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Another Monday top of the page update (amazing how that worked out ;) ) on the Purple Ghost Candy from @SeedsMan!

And another set of pics on how I train my plants (since they seem to be going over well).

Sunday (day 47) showed me enough growth of the top nodes to start the training. Here's a pic to show about how long they need to be:


They aren't long enough to tie down yet, but they are long enough to get StankClips® around. StankClips are a technique I first saw @Van Stank use years back and have found it really helpful to get the training started early. They're just small pieces of pipe cleaner that attach the top node branches to the fan leaf that grows from their base:


You can see that there's not much of a bend there since the leaves aren't close to horizontal, but since they're big enough to tie to the pot lip, I do that with pipe cleaners and binder clips. Here are the top pipe cleaners looped around the petioles of the fan leaves:


It's important to be very gentle at this stage, with the pipe cleaners barely causing a bend in those top node branches. You can see the slack in the pipe cleaners as they attach to the binder clip on the pot's lip:


And from the front to show both sides:


Here's what it looks like from above:


Finally, every morning I shorten the length of the pipe cleaners and pull those top fan leaves a little flatter, until the top nodes are horizontal.


I will also be sliding the StankClips out along the branches as they grow, until they're long enough to tie down on their own.

That's it for today, and thanks for following along! :ciao:
 
And here's the rest of the grow update!

Sunday was also time to top the CapJunky (day 44) and I believe it's above the ninth node.

Before:

After:


The top:


You can see that the top node isn't long enough for StankClips yet, but that will be the next move on those as well.

I also soaked three Candida seeds from the latest project:


24 hours later, two had split:


So I thought I'd plant all three directly in soil rather than waste peat pucks on plants I'll be throwing out:


Now we wait (we do that a lot, don't we?).

In other news, a cricket is noshing on my summer grow plants in the tent:


I shook him off outside and hope he's moved on to less important plants!

That's it from here. There's still time to get yourself or others into this month's contests (with some fab sponsor prizes), so jump on that. :)

I hope your weekend was a blast and the week to come is bright and shiny! 💍
 
Another Monday top of the page update (amazing how that worked out ;) ) on the Purple Ghost Candy from @SeedsMan!

And another set of pics on how I train my plants (since they seem to be going over well).

Sunday (day 47) showed me enough growth of the top nodes to start the training. Here's a pic to show about how long they need to be:


They aren't long enough to tie down yet, but they are long enough to get StankClips® around. StankClips are a technique I first saw @Van Stank use years back and have found it really helpful to get the training started early. They're just small pieces of pipe cleaner that attach the top node branches to the fan leaf that grows from their base:


You can see that there's not much of a bend there since the leaves aren't close to horizontal, but since they're big enough to tie to the pot lip, I do that with pipe cleaners and binder clips. Here are the top pipe cleaners looped around the petioles of the fan leaves:


It's important to be very gentle at this stage, with the pipe cleaners barely causing a bend in those top node branches. You can see the slack in the pipe cleaners as they attach to the binder clip on the pot's lip:


And from the front to show both sides:


Here's what it looks like from above:


Finally, every morning I shorten the length of the pipe cleaners and pull those top fan leaves a little flatter, until the top nodes are horizontal.


I will also be sliding the StankClips out along the branches as they grow, until they're long enough to tie down on their own.

That's it for today, and thanks for following along! :ciao:
WooHoo!

You are a Gift 🎁 that keeps on giving!

What a McFreakingAwesome Tutorial! ❤️

I will Bet the seeds grow as good as any you have grown before!
 
And here's the rest of the grow update!

Sunday was also time to top the CapJunky (day 44) and I believe it's above the ninth node.

Before:

After:


The top:


You can see that the top node isn't long enough for StankClips yet, but that will be the next move on those as well.

I also soaked three Candida seeds from the latest project:


24 hours later, two had split:


So I thought I'd plant all three directly in soil rather than waste peat pucks on plants I'll be throwing out:


Now we wait (we do that a lot, don't we?).

In other news, a cricket is noshing on my summer grow plants in the tent:


I shook him off outside and hope he's moved on to less important plants!

That's it from here. There's still time to get yourself or others into this month's contests (with some fab sponsor prizes), so jump on that. :)

I hope your weekend was a blast and the week to come is bright and shiny! 💍
Hi Mr Shed,
Im curious about your topping technique. I have no set opinion of how to go about it. You are topping at the 9th node. Is this for outdoor or indoor growing? Will you continue to top the branches or is there just one topping?
Also pleased to see you catch and release the dang crickets. Obviously he was just in the wrong place.
 
You are a Gift that keeps on giving!
What a McFreakingAwesome Tutorial!
I will Bet the seeds grow as good as any you have grown before!
What kind words, thanks MedSci! And I hope those seeds come up quick and strong so I can just as quickly trash them and get some seeds out to folks in need. :)
Hi Mr Shed,
Im curious about your topping technique. I have no set opinion of how to go about it. You are topping at the 9th node. Is this for outdoor or indoor growing? Will you continue to top the branches or is there just one topping?
Also pleased to see you catch and release the dang crickets. Obviously he was just in the wrong place.
Hey Stonecrusher and :welcome: to my perpetual! When to top is really grow-dependent so I don't suggest anyone pick a number from where I do mine. I only top once, and it's usually above the 8th or 9th nodes because height isn't a big issue for me since my plants are grown outside all day (inside at night with some supplemental lighting to keep them in veg, or no light at all for flowering). My only height constraint is carrying them through the door twice a day, so as long as I can bend over a bit while carrying them I can let them get pretty tall.

In a tent, most folks will top lower to keep the correct distance to the light, but the type training I do can be done no matter where they're topped or where they're grown.
 
Great update!! Stank clamps, little green grasshoppers and the #nolarf train chooo chooo!!
 
The top:

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CapJunky day 44
You can see that the top node isn't long enough for StankClips yet, but that will be the next move on those as well.
I'm sure plenty will call me crazy for this, but I like to eat good trimmings like this one... honestly I do.
I Love My Girls... :smokin:
 
Another Monday top of the page update (amazing how that worked out ;) ) on the Purple Ghost Candy from @SeedsMan!

And another set of pics on how I train my plants (since they seem to be going over well).

Sunday (day 47) showed me enough growth of the top nodes to start the training. Here's a pic to show about how long they need to be:


They aren't long enough to tie down yet, but they are long enough to get StankClips® around. StankClips are a technique I first saw @Van Stank use years back and have found it really helpful to get the training started early. They're just small pieces of pipe cleaner that attach the top node branches to the fan leaf that grows from their base:


You can see that there's not much of a bend there since the leaves aren't close to horizontal, but since they're big enough to tie to the pot lip, I do that with pipe cleaners and binder clips. Here are the top pipe cleaners looped around the petioles of the fan leaves:


It's important to be very gentle at this stage, with the pipe cleaners barely causing a bend in those top node branches. You can see the slack in the pipe cleaners as they attach to the binder clip on the pot's lip:


And from the front to show both sides:


Here's what it looks like from above:


Finally, every morning I shorten the length of the pipe cleaners and pull those top fan leaves a little flatter, until the top nodes are horizontal.


I will also be sliding the StankClips out along the branches as they grow, until they're long enough to tie down on their own.

That's it for today, and thanks for following along! :ciao:
OK, so can you, or someone, explain to me the benefits of "training" like you're doing when it's outdoors? I fully understand why things like this are done when growing indoors... but what are the benefits of doing this outdoors?
I Love My Girls... :smokin:
 
LOL! Yes U do! But with ur expertise, it's a good thing.
I sure hope so!
I'm sure plenty will call me crazy for this, but I like to eat good trimmings like this one... honestly I do.
There are supposed to be a number of benefits to eating raw cannabis as well as THCa, but I can barely eat lettuce so I tossed that.
OK, so can you, or someone, explain to me the benefits of "training" like you're doing when it's outdoors? I fully understand why things like this are done when growing indoors... but what are the benefits of doing this outdoors?
You mean why would I need a flat canopy when the sun is covering the plant from bottom to top? It's more about auxins (growth hormones) than it is about access to light, so I do it as part of the quest for bigger tops and a #nolarf harvest.

If I can get all my branch ends to be at or very close to the canopy, they will share the entirety of the plant's auxins in flower, meaning that there will be no apical cola, just a large collection of equal sized flowers.

And by eliminating all the larf in flower and only keeping the flowers that will connect to form the "top" at harvest, I hope to have maximized the size of those colas, leaving nothing small to trim.

I don't claim that training and thinning a plant for a #nolarf harvest will increase yield, since it's possible that the larf + the upper flowers would have equaled more than just the final top flower weigh. I just despise spending hours and hours trimming little bits of stuff growing below the tops.

For example, if you take a look at my 5 Killer Cookies last fall, it looked like this deep into flower:

full


Here it is with the supports off at harvest:

full


You can already see that there is no larf on this plant, and not even very many small colas. There are interior branches that I probably could have taken off after stretch (seen below), but as you can see in the first pic, it wasn't easy to get access to the interior of that thing!

Here it was hanging after chop and trim:

full


That's all of it. No other flowers further down the branches. The training I'm doing now is the first step for me to get to these kinds of results (not the size necessarily, just the lack of larf).

One last point: thinning after stretch for #nolarf is much more challenging in a plant with a true sativa flower structure. Some of those plants are all larf!

Hope that helps!
IKR? Could it explain the nice growth? Who's to say. :hmmmm:
 
I sure hope so!

There are supposed to be a number of benefits to eating raw cannabis as well as THCa, but I can barely eat lettuce so I tossed that.

You mean why would I need a flat canopy when the sun is covering the plant from bottom to top? It's more about auxins (growth hormones) than it is about access to light, so I do it as part of the quest for bigger tops and a #nolarf harvest.

If I can get all my branch ends to be at or very close to the canopy, they will share the entirety of the plant's auxins in flower, meaning that there will be no apical cola, just a large collection of equal sized flowers.

And by eliminating all the larf in flower and only keeping the flowers that will connect to form the "top" at harvest, I hope to have maximized the size of those colas, leaving nothing small to trim.

I don't claim that training and thinning a plant for a #nolarf harvest will increase yield, since it's possible that the larf + the upper flowers would have equaled more than just the final top flower weigh. I just despise spending hours and hours trimming little bits of stuff growing below the tops.

For example, if you take a look at my 5 Killer Cookies last fall, it looked like this deep into flower:

full


Here it is with the supports off at harvest:

full


You can already see that there is no larf on this plant, and not even very many small colas. There are interior branches that I probably could have taken off after stretch (seen below), but as you can see in the first pic, it wasn't easy to get access to the interior of that thing!

Here it is hanging after chop:

full


That's all of it. No other flowers further down the branches. The training I'm doing now is the first step for me to get to these kinds of results (not the size necessarily, just the lack of larf).

One last point: thinning after stretch for #nolarf is much more challenging in a plant with a true sativa flower structure. Some of those plants are all larf!

Hope that helps!

IKR? Could it explain the nice growth? Who's to say. :hmmmm:
WooHoo!

Darn InTheShed, There you go again! ❤️
 
I sure hope so!
:rofl: Yes, yes... all in good fun.
There are supposed to be a number of benefits to eating raw cannabis as well as THCa, but I can barely eat lettuce so I tossed that.
I simply love to eat fresh leaves. I've even juiced them, like wheatgrass juice. So good! :yummy:
You mean why would I need a flat canopy when the sun is covering the plant from bottom to top?
Yes, exactly what I meant... spot on. :thanks:
It's more about auxins (growth hormones) than it is about access to light, so I do it as part of the quest for bigger tops and a #nolarf harvest.

If I can get all my branch ends to be at or very close to the canopy, they will share the entirety of the plant's auxins in flower, meaning that there will be no apical cola, just a large collection of equal sized flowers.
Fascinating! :D
And by eliminating all the larf in flower and only keeping the flowers that will connect to form the "top" at harvest, I hope to have maximized the size of those colas, leaving nothing small to trim.
I've always been told to not trim to heavily during flowering, as it can stall progress. I'm not saying I know anything, I admit my ignorance, it's just I've always been told that the more leaves equals more energy for the plant to put into the buds. BIDK
I don't claim that training and thinning a plant for a #nolarf harvest will increase yield, since it's possible that the larf + the upper flowers would have equaled more than just the final top flower weigh. I just despise spending hours and hours trimming little bits of stuff growing below the tops.
Agreed. I hate hours and hours of trimming as much as you.
For example, if you take a look at my 5 Killer Cookies last fall, it looked like this deep into flower:

full
That's a lot of flower... and big ones too!!! Wow!
Here it is with the supports off at harvest:

full


You can already see that there is no larf on this plant, and not even very many small colas. There are interior branches that I probably could have taken off after stretch (seen below), but as you can see in the first pic, it wasn't easy to get access to the interior of that thing!

Here it is hanging after chop:

full


That's all of it. No other flowers further down the branches. The training I'm doing now is the first step for me to get to these kinds of results (not the size necessarily, just the lack of larf).
Looks like good size increases, all the same.
One last point: thinning after stretch for #nolarf is much more challenging in a plant with a true sativa flower structure. Some of those plants are all larf!
So maybe not getting my hopes up on my sativas?
Hope that helps!
Yes! Tons!!! :thanks:
I Love My Girls... :smokin:
 
I've always been told to not trim to heavily during flowering, as it can stall progress. I'm not saying I know anything, I admit my ignorance, it's just I've always been told that the more leaves equals more energy for the plant to put into the buds. BIDK
I never take fans in flower, only buds. My feeling is that taking fans 1. forces the plant to produce new ones (waste of energy in flower) and 2. leaves the plant with fewer solar panels to process the light as well as removing possible nutrient sources later in flower.
So maybe not getting my hopes up on my sativas?
To be honest I have never grown a plant that looks like that even though I have tried! I've grown a number of varieties just called "sativa" but they tend to look like every other plant I grow. Maybe someday...
Yes! Tons!!!
Excellent!
 
Some lovely pruning posts that you've done Shed. I was stunned at the pile of foliage you took off the Candida mother and she's looking great and responding well to the PM oil treatment.

Nice to see pics of the 5 killer cookies again, wow, what a spear heavy striking looking plant she was!

I must say, well done too on the POTM, that is a really lovely picture. :thumb:
 
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