I need advice, plants 5 weeks old looking terrible!

[Emilya Green]

watched Emily's post, she grows indoors, maybe a bit diff for outdoor? Thank for sharing that!

Thanks for reading it... and no its not different, it simply works a little faster outdoors. Out there, as they said above, the hot sun allows the plants to process water and evaporate it off much faster than can happen indoors under artificial lights. Where you can get a 1 day wet/dry cycle in full bloom, I struggle to get a 2-3 day cycle. It comes down to simple physics as to why outdoor plants can get so much bigger... they process more food and water and get more light.

 

[LKV]

Omg what big trunks u have! excellent!

 

[LKV]

I'm glad they're on the mend!

FFOF works well if you will be continuing with the nutrients, as the stuff FF puts in there is barely enough for young cannabis plants. Growers I know that use OF still start feeding from the second set of leaves.

The Recipe 420 soil looks to have a lot more nutrients in it:
Ingredients: Aged forest products, coir, sphagnum peat moss, pumice, earthworm castings, feather meal, seabird guano, crab meal, fish bone meal, oyster shell lime (pH adjuster), dolomite lime (pH adjuster), bat guano, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, and wetting agent (yucca schidigera saponin).
Source

Though they do pitch their own nutrient line so maybe those are all at low levels like FFOF! Hard to tell from looking at the product info.

Folks here have a lot of experience growing in FFOF, so that's where I would lean as it's a known quantity. But I'm sure the Recipe 420 stuff will work well too. Not much of a recommendation I know.

New problem! I have spotted a web on one off my plants and caught a spider. Pretty sure he’s too big to be a spider mite. Should I try Spraying it with spinosad?

 

[InTheShed]

Spiders are good. That's not what's putting holes in your leaves, but whatever is will probably be killed with Spinosad!

 

[bluter]

you probably have mites too by the looks of the spotting. natural predators usually keep them in check outdoors. a few ladybugs could help out.

web spinning spiders don't normally go after mites, unless they spin the webs as transport and not as traps. mites will also leave their own transport webs if there are enough of them. some predators will use those webs as well.

 

[InTheShed]

Ladybugs are fickle outside. Spinosad will take care of whatever is eating it, but no more than 6x per growing season.

 

[bluter]

Ladybugs are fickle outside. Spinosad will take care of whatever is eating it, but no more than 6x per growing season.

dunno if it's available in california. we can't get it here.

 

[InTheShed]

Definitely available in CA!

 

[LKV]

dunno if it's available in california. we can't get it here.

Yeah I really don’t want to use spinosad cause I have humming birds feeding on my Salvia and a few lady bugs around, I also have 2 older small dogs that love the yard. It’s been so windy here, a main stem on my droopy but awesomely re-potted female split, she’s taped and supported now. What’s a grower to do! My plants look happy today, my repotted female is still drooping though you can see in the last 2 pics

 

[Morda Grown]

The holes could be Japanese beetles too, they can be very destructive. Spiders are the good guys as @InTheShed has said. They are on my plants keeping the leaf hoppers down. I have lots of ladybugs around my area and see many on all my plants on patrol.

 

[Buds Buddy]

Is the droopy plant the one with the holes in the leaves ?

 

[InTheShed]

Spinosad is safe around pets (don't spray them!) and won't affect humming birds on your salvia if you don't spray the salvia. It's even safe for bees after it dries.

https://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/spinosadgen.html

Do the droopy plants feel light?

 

[LKV]

The holes could be Japanese beetles too, they can be very destructive. Spiders are the good guys as @InTheShed has said. They are on my plants keeping the leaf hoppers down. I have lots of ladybugs around my area and see many on all my plants on patrol.

I haven’t seen and beetles, but i'll be on the lookout.

Is the droopy plant the one with the holes in the leaves ?

no, no pests on my drooper. I had this one in a large terracotta (glazed on the outside) pot that was Similar to the yellow one you see in the photos, it started drooping from what I now know to be an under watering issue so I moved it to the large black plastic tube shaped pot with holes around the bottom so I can keep it an eye on the soil all the way from top to bottom -anyway it never stopped drooping but it does look better than it did before

 

[LKV]

no, no pests on my drooper. I had this one in a large terracotta (glazed on the outside) pot that was Similar to the yellow one you see in the photos, it started drooping from what I now know to be an under watering issue so I moved it to the large black plastic tube shaped pot with holes around the bottom so I can keep it an eye on the soil all the way from top to bottom -anyway it never stopped drooping but it does look better than it did before

Spinosad is safe around pets (don't spray them!) and won't affect humming birds on your salvia if you don't spray the salvia. It's even safe for bees after it dries.

https://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/spinosadgen.html

Do the droopy plants feel light?

Thank you! I only have one droopy one right now and it’s the same one that I repotted

 

[LKV]

Thank you! I only have one droopy one right now and it’s the same one that I repotted

Spinosad is safe around pets (don't spray them!) and won't affect humming birds on your salvia if you don't spray the salvia. It's even safe for bees after it dries.

https://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/spinosadgen.html

Do the droopy plants feel light?

no not light --well watered and thank u for the info on Spinosad

 

[LKV]

These plants are controlling me

 

[Wesncool]

Yeah I really don’t want to use spinosad cause I have humming birds feeding on my Salvia and a few lady bugs around, I also have 2 older small dogs that love the yard. It’s been so windy here, a main stem on my droopy but awesomely re-potted female split, she’s taped and supported now. What’s a grower to do! My plants look happy today, my repotted female is still drooping though you can see in the last 2 pics

High LKV
may I suggest that try " FOXFARM "
Bush Doctors KELP ME KELP YOU.
I've been using it and getting really good results especially in the heat.
Keep on growing.
Wesncool.

 

[LKV]

High LKV
may I suggest that try " FOXFARM "
Bush Doctors KELP ME KELP YOU.
I've been using it and getting really good results especially in the heat.
Keep on growing.
Wesncool.

you mean for the drooper or the pest problem? I'm currently using Nova flora bloom for nutes

 

[Wesncool]

High LKV
may I suggest that try " FOXFARM "
Bush Doctors KELP ME KELP YOU.
I've been using it and getting really good results especially in the heat.
Keep on growing.
Wesncool.

P.S.
Lady good. You want to keep them around.
Peace

 

[Wesncool]

you mean for the drooper or the pest problem? I'm currently using Nova flora bloom for nutes

Droopy, not familiar with Nova flora.
You may also try ALASKA 5.1.1.
PEACE