She is a So green like Jon said. I think I will call it “Envy Green“. With all the shimmering flecks of sparkle I’m in envy of that color.
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Thanks Nev! This is probably one of the most trichomey plants I've grown, though it's kinda funny not even knowing whether it's THC, THCV, or none of the above.She is a So green like Jon said. I think I will call it “Envy Green“. With all the shimmering flecks of sparkle I’m in envy of that color.
I have a theory that the way we train affects the stretch. I think the plant begins life with X amount of stretch genetically built in. So if you didn't train and just let it grow straight up, whatever stretch you got is the "natural" stretch. Now we take that one cola and turn it into 40. I believe that same amount of genetic stretch is now divided between all those branches, and as a result, the stretch is less. Or it's the same, but comes off as less due to each individual bud bearing stem stretching at 1/40th the rate it would if it was one main stem (in this example). I've noticed my plants that are trained as the Apple Blossom or any of the soil plants recently harvested that were trained similarly, not one of them even got close to doubling in vertical growth. See what I mean?I know right? At least it still fits well in the 2x4, especially since I have increased the positive pressure and the sides bow out when it's closed. Thanks Jon!
I'm at 157-34-181, so a bump to 180-38-200 is an easy tweak.
Good question! I have no idea, but I'll try to imagine why that might cause it. I could change my thinning style for a plant in the future, but without doing clones it won't tell me anything.
@StoneOtter has been de-larfing pretty aggressively lately. I wonder if he has noticed a difference in how his tops grow since he changed.
Another good question. I would need to go through all my flowering pics going back 4 years to see, so I'll have to find time to peruse!
???Thanks Nev! This is probably one of the most trichomey plants I've grown, though it's kinda funny not even knowing whether it's THC, THCV, or none of the above.
That's an interesting stretch theory that seems like it would be hard to test even in a lab with clones. Doesn't mean someone is not doing it for their Master's thesis right now though!I have a theory that the way we train affects the stretch. I think the plant begins life with X amount of stretch genetically built in. So if you didn't train and just let it grow straight up, whatever stretch you got is the "natural" stretch. Now we take that one cola and turn it into 40. I believe that same amount of genetic stretch is now divided between all those branches, and as a result, the stretch is less. Or it's the same, but comes off as less due to each individual bud bearing stem stretching at 1/40th the rate it would if it was one main stem (in this example). I've noticed my plants that are trained as the Apple Blossom or any of the soil plants recently harvested that were trained similarly, not one of them even got close to doubling in vertical growth. See what I mean?
So let's say for the sake of argument that the above is true. If so, then isn't it *maybe* logical to assume that the way we train could similarly affect the bud development, in your case resulting in really fat buds?
Like I said, it's a theory. I don't know enough science to take this any further. Lol.
Sorry Jon, you must not have gotten to see this post:???
Why is it that you don't know? (god I hope this isn't a silly question I should know the answer to....). lol.
I haven't heard back from them yet, though I will update when I do.the WSE website no longer listing Doug's Varin as available. Today I got a message from them saying:
"Although a lot of time was invested in breeding this strain, after several new test results from our breeder as well as customers, our Doug's Varin turned out to be inconsistent in it's THCV level, which is the core property people buy it for. We don't want to sell anything that doesn't meet our customer's expectations."
I asked them what the test results showed for THC, so at least I'd know what to expect if it's a regular cannabis plant. I'll let you know what I hear. In the meantime, let it grow let it grow let it grow!
Great answer!as long as the thermostat isn't overloaded with two.
Fun to hypothesize though!! Happy Smokin'I don't know enough science to take this any further.
Thanks Bode! VG's seems to be much more focused on pushing pistils than trichomes at this stage, but some of that might be related to the high UV from the sun forcing the plant to protect the leaves. I have no doubt that hers will have prettier flowers than mine!Great looking Dougs' Varin. She has a lot of trichomes already. Is she going to go 8 weeks, or will she be sooner. I'm assuming she's indica?!? I didn't notice if VG's DV had as much trichomes. Maybe next time.
Great answer!
FTFMVG's seems to be much more focused on pushing pistils and trichomes at this stage
I'm going to venture an uneducated guess, if that's ok...don't know if it's related to the sun or the schlepping or what, but I do wonder what I'm leaving on the table this way.
Thank you for the detailed answers, as you do! You're right, I missed that post. It does beg the question: if you knew that they had taken that course of action with the DV, why grow that strain? Interesting choice and I don't know anything about that particular strain. Special to you?That's an interesting stretch theory that seems like it would be hard to test even in a lab with clones. Doesn't mean someone is not doing it for their Master's thesis right now though!
And I'm sure that training affects bud development (otherwise we wouldn't do it!), but does it shorten bud growth post-stretch? Is it just that the plants in flower really don't like having their roots shifted around as @Virgin Ground (and I believe @Amy Gardner) has postulated?
When I retire maybe I will spend my days doing side by side clones to test all the stuff we could use answers to. I've got a list in my head somewhere!
Sorry Jon, you must not have gotten to see this post:
I haven't heard back from them yet, though I will update when I do.
I absolutely have seen my buds get much more nugworthy since. Fuller individual buds for sure, and I have to say extra frosty too it seems! That's the best part. Second best is the much less trim prison sentence I have to endure! Much better!@StoneOtter has been de-larfing pretty aggressively lately. I wonder if he has noticed a difference in how his tops grow since he changed.
What's a matter Otter, does the "Zen and the Art of Trimming" thing get old after an 8 hour trimming session?I absolutely have seen my buds get much more nugworthy since. Fuller individual buds for sure, and I have to say extra frosty too it seems! That's the best part. Second best is the much less trim prison sentence I have to endure! Much better!
Yes it does! Morning Jon!What's a matter Otter, does the "Zen and the Art of Trimming" thing get old after an 8 hour trimming session?
Couldn't agree more. It sure does. I wonder sometimes where I get my stamina for it from, cuz I tend to go animal and do it in big chunks. Best I can come up with is a combination of the fact that I am arguably more comfortable than the average Joe sitting in a chair for long periods of time, laugh and the fact that my chair does all kinds of cool stuff and so on breaks I can sit back on an angle with my feet up, or almost lay flat, or whatever. It's sort of like living in a moving Teeter board, lol. But it takes several hours for me before the zen of it starts to wear off. Caveat: if the weed is crappy or the way the leaves are makes it an especially difficult trim, it gets old in minutes. Witness trimming the Chunkadelic. I hated every second of it. Lmao.Yes it does!
Damn you've got the frost almost completely covering pretty big leaves....wowNope. Don't have any yet...
When I retire maybe I will spend my days doing side by side clones to test all the stuff we could use answers to. I've got a list in my head somewhere!
I'd be leery on the extension cord part, unless using a proper heavy Guage cord.I suppose if you plug both mats into an extension cord and plugged that into the thermostat (assuming you're under the max draw for it), it would send the same current to both. That could keep them around the same temp if they're next to each other. I guess it's worth a shot as long as the thermostat isn't overloaded with two.
I'm going to venture an uneducated guess, if that's ok...
She seems a little darker green than she should be, and, she has got a lot of leaves in the buds...is the N she's getting making her grow more leaves than flowers, or in place of flowers?
I don't really understand your npk numbers,
But that seems like a lot of N you're giving her at this stage. I say it seems like a lot, but I don't really know...
I'm probably way off base, just a thought I had...
She sure is a pretty one, though...
GDB, I have to admit, I find the first part funnier!Always entertaining and informative to visit here Shedster! You and Jon really get into the weedz.
However, this does not sound promising: