I see the east and west coast temps but since Russia is tilting slowly to the north pole, i had 34°f this morning at Abbott's watering hole .
InTheShed Grows Inside & Out: Jump In Any Time
- Thread starter
- #36,542
Saturday update because it was transplant day here on day 18 for The Wizard and Pellezino Cookies.
If you haven't noticed, we have a new sponsor here at 420mag, and it's none other than our own Justin Goody, now known as @Bean Genie! His beans are available at Bean Genie Automatics and his intro journal is here:
Check out the thread, the site, and the genetics for sure!
So why do I mention it (other than the fact that it's cool and exciting and new)? Because The Wizard auto is one of his creations. And so, on to the transplants...
Here was The Wizard from @Bean Genie before the move to a 5 gallon cloth pot:
And the roots:
Into the new pot it goes:
I put a moat around the original rootball so that the water stays close rather than wetting a lot of soil where there are no roots yet.
The Pellezino Cookies from @Original Sensible Seeds before the move:
The roots, and I'm wondering if GDB has any thoughts on the comparison between the two plants' roots now that we're almost three weeks in:
Just a 1 gallon pot for this one since it's a photoperiod and will eventually get a 7 gallon pot:
And finally, tucked in the tent:
I learned my lesson from last winter and have saucers under them rather than having the water separate the shine from the black on the tent liner.
Since they're both looking a little pale with a deficiency starting, I gave them both 4.5g/gallon. Looks like I wasn't ramping the numbers up as quickly as I usually do since they're still so short compared to my usual plants this age. I saw them as younger than they are.
I'm sure they'll be fine now that they're getting properly fed.
That's it for me, and thanks for checking in.
Quotes:
If you haven't noticed, we have a new sponsor here at 420mag, and it's none other than our own Justin Goody, now known as @Bean Genie! His beans are available at Bean Genie Automatics and his intro journal is here:
Check out the thread, the site, and the genetics for sure!
So why do I mention it (other than the fact that it's cool and exciting and new)? Because The Wizard auto is one of his creations. And so, on to the transplants...
Here was The Wizard from @Bean Genie before the move to a 5 gallon cloth pot:
And the roots:
Into the new pot it goes:
I put a moat around the original rootball so that the water stays close rather than wetting a lot of soil where there are no roots yet.
The Pellezino Cookies from @Original Sensible Seeds before the move:
The roots, and I'm wondering if GDB has any thoughts on the comparison between the two plants' roots now that we're almost three weeks in:
Just a 1 gallon pot for this one since it's a photoperiod and will eventually get a 7 gallon pot:
And finally, tucked in the tent:
I learned my lesson from last winter and have saucers under them rather than having the water separate the shine from the black on the tent liner.
Since they're both looking a little pale with a deficiency starting, I gave them both 4.5g/gallon. Looks like I wasn't ramping the numbers up as quickly as I usually do since they're still so short compared to my usual plants this age. I saw them as younger than they are.
I'm sure they'll be fine now that they're getting properly fed.That's it for me, and thanks for checking in.
Quotes:
I'm sorry to hear you're going through a rough patch, and I think you have probably offended the least number of folks on the site of anyone ever. It's always nice to have you here, and you are one of the longest running subs on this journal no matter what name you're signing in under.
Brrrrr! The world turned upside down.
Chuckeye
Well-Known Member
Cheers, eh ?
- Thread starter
- #36,544
to my perpetual grow journal Chuckeye, and I don't think I knew you were Canadian!
Lovely!Saturday update because it was transplant day here on day 18 for The Wizard and Pellezino Cookies.
If you haven't noticed, we have a new sponsor here at 420mag, and it's none other than our own Justin Goody, now known as @Bean Genie! His beans are available at Bean Genie Automatics and his intro journal is here:
Check out the thread, the site, and the genetics for sure!
So why do I mention it (other than the fact that it's cool and exciting and new)? Because The Wizard auto is one of his creations. And so, on to the transplants...
Here was The Wizard from @Bean Genie before the move to a 5 gallon cloth pot:
And the roots:
Into the new pot it goes:
I put a moat around the original rootball so that the water stays close rather than wetting a lot of soil where there are no roots yet.
The Pellezino Cookies from @Original Sensible Seeds before the move:
The roots, and I'm wondering if GDB has any thoughts on the comparison between the two plants' roots now that we're almost three weeks in:
Just a 1 gallon pot for this one since it's a photoperiod and will eventually get a 7 gallon pot:
And finally, tucked in the tent:
under.
Brrrrr! The world turned upside down.
I’m excited to see it grow side by side with a photo- I think
Nine Toed Hippie
Well-Known Member
Can’t wait to see what you do with these two girls Shed. Looking great.Saturday update because it was transplant day here on day 18 for The Wizard and Pellezino Cookies.
If you haven't noticed, we have a new sponsor here at 420mag, and it's none other than our own Justin Goody, now known as @Bean Genie! His beans are available at Bean Genie Automatics and his intro journal is here:
Check out the thread, the site, and the genetics for sure!
So why do I mention it (other than the fact that it's cool and exciting and new)? Because The Wizard auto is one of his creations. And so, on to the transplants...
Here was The Wizard from @Bean Genie before the move to a 5 gallon cloth pot:
And the roots:
Into the new pot it goes:
I put a moat around the original rootball so that the water stays close rather than wetting a lot of soil where there are no roots yet.
The Pellezino Cookies from @Original Sensible Seeds before the move:
The roots, and I'm wondering if GDB has any thoughts on the comparison between the two plants' roots now that we're almost three weeks in:
Just a 1 gallon pot for this one since it's a photoperiod and will eventually get a 7 gallon pot:
And finally, tucked in the tent:
I learned my lesson from last winter and have saucers under them rather than having the water separate the shine from the black on the tent liner.
Since they're both looking a little pale with a deficiency starting, I gave them both 4.5g/gallon. Looks like I wasn't ramping the numbers up as quickly as I usually do since they're still so short compared to my usual plants this age. I saw them as younger than they are.
That's it for me, and thanks for checking in.
Quotes:
I'm sorry to hear you're going through a rough patch, and I think you have probably offended the least number of folks on the site of anyone ever. It's always nice to have you here, and you are one of the longest running subs on this journal no matter what name you're signing in under.
Brrrrr! The world turned upside down.
NTH
- Thread starter
- #36,547
Thanks NTH! Still trying to find the key to growing inside, one winter at a time.
Chuckeye
Well-Known Member
From the Great Frozen North
Figured i should quit lurking and jump in here
Cheers
Nice job on the refits. They both look dead-center in the new pots!
I certainly do have a thought on the current difference in the roots! Thanks for asking!
I thought the auto roots looked "fuzzier" a few days back and I think they still do. But the photo's roots are outpacing their production volume-wise.
The fuzzy root auto is prepping to flower sooner. The photo roots are awaiting their signal to do so. They're in no hurry.
That being said, the Wiz will probably run for about 14 days longer than the Pellezinos!
I certainly do have a thought on the current difference in the roots! Thanks for asking!
I thought the auto roots looked "fuzzier" a few days back and I think they still do. But the photo's roots are outpacing their production volume-wise.
The fuzzy root auto is prepping to flower sooner. The photo roots are awaiting their signal to do so. They're in no hurry.
That being said, the Wiz will probably run for about 14 days longer than the Pellezinos!
Thanks for mentioning this!
And this changes up my spring grow plans LOL. I popping of now to make a purchase. Have to support the “locals” and all
Edit: they are all autos
I can add to my current grow and be fine and I have to room!! Woot woot!Looking good there Shed!!!
TequilaSIPr
Well-Known Member
No dr. B’s will it still workAfter many weeks of testing, I'm here to offer my endorsement of 0.3% canola oil spray for powdery mildew (PM). And to break it all down for you, here is the Thursday update (after you've congratulated @Grand Daddy Black for his triple OTM win last night...I'll wait!).
Text, then pictorial:
As I mentioned back in March, I discovered a South Korean study from 2008 and seems well-researched and documented, and on the plus side, it's written in mostly non-technical language, dealing in percentages and ml rather than molecular weights and such:
https://circadiancropsciences.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/PM-and-DM-Control-Cooking-Oil.pdf
My post on it is here in case you missed it. Might be worth your time if you get PM.
[BACKGROUND: Normally I use neem oil in veg for PM, but that leaves me searching for another solution in flower. I had tried milk and H2O2 (neither of which were effective for me), citric acid (which worked but did some leaf and pistil damage), and potassium bicarbonate (which I found created more damage and seemed less effective than citric acid). Also, neem isn't even available for plants in Canada or the UK, which makes canola oil a viable alternative during all stages of growth for those members of the Commonwealth.
The testing process I used started by letting PM grow on a couple of my Candida plants to use as test subjects. Once I had enough of the plants covered in PM I sprayed the mother with the canola oil mix and let the other one go. I kept them mostly in the shade during this time to prevent the heat or sun from affecting the PM growth, and I sprayed every 5 days as listed in the study.
Because I had let the leaves get so covered with PM I ended up having to spray every 3 days (to runoff) until it was gone, but it definitely worked. And after it was gone, every 5 days seemed to keep it away.
Once I was satisfied with that I needed to wait for some pistils to try it out on to see what it would do there.
Here is the flower I chose to spray with the 0.3% canola oil mix:
I sprayed it and made sure it was shaded until it dried.
Here is the same flower 72 hours later
Now, you are correct if you see some browning of the ends of the pistils, but here is a nearby flower that didn't get sprayed:
And an unsprayed top flower:
So you can see that the pistils are starting to brown across the plant rather than specifically from the canola oil. I will spray it again this weekend to see if every 5 days accelerates the browning effect. But either way, a little browning of the pistils seems like a reasonable trade-off for the treatment of PM on your flowering plants.
Also, spraying almost anything on the flowers will tend to brown the pistils somewhat, so if you have to spray, spray something that works!
All that said, here is how I went about making my 0.3% canola oil spray. Keep in mind that the beauty of the metric system is that it's easily scaleable.
500ml of distilled water:
I don't trust any single set of measuring lines so I made sure that the 500ml mark on the spray bottle was the same as the .5L line on the blender:
After that I needed the canola oil:
But really hardly any, so a small syringe is needed to get 1.5ml:
Here is the canola oil in water:
Oil and water don't stay mixed for long, even with a blender, so I used Dr Bronner's unscented castile soap as an emulsifier:
It took only 2 drops using this pipette I had on hand, though you could also use the same syringe from the oil:
After running the blender for a minute, here is the result:
I poured it into the spray bottle and sprayed down the plant in the shade.
Even though it's blended and emulsified, I still do a lot of shaking of the bottle to make sure before and in between sprays.
I'm now making 1L batches since that's as much as my blender will hold (3ml oil, 4 drops Dr B's), and if I end up with a lot of PM this fall I'll be doing four 1L batches to fill my gallon sprayer.
That's it from me, and I hope this helps someone out with their PM problem!
- Thread starter
- #36,552
LOL there will be no comparison between the two, especially since I'll be trying to slow the PC down.
IKR? I work so hard at that and still miss more often than not.
Interesting! Not sure how to prove that autos get fuzzy roots as they prep for flower other than running a bunch of different varieties of autos and photos side by side in clear cups and see if it's consistent across varieties within the photoperiod type. That's beyond what I can manage but anyone interested should feel free.
Longer at what stage?
Noice! I'm glad to be able to spread the love to our new sponsor.
I use Dr Bronner's because it's very mild, but any non-Dawn, non-detergent dish soap should work. It's a really small amount after all. Oh yeah, and
to my perpetual grow journal TSIP, even if it was just to pop in with a question!
I'm extra glad you're into Genie genes this run! I bought some and will try them out this summer in pots outside. Never up potted an auto before. Nice changes! Mmmmmm those roots!
I meant overall, but that comment was made tongue in cheek.
Nice up pot Shed, are you doing any training on the auto?Saturday update because it was transplant day here on day 18 for The Wizard and Pellezino Cookies.
If you haven't noticed, we have a new sponsor here at 420mag, and it's none other than our own Justin Goody, now known as @Bean Genie! His beans are available at Bean Genie Automatics and his intro journal is here:
Check out the thread, the site, and the genetics for sure!
So why do I mention it (other than the fact that it's cool and exciting and new)? Because The Wizard auto is one of his creations. And so, on to the transplants...
Here was The Wizard from @Bean Genie before the move to a 5 gallon cloth pot:
And the roots:
Into the new pot it goes:
I put a moat around the original rootball so that the water stays close rather than wetting a lot of soil where there are no roots yet.
The Pellezino Cookies from @Original Sensible Seeds before the move:
The roots, and I'm wondering if GDB has any thoughts on the comparison between the two plants' roots now that we're almost three weeks in:
Just a 1 gallon pot for this one since it's a photoperiod and will eventually get a 7 gallon pot:
And finally, tucked in the tent:
I learned my lesson from last winter and have saucers under them rather than having the water separate the shine from the black on the tent liner.
Since they're both looking a little pale with a deficiency starting, I gave them both 4.5g/gallon. Looks like I wasn't ramping the numbers up as quickly as I usually do since they're still so short compared to my usual plants this age. I saw them as younger than they are.
That's it for me, and thanks for checking in.
Quotes:
I'm sorry to hear you're going through a rough patch, and I think you have probably offended the least number of folks on the site of anyone ever. It's always nice to have you here, and you are one of the longest running subs on this journal no matter what name you're signing in under.
Brrrrr! The world turned upside down.
smokesbetter
Well-Known Member
Nice to see a member go to sponsor , the Wizard looks to have some goodness going on for sure !
Looking great Shedster, like always brother!
Thanks for the memories as you sent me to @AngryBird thread. I started the thread but my copy and paste is toast for some reason .
Dr Bonner on stand by over here to .
Girls in the up pot looking great .
Dr Bonner on stand by over here to .
Girls in the up pot looking great .
TequilaSIPr
Well-Known Member
Sorry shed i hate to be that friend that only pops up when i need something 
i think stone had linked me to your canola oil formula for my PM problem just got her back i used a mister sprayer over the whole plant at lights out Thanks
i think stone had linked me to your canola oil formula for my PM problem just got her back i used a mister sprayer over the whole plant at lights out Thanks- Thread starter
- #36,560
Thanks Otter, and Genie genes FTW! I've been singing this song since I learned of the new business name.
I figured but wasn't sure of the reference.
Thank you con, and I'd love to get some training in if there was something big enough to get a hand on.
IKR? That Wizard is behaving wonderfully this go round.
Thanks Sparkey!
No worries TSIP, you can visit for any reason at all! I hope the canola oil spray works as well for you as it did for me. I'll be mixing some up this weekend and spraying the new plants as a preventative.