The Dealer
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Its the same worm castings Doc uses himself I believe. As long as the last number (K) is 0, its good.
Also this shop is right in Toronto.
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Its the same worm castings Doc uses himself I believe. As long as the last number (K) is 0, its good.
Also this shop is right in Toronto.
Not working Gray....
The Dealer
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By the way GT both your links come up no matches found.
Works when I try ...It's just a list of their posts ...
Sometimes I can get a link to work by right-clicking and opening it in a new tab or window ...
... yup, just tried again and it works both ways for me. (But I had a hell of a time getting the system to post it, so maybe there's currently a glitch.)
Dude!! The link from Canad420 was for Toronto Canada --- Lots of us know about shipping to Canada
1-0-0 is fine - it's that final zero that is part of the balancing act between various key nutrients. There is something about Potassium and interactions with Magnesium and Calcium -- or some other mystical mumbo jumbo.
Growing organic with nettle teas and ground up comfrey compost can produce spectacular, tasty, results - but you have to know why Glomus intraradices is the best mycorrhizal fonrming fungus, you have to know how much soil it takes to sustain your soil-food-web and a bunch of other mystical/technical stuff. If you are a master chef, no problem. If you are me, big problem.
Growing with Doc Bud's kit is like cooking from a recipe. There is a reason for baking soda instead of baking powder, but if you follow the recipe you don't need to understand the details. The chef understood and tested the recipe and it works ! Doc Bud is the Chef who studied recipes of other chefs, did soil tests, and adapted this knowledge into a recipe for success.
The best way to make this work is to follow the recipe
This is my first Doc Bud's Hi-brix kit plant drying right now - the recipe works
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Please explain, do you want 2 foot tall, 2 foot wide plants that are fully flowered?
Do you have a 2 foot grow cube?
If you are trying to grow in a 2 foot tall space - I suggest you just buy your weed.
I don't know how to do a bonsai cannabis plant without getting bonsai sized buds.
OttawaGreen
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Ok I didn't realize it was from Toronto. Will order it thanks.
OttawaGreen
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I grow in two cabinets at home. My bloom cabinet is 8' tall and 2 feet deep and 6 foot wide. It is lit with over 65watts per square foot of led.
I want the plants to finish at approx 2'x2' for my cabinet size. The shorter trained plants work better with leds. No point in making a four foot tall plant then "lollipoppong" the bottom two feet I figure, that is just wasted veg time then.
Hopefully that explains it better. Anyway, is a 7 gallon pot needed for 6-8 weeks veg to make a 2'x2' plant as short as possible? I'm sure it's great for growing a 4x4' with a pound of bud, but seems overkill for my space...Thanks for the info.
I want the plants to finish at approx 2'x2' for my cabinet size. The shorter trained plants work better with leds. No point in making a four foot tall plant then "lollipoppong" the bottom two feet I figure, that is just wasted veg time then.
Hopefully that explains it better. Anyway, is a 7 gallon pot needed for 6-8 weeks veg to make a 2'x2' plant as short as possible? I'm sure it's great for growing a 4x4' with a pound of bud, but seems overkill for my space...Thanks for the info.
I can squeeze 9 plants in 6 gallon square pots into my 4x4 bloom room with 50+ watts of LED per square foot. 
I get an average of 2-3 oz per plant. One plant in a 2x2 should be at least a 10 gallon pot, with a 4-5 ounce yield. You could probably do 4 plants in 5 gallon pots, too.
One very big pot will yield much better than 4 smaller ones, though. You've seen Duggans pots?
I get an average of 2-3 oz per plant. One plant in a 2x2 should be at least a 10 gallon pot, with a 4-5 ounce yield. You could probably do 4 plants in 5 gallon pots, too.
One very big pot will yield much better than 4 smaller ones, though. You've seen Duggans pots?
OttawaGreen
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Ok so you guys are saying basically "as big as possible" and that it does make a difference?
As in those little 2-3 oz plants would not grow as well if they were in 5 gallon instead of 6? If bigger is always better then why don't you use 7 gallon or ten gallon?
I figured there would be a diminishing return as in doubling the size of dirt only makes a small improvement. Like if your plants Made 2-3oz in 6 gallons then maybe you would only get a small say half oz improvement from same space, same veg time and same light? Is that not true? You are saying the 10 gallon would be a huge difference given the same veg/light/space?
Thanks for the info! I have been hydro growing for 15 years, no dirt experience.
I will check out duggan too, I think I have seen his journal before but it was years ago don't remember and want to learn as much as I can.
As in those little 2-3 oz plants would not grow as well if they were in 5 gallon instead of 6? If bigger is always better then why don't you use 7 gallon or ten gallon?
I figured there would be a diminishing return as in doubling the size of dirt only makes a small improvement. Like if your plants Made 2-3oz in 6 gallons then maybe you would only get a small say half oz improvement from same space, same veg time and same light? Is that not true? You are saying the 10 gallon would be a huge difference given the same veg/light/space?
Thanks for the info! I have been hydro growing for 15 years, no dirt experience.
I will check out duggan too, I think I have seen his journal before but it was years ago don't remember and want to learn as much as I can.
The Dealer
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I am growing a couple tester clones in 2 gallon plastic pots using the kit soil and they are turning out great. Root bound but great. 
Hey OG, ya bud, basically use as big of pots as you can, period. Check out Nis and Canna's big trough's,..or my 26 gal.ones. That's one plant in the front one and two in the back pot FYI. I use a whole 3.8 cu ft. bale of Promix (full 'kit')for those two pots,...and still have to add some PM to top up the pots cuz i believe if you use a 5 gal. pot, put 5 gal's. of soil in it ...26 gal pots put in 26 gal's. ...not 20 got it. The longer you want to veg or should i say , the bigger and healthy , you want it in the end, the bigger the pots you should use. If your only gonna grow smallish 2 -3 oz. plants , then five gal's. is fine. If you want upwards of 1/2 pound per plant, then a three gal. pot is just not gonna do it for ya ...got it! cheers everyone...hope ya's are all havin a groovin day...dull and rainy gray here....Toronto area.
Ziggs,...Doc's gonna be busy when he gets back into town eh...
For anyone out there interested in getting a hold of Doc's 'Kit' , please do some reading about 'how to use the kit'. It's in Doc's sig. "How to use the High Brix Kit". I highly suggest getting very familiar with the words and terms , that way you will know what we're all talkin about. He, Doc, is very good at answering all questions , and returning emails. 'Kits' are sent out very promptly , and ALWAYS delivered to happy recipientsThis is the HB neighborhood, and we all leave our ego's somewhere else when we're here, there is just too much to learn and so many cool people to get to know,..there's no time for big egos, so please remember that. If you are fairly new to these parts , a very warm welcome to ya, get around to some of the other HB journals and get a 'feel' for our very cool group. When you enter our journals with a smile...ya won't wanna leave...
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Thanks for clarifing - that sounds like a good , intelligent plan.
For size comparison, this is a pair of 12" tall x 22" wide plants in an 4' wide room in 10 and 7 gallon pots.
3 weeks later, the same 2 plants in the same space. (there are prettier picture of them away from yellow lights.)
At this size, the 7g and 10g pot size makes no real difference IN THE FIRST GROW. (I hear soil gets better in the 2nd grow.)
I think part of the reason for 7 gallon+ size is that it is easier to maintain a living soil community in the larger pots.
You would probably be fine in 5 gallon pots, but if you are flowering 3 plants at a time it doesn't matter much.
One kit fills six 7 gallon pots: 3 in flower, 3 in veg + soil for 5-ish 1 gallon seedlings
One kit fills six 5 gallons pots: 3 in flower, 3 in veg + leftover soil for 15-ish 1 gallon seedlings.
If you plan to run a perpetual grow, and everything works perfectly, you might be able to cook soil for 30 days, and make 5 gallon pots work where 7 gallon pots would require another partial batch of soil. In practical terms, you will probably need to make up 1.5 to 2 batches of soil to run perpetual in either size pot.
In my opinion, there is no real reason not to go to 7 gallon. They fit in your room, the extra soil might help. Doc thinks in 7 gallon pots.
I went to a mix of 7 gallon and 10 gallon because I already had the pots
And the reason my pots are 6 gallons is because of the shape - it lets me use 14" square pots (outside dimensions) that fit my space perfectly and lets me run more strains at once. That's 50 gallons of soil for 9 strains at once. It works, but I'd get healthier plants and better yield from five 10 gallon pots.
In this method, we're feeding the soil biota, and they feed the plant in a wonderful synergistic partnership. So we need to give the soil critters plenty of soil to party in. Happy bots grow happy plants.
In this method, we're feeding the soil biota, and they feed the plant in a wonderful synergistic partnership. So we need to give the soil critters plenty of soil to party in. Happy bots grow happy plants.
OttawaGreen
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Perfect explanation. I will think on it. To get started I have orderedtwo 3.8 cu ft hp myco and two thirty pound bags of wiggly worm castings from Toronto.
Another question on pots. Fabric pots yay or nay? Seem like a pain in the ass, but are they worth it?
OG, good stuff,...Ok, first thing bud...you in Ottawa..right??...try asking or phoning around to local nurseries to see if they carry WW EWC..ya know they just might. Save you a bunch from shipping it from the TO area. I'm just west of there
I get mine at a local nursery. As far as what kind of pots...doesn't really matter...what matters the most , is size ...and ya , size DOES matter...
cheers OG and gang.
Shawnee....hey you,...speech 
....NO....I'm terrible at those. Just gettin things straight eh...thanks though eh...cheers Shawnee.
....NO....I'm terrible at those. Just gettin things straight eh...thanks though eh...cheers Shawnee.
Conradino23
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I actually think it matters, different heat absorption and release, different oxygen penetration so quicker or slower water evaporation and more or less effective microbial growth. I've been using air-pots for flowering for years and didn't find anything better... except direct soil growing. But indoor I'd look into different options before you decide.OG, good stuff,...Ok, first thing bud...you in Ottawa..right??...try asking or phoning around to local nurseries to see if they carry WW EWC..ya know they just might. Save you a bunch from shipping it from the TO area. I'm just west of there
OttawaGreen
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Thanks for the input guys. Allready orders the worm castings from Toronto. The shipping was only $15 for two 30 pound bag so not bad. Already ordered the two large cubes of fancy hp myco soil from Lowe's.