I’m sure with some of the Shedmeister’s imagination that you can create something that’ll be better than a getaway. lol CLHar! We actually have a pretty egalitarian marriage, so I'm sure she'd just like us to have a nice dinner somewhere when she gets back. I was going to suggest a weekend away but she's pretty much blown through the travel budget!
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Congratulations on the harvest, those buds are awesome. So kief, eh? May I make a suggestion? I can pretty much promise you that you will like your results a lot better if you used a finer screen. I also started doing this with an 80. I got the same thing you got here - kief that is great, but has green from leaf in it. The 80 allows too much leaf matter into the kief, which F’s up the taste. My Trim Bin has a 150 I believe. I bought a small screen at 200 to try it and it’s too small for screening kief. But 80’is too big. So maybe try a 150? If you get the kief with no leaf matter it will come out almost white. This is what you want. The cleaner the better. I do first pass and second pass usually with a batch. I compare the two. Inevitably the second pass is greener, even if only slightly. It shows up well under LED. I try to keep only first pass, or only screen as long as it stays white. Then it goes in bags for edibles. The other hint is, wait until you have a large-ish, super dry batch of trim, then freeze it overnight. In the morning screen it directly out of the freezer. The yield will double sometimes. And it’s the most efficient way I’ve found to max the first pass, ie, the gold. Last thing is, when you screen, I find it most effective to rotate in circles on a pile, while pressing down gently. The key is to not press too hard. If possible you’re trying to get the kief without creating dust. Once it’s ground that small you have no shot at clean end product.Wee hours of Sunday update! Saturday was 7 days since I chopped the 5 Killer Cookies, so it was time to cut them off the branches and get them in bags. The RH has been ideal in my house with a high of 71% and a low of 59%, so I wasn't worried about over-drying them this time.
Here are most of the tops:
And here is a close-up that double bud I mentioned in the early days of flower:
I didn't need to put a stick in to separate them after all!
No idea where my turkey bags have gone so I to buy new ones and they're much bigger than my last ones, so I fit the whole harvest in two bags:
A few hours later the RH had stabilized to some pretty good numbers:
No matter what the total weight ends up being, it's a heck of a lot easier (and with much more bud/oxygen exposure) using these versus however many jars this would take:
And for the first time I decided to take my trim and kief it, using an 80 mesh screen:
I did it in about 5 or 6 batches and rubbed it back and forth over the screen after breaking it up with my fingers. Here's what it looked like in the bowl (sharpie for reference!):
And here it is in a small jar I had on hand:
I didn't get a weight, should I bother?
That's it for me! I gotta get some sleep, so I hope your football team wins later today.
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You can infer whatever you like! I am no expert in bottom watering plants, and my-top watered plants in cloth pots have roots evenly distributed through the soil.
If you were planting in the ground where the top dries out faster and the lower roots stay damp, then you would probably see more roots down in the moisture zone. I don't know if Otter does a rootopsy on his canna-trees, but it he does dig them up, he could answer that question!
Those top roots seem to be a direct result of bottom watering from the get-go. Thanks sb!
Oh that's interesting!
Probably the same because your water was actually wicking up from the res, as opposed to mine...
Thank you Boo! I'm sure the reason it was that big was the fact that it was basically a hydro grow, and they get huge fast. :zoom:
Oh yeah - 2 cents on bottoms watering - with the Pink Rozay this grow, only on this plant, I used no drip tray in the bottom catch tray. I sat the cloth pot of coco directly in the catch tray. I always water coco to runoff, and I tried just watering her once in the morning then letting her suck up the runoff ash the day goes and she could. Every day she drained it by the next morning. I halfway think it’s part of why that plant got so big. No conclusions, but I’ll try it again.
Don't the numbers go the other way?
This interests me. Gee64 theorizes that a variation of this may be the best way to water a swick.
The wicked liquid just being overflow from top watering vanilla style?
As I understand it, I think yes.
Next 420 party at my house!
Makes sense. Gee is an organic grower so his would be soil. I must talk to him more about it.I can sort of think how that might be good or bad.
Good:
Two root systems - normal and hydro! Livin’ the dream!
Bad:
Depends on a bunch of factors.
Medium - Coco - Ph it to say 5.8 in fine but it can come out at 4.0, is this good or bad, maybe it helps the micro nute uptake sitting stewing away there. Maybe it does somewhat less than help and plant dies by Ph witchfuckery.
Medium - Soil - here I like it better, its like a second or third bite of the cherry that accumulates down low to be called on as required? Up those super efficient hydro roots. Or it overwaters and dies.
Any of that make sense?
Correct HG. Sorry for any confusion.
It does, but I have the opposite take actually. I’d worry more about it in soil. The runoff from my coco girls is not hardly different than what goes in, ie, 5.8. I think that is the case with coco as it’s inert? So sucking up the runoff as the day went wouldn’t have messed up her PH. (And it didn’t). Versus soil. I’d be more worried about uptaking significantly different PH water in soil, although if we’re talking organic it wouldn’t matter at all, just for chem nutes. I dunno. I’m going off the cuff here.I can sort of think how that might be good or bad.
Good:
Two root systems - normal and hydro! Livin’ the dream!
Bad:
Depends on a bunch of factors.
Medium - Coco - Ph it to say 5.8 in fine but it can come out at 4.0, is this good or bad, maybe it helps the micro nute uptake sitting stewing away there. Maybe it does somewhat less than help and plant dies by Ph witchfuckery.
Medium - Soil - here I like it better, its like a second or third bite of the cherry that accumulates down low to be called on as required? Up those super efficient hydro roots. Or it overwaters and dies.
Any of that make sense?
I know that whenever I’ve grown soil, whether organic or chem nutes, I always took great pains to clear the drip trays or make sure the plants were up on risers cuz I didn’t want the cloth pots sitting in the runoff. But I a currently growing soil organic, and now I’m considering trying it. PH being irrelevant, how could it hurt? Just cuz the bottom roots would stay wetter than usual? In organics I don’t see how that would be problematic, in fact it’s kinda the point!
In coco I go 5.8 in and get 4 to 4.4 out. Last I checked anyway and that was 6’months back?
Let me know how it goes and how you set it up? I was thinking maybe it goes on top a perlite res, so that the plant isn't sitting directly in water. I must talk to Gee actually. I might do a comparison in my summer grow, one top water only and one top water swick. Yes, organic.
Try watering to runoff every single feeding from start to finish. Even in the Solos. Betcha it makes a difference. Not that there’s anything wrong. That’s a big difference though. Wow.
