretty much like #11. >> Zinc (Zn) deficiency. b) If not, #13.
13) Leaves twist, then turn brown or die. >> The lights are too close to the plant. Rarely, a Calcium (Ca) or Boron (B) deficiency. b) If not… You may just have a weak plant.

The Nutrients:
Nitrogen - Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients. Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.
Magnesium - Mg-deficiency is pretty common since marijuana uses lots of it and many fertilizers don't have enough of it. Mg-deficiency is easily fixed with ¼ teaspoon/gallon of Epsom salts (first powdered and dissolved in some hot water) or foliar feed at ½ teaspoon/quart. When mixing up soil, use 2 teaspoon dolomite lime per gallon of soil for Mg. Mg can get locked-up by too much Ca, Cl or ammonium nitrogen. Don't overdo Mg or you'll lock up other nutrients.
Potassium - Too much sodium (Na) displaces K, causing a K deficiency. Sources of high salinity are: baking soda (sodium bicarbonate "pH-up"), too much manure, and the use of water-softening filters (which should not be used). If the problem is Na, flush the soil. K can get locked up from too much Ca or ammonium nitrogen, and possibly cold weather.
Phosphorous - Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Red petioles and stems are a normal, genetic characteristic for many varieties, plus it can also be a co-symptom of N, K, and Mg-deficiencies, so red stems are not a foolproof sign of P-deficiency. Too much P can lead to iron deficiency.
Iron - Fe is unavailable to plants when the pH of the water or soil is too high. If deficient, lower the pH to about 6.5 (for rockwool, about 5.7), and check that you're not adding too much P, which can lock up Fe. Use iron that's chelated for maximum availability. Read your fertilizer's ingredients - chelated iron might read something like "iron EDTA". To much Fe without adding enough P can cause a P-deficiency.
Manganese - Mn gets locked out when the pH is too high, and when there's too much iron. Use chelated Mn.
Zinc - Also gets locked out due to high pH. Zn, Fe, and Mn deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH. Don't overdo the micro-nutrients-lower the pH if that's the problem so the nutrients become available. Foliar feed if the plant looks real bad. Use chelated zinc.
Check Your Water - Crusty faucets and shower heads mean your water is "hard," usually due to too many minerals. Tap water with a TDS (total dissolved solids) level of more than around 200ppm (parts per million) is "hard" and should be looked into, especially if your plants have a chronic problem. Ask your water company for an analysis listing, which will usually list the pH, TDS, and mineral levels (as well as the pollutants, carcinogens, etc) for the tap water in your area. This is a common request, especially in this day and age, so it shouldn't raise an eyebrow. Regular water filters will not reduce a high TDS level, but the costlier reverse-osmosis units, distillers, and de-ionizers will. A digital TDS meter (or EC = electrical conductivity meter) is an incredibly useful tool for monitoring the nutrient levels of nutrient solution, and will pay for itself before you know it. They run about $40 and up.
General Feeding Tips - Pot plants are very adaptable, but a general rule of thumb is to use more nitrogen & less phosphorous during the vegetative period, and the exact opposite during the flowering period. For the veg. period try a N:P:K ratio of about 10-7-8 (which of course is the same ratio as 20-14-16), and for flowering plants, 4-8-8. Check the pH after adding nutrients. If you use a reservoir, keep it circulating and change it every 2 weeks. A general guideline for TDS levels is as follows:
seedlings = 50-150 ppm; unrooted clones = 100-350 ppm; small plants = 400-800 ppm; large plants = 900-1800 ppm; last week of flowering = taper off to plain water. These numbers are just a guideline, and many factors can change the actual level the plants will need. Certain nutrients are "invisible" to TDS meters, especially organics, so use TDS level only as an estimate of actual nutrient levels. When in doubt about a new fertilizer, follow the fertilizer's directions for feeding tomatoes. Grow a few tomato or radish plants nearby for comparison.
PH - The pH of water after adding any nutrients should be around 5.9-6.5 (in rockwool, 5.5-6.1). Generally speaking, the micro-nutrients (Fe, Zn, Mn, Cu) get locked out at a high pH (alkaline) above 7.0, while the major nutrients (N, P, K, Mg) can be less available in acidic soil or water (below 5.0). Tap water is often too alkaline. Soils with lots of peat or other organic matter in them tend to get too acidic, which some dolomite lime will help fix. Soil test kits vary in accuracy, and generally the more you pay the better the accuracy. For the water, color-based pH test kits from aquarium stores are inexpensive, but inaccurate. Invest in a digital pH meter ($40-80), preferably a waterproof one. You won't regret it.
Cold - Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can lock up phosphorous. Some
varieties, like equatorial sativas, don't take well to cold weather. If you can keep the roots warmer, the plant will be able to take cooler temps than it otherwise could.
Heat - If the lights are too close to the plant, the tops may be curled, dry, and look burnt, mimicking a nutrient problem. Your hand should not feel hot after a minute when you hold it at the top of the plants. Raise the lights and/or aim a fan at the hot zone. Room temps should be kept under 85F (29C) -- or 90F (33) if you add additional CO2.
Humidity - Thin, shriveled leaves can be from low humidity. 40-80 % is usually fine.
Mold and Fungus - Dark patchy areas on leaves and buds can be mold. Lower the humidity and increase the ventilation if mold is a problem. Remove any dead leaves, wherever they are. Keep your garden clean.
Insects - White spots on the tops of leaves can mean spider mites
underneath.
Sprays - Foliar sprays can have a "magnifying glass" effect under bright lights, causing small white, yellow or burnt spots which can be confused with a nutrient problem. Some sprays can also cause chemical reactions.
Insufficient light - tall, stretching plants are usually from using the wrong kind of light.. Don't use regular incandescent bulbs ("grow bulbs") or halogens to grow cannabis. Invest in fluorescent lighting (good) or HID lighting (much better) which supply the high-intensity light
that cannabis needs for good growth and tight buds. Even better, grow in sunlight.
Clones - yellowing leaves on unrooted clones can be from too much light, or the stem may not be firmly touching the rooting medium. Turn off any CO2 until they root. Too much fertilizer can shrivel or wilt clones - plain tap water is fine.

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Easy Inkdot, Thanks for that deff table, I use it quite a lot, thanks for putting it in my journal its really handy. Its this chart that pointed me to zinc last night, along with the table in my blog.

It may still be cal/mag as I haven't used epson salts yet. I say i'm going to pick things up but usually get high lol. I'm going grow shop today so i will pick up some cal/mag anyway and speak to grow shop.

The thing is my pH is fine and the Tangerine is fine and the coco a+b has all elements in it. It started after a flush and has cleared up a bit since 2 feeds of a+b, so maybe it just needs more food.:peace:
 
Just picked up some Advanced Nutrients Sensi Bloom a+b as I need a bloom and it had a higher concentrate of cal/mag in it. Apparently I've read advanced nutes are really good and 100% money back if your not happy, which is reassuring.

Seen the TD today when I gave them both 4ml of a+b each, things are looking better the new lime green is turning darker green again. Must of just needed the feed.

The Pineapple is looking amazing!! The trics are growing down the stem now and can't even count the number of bud sites. she's too big lol!!! I'll get some bud pics up for Christmas.:peace:
 
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