Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spectrum

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Ladies are looking stellar Ice! Brix numbers are great (from what I've read). Looking forward to the frost show coming our way brother. :circle-of-love:
 
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Ye been awhile so i best pop in for a nosey.

GOD looks amazing with health 'n' frost, COB ah those girls must be around 10 weeks at best from last count roughly ??? but i'm pleased to see the def thing looks to be reasonable tame & more likely would of agreed with Mg perhaps a ph issue or lack of nutrients or may be that just ol leds may create Ca / Mg issues, who knows ?


I don't PH correct nutrients & never have done !

I'm firm believer that the soil PH value is the most single important value to under stand some where between PH 6 & 7 should be just fine for most macro nutrients to work & that micro nutrients are often a chelated form not sure about organic nutrients tho ? which make em work over a wider range of PH.

Organic & chelated, i'm not sure if that works to organic standards ? as it appears some bonding of what ever perhaps a chemical process to make micro nutrients available over a larger range is at play ?

Yes i use to use organic bottled stuff but know use the more chemical salt based nutrients, i don't or never PH correct either of em ! doing just fine even tho i have checked tap water which holds an average PH of 6.5 & 500 ppm for around a few years of soil growing.


Also i'm aware the soil is self buffering by nature & general returns to ambient levels with in 24 hours after feeding /watering !



Just going to point this out, PH up or down are acids in the acidic or alkaline range which can come in different % strengths & that most nutrients are acidic in nature, we are also looking at PH range of water used to what we use.

Knowing that PH up/down has more likely got a PH value & i'm pretty sure most peeps calibrate their PH pen in PH solution once in awhile will click on to this... but do these PH up/downs sit in the soil altering PH over time & that is the question !

Hey Fuzzy Duck!

Thanks for the good info and vibes :) I haven't tested PH in a long time either, and just learned to trust my soil and roots will work it out which for the most part has worked for me. I think with the veg tent, I may have overwatered, which caused the PH to fluctuate, causing the issues. Since I let the soil dry out completely and then flushed them with plain water and Mg, things have really improved. I will be giving them a good compost tea on the next feeding to get that soil active again and should see them thrive :) All of the plants now show nice healthy new growth so I think I may be in the clear :)

I probably should check the PH here and there, but so far haven't needed to since probably my 1st or 2nd grow. I just kind of learned how long to bubble certain nutrients and run with it..LOL

I have been dabbling with a little bit of salt based/synthetic nutrients here and there. I do add potassium silicate which is synthetic, and from time to time also add some madd farmer bloom booster, but use them in about 1/4 strength so they don't harm my microbes :) I've been wanting to try a full synthetic grow just to see how it would turn out in my soil, but I gave away all my monthly prize winnings that were not organic so I would have to buy some now...

Wow... your tap water is 500ppm! holy toledo! I though mine was high here in Socal around 350-400ppm. I went out and bought a Reverse osmosis system which takes my 8.4PH, 400ppm water and turns it into 0ppm, 7PH water... I also use it for drinking water and wow it tastes so good :) I mainly didn't like how my water has a lot added to it including chlorine, chloramines, and also some other chemical to prevent the water from stripping arsenic when its pumped back into the aquifer. I got 2 carbon block filters inline too to remove all the chemicals and VOC's. :)

I appreciate your post :) What differences do you notice going from soil and organics to synthetic? pros cons?
 
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Ladies are looking stellar Ice! Brix numbers are great (from what I've read). Looking forward to the frost show coming our way brother. :circle-of-love:

Thanks DrCannabi!!!

I'm definitely loving what I am seeing in this grow so far :) should be a nice hearty yield and hopefully super potent and flavorful :)
 
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Wow... your tap water is 500ppm! holy toledo! I though mine was high here in Socal around 350-400ppm. I went out and bought a Reverse osmosis system which takes my 8.4PH, 400ppm water and turns it into 0ppm, 7PH water... I also use it for drinking water and wow it tastes so good :) I mainly didn't like how my water has a lot added to it including chlorine, chloramines, and also some other chemical to prevent the water from stripping arsenic when its pumped back into the aquifer. I got 2 carbon block filters inline too to remove all the chemicals and VOC's. :)

I just purchased a 4 stage ro to deal with the horrible water I have here... 0.8ec and 8pH out of the tap. Filter gets it down to 0.3ec but the pH goes up to 10? Little confusing but I have a few tests to do as I haven't tested it with nutes in it yet. I believe the lack of ions makes it hard to get a true pH reading before you add anything. Still need to use all my reserves before I get to the ro.
Your grow is looking awesome! Glad you got your issues sorted quickly. :)
 
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I just purchased a 4 stage ro to deal with the horrible water I have here... 0.8ec and 8pH out of the tap. Filter gets it down to 0.3ec but the pH goes up to 10? Little confusing but I have a few tests to do as I haven't tested it with nutes in it yet. I believe the lack of ions makes it hard to get a true pH reading before you add anything. Still need to use all my reserves before I get to the ro.
Your grow is looking awesome! Glad you got your issues sorted quickly. :)

I was reading your post and just about to reply that it might be lack of conductivity to get a good reading in the purified water, but then I saw you also though of that. I know my PPM meter never had issues but my PH meter always would read incorrectly or be all over the chart when testing my purified water. I keep a PH drop test kit handy and used that and it was right at 7 :) Those cheap dropper kits are like $7 i think and they are nice to have on hand and actually I like the accuracy much more than the digital PH meter (I have a Hanna PHeP) but I never trusted the thing. Now I hardly ever check my ph of my water for my plants, but occasionally do check my tap water to see if I need to change the filters :)

I got my R/O system off Bulk reef supply as you can order what you want and they will build it how you want it, and even have handy dandy inline ppm meters...LOL I also picked up a deionizing resin filter for my 5th stage which pretty much takes the water from about 15ppm to 0.
 
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So today I took some photos of the COB tent (veg tent) with and without the lights off to show the plants progress. So far they look like they are recovering fine and most are showing some really vivid new growth. I gave the girls in both tents a foliar spray of R/O water with: amaze, pgr, jasmine tea, potassium salts and organic b vitamins with yucca and carboload. (all were added to 1 gallon of water in amounts under 5ml and most around 1ml).

I sprayed the girls in both tents and we will see how they look tomorrow. I added the potassium salts as they are easily taken into the plant and di-ammonium phosphate is shown to increase oil production in many plants if applied by foliar application.

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I also snapped some photos of the flowering tent which is on day 30 of flowering from the flip.

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Love that strain, great pix. Looks like some tiger stripes on a few leaves in the veg tent. When I saw that in my tent it was PH Lockup. But flower tent is stellar.

Cheers
 
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I was reading your post and just about to reply that it might be lack of conductivity to get a good reading in the purified water, but then I saw you also though of that. I know my PPM meter never had issues but my PH meter always would read incorrectly or be all over the chart when testing my purified water. I keep a PH drop test kit handy and used that and it was right at 7 :) Those cheap dropper kits are like $7 i think and they are nice to have on hand and actually I like the accuracy much more than the digital PH meter (I have a Hanna PHeP) but I never trusted the thing. Now I hardly ever check my ph of my water for my plants, but occasionally do check my tap water to see if I need to change the filters :)

I got my R/O system off Bulk reef supply as you can order what you want and they will build it how you want it, and even have handy dandy inline ppm meters...LOL I also picked up a deionizing resin filter for my 5th stage which pretty much takes the water from about 15ppm to 0.

Great idea! I actually still have a new drop tester sitting around. Recently purchased a bluelab pH pen as I couldn't get an accurate reading from drops with all the AN additives I'm using and seeing as I'm in a coco/perlite mix o have to have the pH on point otherwise it all goes south quickly! :)
 
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I just purchased a 4 stage ro to deal with the horrible water I have here... 0.8ec and 8pH out of the tap. Filter gets it down to 0.3ec but the pH goes up to 10? Little confusing but I have a few tests to do as I haven't tested it with nutes in it yet. I believe the lack of ions makes it hard to get a true pH reading before you add anything. Still need to use all my reserves before I get to the ro.
Your grow is looking awesome! Glad you got your issues sorted quickly. :)

Not sure why your PH increase's as ya running through a RO filter as it should be removing various elements from the water to decrease values...

It might be just the time to recalibrate your PH pen as a friendly suggestion.
 
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Not sure why your PH increase's as ya running through a RO filter as it should be removing various elements from the water to decrease values...

It might be just the time to recalibrate your PH pen as a friendly suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestion but my pen is brand new! I did a drop test last night and it came out nice and blue. Looked pretty much spot on 8pH. Must be the lack of ions messing with my pH pen. :)
 
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Already showing some red. What a beautiful girl! :cheertwo:

Thanks Dr!!!! I can't wait to see how they turn out :)
 
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Love that strain, great pix. Looks like some tiger stripes on a few leaves in the veg tent. When I saw that in my tent it was PH Lockup. But flower tent is stellar.

Cheers

Yep, haha I like that description... Tiger Stripes! haha

Yea been working on a lockout in there, not sure what I fed them a few weeks back but it really put a hold on their growth and so finally I am seeing recovery on them. They should be back to normal shortly as with organics, soil correction is a much slower process than synthetics.
 
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They look super dense and hard too. Just beautiful as always Ice!
:bravo:
Bob ;)

Thanks Dr Bob!!!! trying my best to make this grow even better than the previous :)
 
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Those girls are divine. Dontcha just love early frost? :goodjob:

Stay Frosty,
CanEyeBus

Definitely loving the early frost, speaking of, your plants are looking stellar!
 
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Thanks for the suggestion but my pen is brand new! I did a drop test last night and it came out nice and blue. Looked pretty much spot on 8pH. Must be the lack of ions messing with my pH pen. :)

Most likely its that your water is too pure to test. Pure water is not conductive, which is how digital ph meters work so that is most likely why the meter is not reading :) glad to hear the drops worked for you. Look into D/I (deionizing resin) filters and you actually by adding one of those will get 7ph water every time :)
 
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