Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing & Review

Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Looking awesome!! :D

Thanks Toker!! These lights are kicking some major butt!!
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

planning breeding projects its more exciting to me than just growing someone elses idea of a great strain

I always imagine getting a few amazing landrace specimens and starting from a clean slate. It feels like there are too many crosses of crosses of hybrids of crosses and I just wonder what kinds of genetic dead ends we're leading ourselves down. I wonder what's being lost.

There are only a few seed companies who go out and procure these pure specimens and I find myself wishing there were more so we could get those pure genetics back into the pool and more importantly, make sure they stay alive and available to future generations. I'd hate to think of a world where all we had was genetically tangled up frankenweed with no way back.

Don't get me wrong, there is definitely some AMAZING frankenweed out there, but like I say, I just wonder what then ultimate tradeoff of it all is. Prolly I'm overthinking it. LOL


i know how you feel fantasizing about crosses, i have a large number of articles on breeding i can feed you by pm or just pasting them here,let me know,

Hey! I'm fantasizing too, you know! :)
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

I was reading into this last night, and it seems that at the noon/mid day point, plants go through a photosynthesis depression, the most active photosynthesis takes place at sunrise, until noon, and then slowly tapers off towards the night period. So with this being said, it would make most sense to give plants the most light during the beginning of the daylight period, and at the midway/noon point, start tapering off the intensity of light.

Another piece of info I found last night when reading is that very intense blue light spectrums, will actually slightly hinder photosynthesis if there is too much blue. What happens is the chloroplasts instead of spreading across the leaf surface during dim/fairly intense blue light, but in the presense of very intense blue light, the chloroplasts group together on the vertical surfaces from the blue light source, which reduce the efficiency of converting blue light to energy.

YES! Now you're getting into the things that make me so excited about this light! We're used to talking in very grossly general terms about how plants need more blue in veg and more red in flower. But thinking about the way sunlight is filtered and refracted as it passes from east to west combined with things like what you just learned about photosynthesis peaking before the highest intensity of the day leads one to wonder about the possibilities. Add in what some are learning with the GLR cycle and man, ideas for experiments in light manipulation start popping like popcorn!

At any rate, it leads me to wonder if it would be useful to ditch the common thinking of ramping up to a maximum intensity of all spectrums, then ramping down to a night cycle in a smooth bell curve. Maybe ramp up to about noon, then ramp back down a bit, not all the way to darkness for a couple of hours, then ramp up again to a higher intensity than before but with more red dominance, then back down for night. Just as a random idea I just pulled out of my butt, mind you. :)

But, my point is that it seems like the GLR guys are on to something that we can totally build on with the ability to manipulate intensity and spectrum mix in addition to just on/off cycles.

Someone smarter than me will have to do it though. I'm smart enough to know it's going to lead to some major freaking breakthroughs, but not smart enough to figure them out for myself. LOL
 
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Nice and full in that tent cant wait to see what those lights do for bloom :thumb:
 
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You've got quite a harem of girls there Ice. In NY, the rates go down in off peak times, to take advantage of this I would have to reverse the schedule; on at 6pm off at noon.

We had summer discounts that if your power use was shifted from mid-day hours, there was a slight rate discount in the summer, which only made up for the summer rate increase...LOL
 
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I always imagine getting a few amazing landrace specimens and starting from a clean slate. It feels like there are too many crosses of crosses of hybrids of crosses and I just wonder what kinds of genetic dead ends we're leading ourselves down. I wonder what's being lost.

There are only a few seed companies who go out and procure these pure specimens and I find myself wishing there were more so we could get those pure genetics back into the pool and more importantly, make sure they stay alive and available to future generations. I'd hate to think of a world where all we had was genetically tangled up frankenweed with no way back.

Don't get me wrong, there is definitely some AMAZING frankenweed out there, but like I say, I just wonder what then ultimate tradeoff of it all is. Prolly I'm overthinking it. LOL




Hey! I'm fantasizing too, you know! :)


I too agree, I wish that I had a nice seed bank on some landrace genetics. I do have a few special seed saved from different sources but wish I had kept stuff from when I was a teen back in the early 90's. Bummer. I know once I get going with collecting seeds, I wont stop :) I actually can't wait to breed my own as well, I just dream of the combos and flavors that are possible... grandaddy's blue dream cookies? lol
 
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YES! Now you're getting into the things that make me so excited about this light! We're used to talking in very grossly general terms about how plants need more blue in veg and more red in flower. But thinking about the way sunlight is filtered and refracted as it passes from east to west combined with things like what you just learned about photosynthesis peaking before the highest intensity of the day leads one to wonder about the possibilities. Add in what some are learning with the GLR cycle and man, ideas for experiments in light manipulation start popping like popcorn!

At any rate, it leads me to wonder if it would be useful to ditch the common thinking of ramping up to a maximum intensity of all spectrums, then ramping down to a night cycle in a smooth bell curve. Maybe ramp up to about noon, then ramp back down a bit, not all the way to darkness for a couple of hours, then ramp up again to a higher intensity than before but with more red dominance, then back down for night. Just as a random idea I just pulled out of my butt, mind you. :)

But, my point is that it seems like the GLR guys are on to something that we can totally build on with the ability to manipulate intensity and spectrum mix in addition to just on/off cycles.

Someone smarter than me will have to do it though. I'm smart enough to know it's going to lead to some major freaking breakthroughs, but not smart enough to figure them out for myself. LOL

Its a very interesting topic and one I definitely am going to explore in much more detail. Its amazing to think about how many environmental aspects that we have yet to tweak for the best potential, right now we are tweaking soil and nutrients, raising co2 and monitoring humidity and temps, and now intelligent gro steps up the bar with custom light spectrums... crazy awesome!! LOL

I totally agree with what you are excited about too! I was reading that different areas on the globe receive different amounts of solar radiation in the form of UV depending on the global position. Areas in the tropics near the equator recieve much more uv than regions like the US or even more towards the poles because at these points the sun is traveling through more atmosphere to reach the surface of earth. This actually has a bearing on the way plants photosynthesize and actually has bearing on the plant mid-day depression depending on the UV and solar radiation intensities.

I also remember reading that one of the studies that lead people to believe in UV-B was based on the study of cannabis plants around the world, and those near the equator and high in mountains had more trichome development and resin glands. This lead to the belief that more UV created more trichomes. So with that and the above mentioned in mind, tweaking the UV by the hour would be a cool feature to be able to replicate the output of the sun during the course of the day. I wonder if this mid-day depression, stress, is part of the reason that the plant forces itself to develop more resin? Hmmmm
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Looks GREAT Ice! :high-five:

Thanks Away!!!!
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Nice and full in that tent cant wait to see what those lights do for bloom :thumb:

It should be very very soon :) I can't wait either :)
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Hey everyone...Happy 420 weekend!!!

Just wanted to drop a quick update...


Getting my next feeding/tea ready and I wanted to give a soil drench to the girls/plus add some Ca/Mg because I believe these babies are burning up the Ca cause their growing so fast. I only notice it on the lower leaves on just a few of the plants, but definitely want to have it handled before flowering.

I mixed up 5 gallons of r/o water with

4 tbsp of Earthjuice Gro 2-1-1
40ml of General Organics liquid squid 2-3-1
20 ml of 2-0-0 botanicare cal/mag (gotta get more general organics)
added 1 spoonful of fishbone meal 3-18-0 with 25% calcium
1 spoonful of calcium carbonate powder
1 spoonful of epsom salts

This mix will be bubbed for 1-2 days.

Other than this, the plants are looking amazing, I'm trying to decide when to clone them. I may even still do it tonight :)
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Ice thanks for the study then sharing of knowledge you do. I've got a lot of ideas and thoughts about manipulation of indoor environment to achieve quicker/better results, and then you drop all this knowledge your've found, man, you don't know how much time you save a simple brother sifting through irrelevant crap or stuff I just don't understand. So know man the stuff you share its being absorbed and used and helping created new strategies.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Definitely looking forward to seeing some flower results with your lights. Keeps up the good work.;)
 
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Hey everyone!!! Happy 420!!!

I hope everyone enjoys the holiday in our favor!!! And also Happy Easter to everyone as well!

BTW.. I just heard that Intelligent gro LED is running a 1 day sale on their panels in spirit of 420!!

Here is the details.

4-20 Special

25% off purchase, on Generation I Intelligent Gro LED grow lights.

Visit Home and use the discount code: 1Day420

Happy 420 everyone!!
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Happy 420 Icemud :)

Happy 420 Toker, check your PM..
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Hey Ice thanks for the heads up. Are the 228s you're running 1st gen? Also are you running the veg program on yours effectively pulling the 78 watts? Lastly, do you think despite coverage a single 228 running at 39 could result better than a 125 cfl? Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Hey Ice thanks for the heads up. Are the 228s you're running 1st gen? Also are you running the veg program on yours effectively pulling the 78 watts? Lastly, do you think despite coverage a single 228 running at 39 could result better than a 125 cfl? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Hey Beleaf, each light pulls up to 180w at full intensity. The charts of each custom schedule and the draw per hour are listed back a page or 2. So not sure how you got the 78watts, but at full intensity each light is 180w. The Intelligent Gro lights will give much better results than a 125w CFL.
 
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