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High Hyena
Hope it was a stoney day for you
Happy New Year Birdy...
Hope it's your best ever.
Peace, Hyena
Hyena's Never-Ending Adventures In Growing
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Happy New Year Birdy...
Hope it's your best ever.
Peace, Hyena
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Thanks brother...but maybe that will become another even more fiendish plan...my post later today will explain.
Happy New Year!
Peace, Hyena
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425jesse
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Happy New Year HM, cheers brother!
Big Sparks
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Happy New Year Hyenamerica! May 2019 bring plenty of big beautiful buds!
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Just sweeping up the trim room today...
A good post tomorrow morning.
Peace, Hyena
A good post tomorrow morning.
Peace, Hyena
Big Sparks
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Just sweeping up the trim room today...
A good post tomorrow morning.
Peace, Hyena
Latitude17
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Welcome to a new year. Time for the first
PROJECT 28 UPDATE!
I've been away for awhile...thinking...and eating quite a bit. The holidays are always a diet-buster.
But thinking hard. I've been doing experimental small-batch growing in this attic lab for 3 1/2 years now. 7 different grows, trying many things. Some worked magnificently, some were duds. I feel I have learned a lot though, and that I have done about all I can with this setup. With the failure of the seed project I am left with a nice little grow but that wasn't my goal. I feel the winds of change blowing and my purpose here is probably about to change.
After being gone for a week the grow is noticeably impacted by unavoidable large temperature fluctuations. The outside temperatures have been varying a lot more than previous years where it simply got cold and stayed cold, so the plants have been subjected to a big swing between lights on and lights off temps, getting down near 60 F at night and nearly 80 F during the day inside the lab. This is simply too big a range and it has seriously stressed my girls. One plant looks like it's in trouble and another has completely croaked. But the others are as vigorous as any plants could be so here again we see some phenotypes of the exact same variety are much hardier than others. Nature.
The right side is popping:
Big buds coming and everything looking nice.
The middle is also lush:
Things packing out and the Queen in front still the tallest Blue Hyena, still 100% female which I simply do not understand but must accept.
However, the left rear plant, which looked great until it didn't, is gone. I have checked everything, it gets as much water as the others and shares a common reservoir, plus it had more light than anyone else and simply died.
I believe the temperature swings did it in. No other rational explanation. Sad.
I don't lose too many plants but that's life. Or death to be precise.
But in the rest of the grow the flowers that are blooming look like the frost is starting to appear...
So things seem like they will finish up okay. I'm a bit perplexed by the developments this time around but like I said earlier, I'm thinking this is the time to be re-thinking. My state is not heavy-handed about weed (it's basically decriminalized) but the state next door, Michigan, just went fully legal and more importantly, has the most liberal laws yet regarding private cultivation. Michigan will allow up to 12 plants per household and with such an allowance, it's hard for me to see a ton of picky enforcement especially in grow operations they don't know about. In Michigan I have the option of becoming an officially licensed "caregiver" to up to 5 other people...meaning I could legally grow 12 plants for each of them, too. A 72-plant grow would require some infrastructure and investment, plus I'm not keen on anyone knowing what I'm growing as a general rule...if the State (and other people) were involved I would always be subject to potential complications and random interventions. But two big secret rooms would be the ideal playfield for me and I think I could produce some real buds. 20 or more pounds a year. Now we're talking a hobby that pays.
So I'm fairly certain if I had a house in Michigan (which I just happen to have) I could probably grow 24 plants and say the other 12 were for my spouse. If anyone asked. Which I'm having a hard time imagining anyone will do. The fines for going over the individual limit are pretty much nothing except they could take some of the plants. But it's legal so I could just keep on growing my 12 and start 12 more somewhere else. And with nowhere to even buy pot yet in the state, and an entire universe of grows and dispensaries in the complicated process of being set up, enforcement of plant counts in grows they don't even know about seems a very minor priority or even possibility unless I attract attention somehow which I'm pretty good at not doing.
The real point is, the opportunity to grow some serious (for me) weed has just dropped into my lap. I believe I am skilled enough at this point to take two big rooms and create a truly professional-level grow and the State of Michigan just agreed with me by making the opportunity legal. I think the green light is pretty much fully on for me to step it up.
So I'm doing the research. This little lab of mine might soon give way to a much more meaningful operation. My goal is to determine the overall viability of such a plan in the next few weeks.
And as much as I like growing weed, I have a feeling this is going to find a way to happen. Soon I want my own actual forest of cannabis. To disappear into and never be seen again.
I turned 59 yesterday. I feel pretty good for my age. There are always new horizons no matter how old you are because it's really about how old you feel. The growing techniques that I have learned over the past three years are undeniably valuable and might now serve me well. Thank you Michigan for coming to your senses. We're about to become real pals.
Have a great day!
Peace, Hyena
PROJECT 28 UPDATE!
I've been away for awhile...thinking...and eating quite a bit. The holidays are always a diet-buster.
But thinking hard. I've been doing experimental small-batch growing in this attic lab for 3 1/2 years now. 7 different grows, trying many things. Some worked magnificently, some were duds. I feel I have learned a lot though, and that I have done about all I can with this setup. With the failure of the seed project I am left with a nice little grow but that wasn't my goal. I feel the winds of change blowing and my purpose here is probably about to change.
After being gone for a week the grow is noticeably impacted by unavoidable large temperature fluctuations. The outside temperatures have been varying a lot more than previous years where it simply got cold and stayed cold, so the plants have been subjected to a big swing between lights on and lights off temps, getting down near 60 F at night and nearly 80 F during the day inside the lab. This is simply too big a range and it has seriously stressed my girls. One plant looks like it's in trouble and another has completely croaked. But the others are as vigorous as any plants could be so here again we see some phenotypes of the exact same variety are much hardier than others. Nature.
The right side is popping:
Big buds coming and everything looking nice.
The middle is also lush:
Things packing out and the Queen in front still the tallest Blue Hyena, still 100% female which I simply do not understand but must accept.
However, the left rear plant, which looked great until it didn't, is gone. I have checked everything, it gets as much water as the others and shares a common reservoir, plus it had more light than anyone else and simply died.
I believe the temperature swings did it in. No other rational explanation. Sad.
I don't lose too many plants but that's life. Or death to be precise.But in the rest of the grow the flowers that are blooming look like the frost is starting to appear...
So things seem like they will finish up okay. I'm a bit perplexed by the developments this time around but like I said earlier, I'm thinking this is the time to be re-thinking. My state is not heavy-handed about weed (it's basically decriminalized) but the state next door, Michigan, just went fully legal and more importantly, has the most liberal laws yet regarding private cultivation. Michigan will allow up to 12 plants per household and with such an allowance, it's hard for me to see a ton of picky enforcement especially in grow operations they don't know about. In Michigan I have the option of becoming an officially licensed "caregiver" to up to 5 other people...meaning I could legally grow 12 plants for each of them, too. A 72-plant grow would require some infrastructure and investment, plus I'm not keen on anyone knowing what I'm growing as a general rule...if the State (and other people) were involved I would always be subject to potential complications and random interventions. But two big secret rooms would be the ideal playfield for me and I think I could produce some real buds. 20 or more pounds a year. Now we're talking a hobby that pays.
So I'm fairly certain if I had a house in Michigan (which I just happen to have) I could probably grow 24 plants and say the other 12 were for my spouse. If anyone asked. Which I'm having a hard time imagining anyone will do. The fines for going over the individual limit are pretty much nothing except they could take some of the plants. But it's legal so I could just keep on growing my 12 and start 12 more somewhere else. And with nowhere to even buy pot yet in the state, and an entire universe of grows and dispensaries in the complicated process of being set up, enforcement of plant counts in grows they don't even know about seems a very minor priority or even possibility unless I attract attention somehow which I'm pretty good at not doing.
The real point is, the opportunity to grow some serious (for me) weed has just dropped into my lap. I believe I am skilled enough at this point to take two big rooms and create a truly professional-level grow and the State of Michigan just agreed with me by making the opportunity legal. I think the green light is pretty much fully on for me to step it up.
So I'm doing the research. This little lab of mine might soon give way to a much more meaningful operation. My goal is to determine the overall viability of such a plan in the next few weeks.
And as much as I like growing weed, I have a feeling this is going to find a way to happen. Soon I want my own actual forest of cannabis. To disappear into and never be seen again.
I turned 59 yesterday. I feel pretty good for my age. There are always new horizons no matter how old you are because it's really about how old you feel. The growing techniques that I have learned over the past three years are undeniably valuable and might now serve me well. Thank you Michigan for coming to your senses. We're about to become real pals.
Have a great day!
Peace, Hyena
I wish you success if you make the move. If I already had a place in Michigan that’s where I would be I think. Keep us up to date on how things are going!
MagicJim
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Happy Birthday then HM. 
I wish I had an opportunity like this. I just become more hope each day that perhaps USA will reschedule cannabis. Good luck.
I wish I had an opportunity like this. I just become more hope each day that perhaps USA will reschedule cannabis. Good luck.
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I'm not moving...I think my current lab would be great to start/establish plants/clones, and that would ensure my larger grow is always fully stocked and fully productive without having to sprout seeds and all that first-month stuff there. Just late vegging and flowering. I think three 12-plant runs a year is extremely doable.
Peace, Hyena
Latitude17
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Do the Michigan laws require residency, or just that you be a legal property owner? Seems like an interesting loophole.
I went from an unused 4x4 closet to a 20x20 space and will never go back if I can help it - careful what you wish for HM!
I'm looking forward to following your continued adventures and wish you the best luck either way - you've been a huge part of my personal growing success, and I thank you for that.
I went from an unused 4x4 closet to a 20x20 space and will never go back if I can help it - careful what you wish for HM!
I'm looking forward to following your continued adventures and wish you the best luck either way - you've been a huge part of my personal growing success, and I thank you for that.
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Do the Michigan laws require residency, or just that you be a legal property owner? Seems like an interesting loophole.
I went from an unused 4x4 closet to a 20x20 space and will never go back if I can help it - careful what you wish for HM!
I'm looking forward to following your continued adventures and wish you the best luck either way - you've been a huge part of my personal growing success, and I thank you for that.
Thank you for the props my friend. Means a lot.
Michigan...No residency requirement, just legal domain over the property. Which we have. Actually probably going to pick up another one on the southern Michigan border, much closer. Really excited about the possibilities.
Peace, Hyena
425jesse
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Hyeeeeena!! That is some exciting news! I cant wait to see how things progress over the next year!
Cheers!
Cheers!
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It's a beautiful Tuesday...why not a
PROJECT 28 UPDATE!
This project has gone off the rails in several directions...I start this update by stating I have no idea what I am going to end up with despite all my tender love and significant experience. Growing living things is still a crap shoot.
On the plus side, this is a nice hedge of cannabis, blooming nicely and getting frosty.
But the temperature swings among other things have taken their toll...two plants are dead. Completely changed like magic, from nice and healthy (looking)...to dead. I have been evaluating this situation now in great detail and I believe I have the answer.
The uncontrollable 20-degree temperature swings have had a destabilizing effect on several of my girls but it doesn't explain their death...the other plants are just fine. I have grown this same Blue Hyena multiple times with similar stress and had great results. I think the crucial evidence is the location of the dead plants. The back section of my grow grid is under the two "1000" LED's (actually about 400W true power draw each) and even with only the BLOOM lights on (about half the LEDs) thy are very intense. Too intense. I really think they simply fried my plants. I have had them as close to my plant tops as I used to have HID's in vented hoods but it's too much...there's nothing else it could be.
I raised them all the way to the ceiling and now we will see if the middle-back plant recovers some, it seems like it's getting crispy as well and both it's rear-row-mates are already croaked. If its leaf deterioration stabilizes some in the next week I will have confirmation that the light intensity was the key problem. By comparison, the three older Mars 300s that illuminate my front row are all sustaining nice, perfect plants.
We are getting nice flowering from all remaining girls.
This grow, using all the same genetics, is teaching me how much true diversity exists within a single strain. While earlier growth demonstrated I have a taller and shorter phenotype, now blooming is showing even more differences-in aroma. There are two distinctly different scent profiles too...and the shorter pheno is the one with the incredible sweet-fruity smell (and taste) that is the finest feature of my strain. This one trait is so luscious, smoking the fruity pheno is heaven and is the sweetest most delicious smoke I've ever had bar none. So I have been keenly interested in isolating it if possible but I've also realized that would be a multi-generational prospect at the minimum...this genetic/breeding stuff takes an annoying amount of time.
But as the twists and turns of this grow unravel, maybe I have a chance to do just that after all...
I have examined the Queen every day for signs of maleness, and all of a sudden...here comes a bunch of male flower clusters appearing up and down ONE branch.
Now what do I do? I long ago abandoned hope of producing enough seeds for marketing, and realized the strain wasn't ready yet anyway, but now, if I get some pollen, I can fertilize each pheno and possibly isolate the sweet/fruity gene, maybe even combine it with the tall pheno characteristics of the Queen. Ideally I would want to duplicate that particular combination if I could get it. Maybe this is the way. So I'm excited. Again.
A couple strange polyploid branches here and there...odd.
I fully realize it might be too late to get pollen, then fertilize, then have viable seeds develop...that would mean another 8-10 weeks. God what a grind these sativa genetics are...flowering never ends. We'll see if my patience is sufficient.
But if it is, I will be the guy hiding behind a ton of marijuana.
Have a good day!
Peace, Hyena
PROJECT 28 UPDATE!
This project has gone off the rails in several directions...I start this update by stating I have no idea what I am going to end up with despite all my tender love and significant experience. Growing living things is still a crap shoot.
On the plus side, this is a nice hedge of cannabis, blooming nicely and getting frosty.
But the temperature swings among other things have taken their toll...two plants are dead. Completely changed like magic, from nice and healthy (looking)...to dead. I have been evaluating this situation now in great detail and I believe I have the answer.
The uncontrollable 20-degree temperature swings have had a destabilizing effect on several of my girls but it doesn't explain their death...the other plants are just fine. I have grown this same Blue Hyena multiple times with similar stress and had great results. I think the crucial evidence is the location of the dead plants. The back section of my grow grid is under the two "1000" LED's (actually about 400W true power draw each) and even with only the BLOOM lights on (about half the LEDs) thy are very intense. Too intense. I really think they simply fried my plants. I have had them as close to my plant tops as I used to have HID's in vented hoods but it's too much...there's nothing else it could be.
I raised them all the way to the ceiling and now we will see if the middle-back plant recovers some, it seems like it's getting crispy as well and both it's rear-row-mates are already croaked. If its leaf deterioration stabilizes some in the next week I will have confirmation that the light intensity was the key problem. By comparison, the three older Mars 300s that illuminate my front row are all sustaining nice, perfect plants.
We are getting nice flowering from all remaining girls.
This grow, using all the same genetics, is teaching me how much true diversity exists within a single strain. While earlier growth demonstrated I have a taller and shorter phenotype, now blooming is showing even more differences-in aroma. There are two distinctly different scent profiles too...and the shorter pheno is the one with the incredible sweet-fruity smell (and taste) that is the finest feature of my strain. This one trait is so luscious, smoking the fruity pheno is heaven and is the sweetest most delicious smoke I've ever had bar none. So I have been keenly interested in isolating it if possible but I've also realized that would be a multi-generational prospect at the minimum...this genetic/breeding stuff takes an annoying amount of time.
But as the twists and turns of this grow unravel, maybe I have a chance to do just that after all...
I have examined the Queen every day for signs of maleness, and all of a sudden...here comes a bunch of male flower clusters appearing up and down ONE branch.
Now what do I do? I long ago abandoned hope of producing enough seeds for marketing, and realized the strain wasn't ready yet anyway, but now, if I get some pollen, I can fertilize each pheno and possibly isolate the sweet/fruity gene, maybe even combine it with the tall pheno characteristics of the Queen. Ideally I would want to duplicate that particular combination if I could get it. Maybe this is the way. So I'm excited. Again.
A couple strange polyploid branches here and there...odd.
I fully realize it might be too late to get pollen, then fertilize, then have viable seeds develop...that would mean another 8-10 weeks. God what a grind these sativa genetics are...flowering never ends. We'll see if my patience is sufficient.
But if it is, I will be the guy hiding behind a ton of marijuana.
Have a good day!
Peace, Hyena
425jesse
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We’ve got Balls! The adventure continues! Cheers Bro.
Decisions, decisions.... hard to say what to do with the Male parts showing up so late. If you go with bean production its gonna be a long flower. Now you hit the nail on the head with the difference even in a strain that's somewhat stabilized. Even then your still at the mercy of nature, so there's bound to be mutants and DNA that mutates and creates different thc, tarps, etc.. makes a guy appreciate bean that make stable phnomes.
I’d go for the seeds, perfect chance to isolate the sweet pheno.