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Hahahahaha hyena you crack me up brother.
Let me know when you want to try those rooster nukes. I’ve been in a giving mood lately
PM me bro the time has come!
Peace, Hyena
Hyena's Never-Ending Adventures In Growing
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PM me bro the time has come!
Peace, Hyena
Like Justin trudeau
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Oprah is more popular with growers
The rooster
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Not this one lol I have a business mindset where when I want something I go out and get it. I don't show sympathy because everything I have tried in my life I have went in with a successful attitude and succeeded. And I feel more people can do the same if they just hold that attitude.
Trump has that attitude. He has a fuck the world attitude I relate to. He doesn't care what people think. He just does. That's how I act.
I love everyone but I don't let anyone slow me down and I don't feel bad for you because you quit your job 15 times and can't find a new one.
That's just my mentality. I obviously show sympathy for people that deserve it that fall on hard times. But I show no sympathy for the people that can't get out of their own way. And Oprah caters to those people with that mindset. That's not what my nation was founded on. We were founded on hard work respect and not letting anyone say we can't do what we are going to do.
Somewhere along the way we seem to have lost that by gaining feelings for people that could care less about us.
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This just released from the White House...
I like collusion. Can't we all just get along?
Peace, Hyena
I like collusion. Can't we all just get along?
Peace, Hyena
The rooster
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Someone should cross White Russian and American Kush and call it Russian collusion 
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Someone should cross White Russian and American Kush and call it Russian collusion
You're a riot dude!
Peace, Hyena
I'll have to remember that, I've got some AK47 in my stash.
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Waiting room update from Hyena Hospital...
About seeds. I believe some commercial seeds are pretty fresh. Also I think some seeds you buy are 1-2 years old or even more. I don't know if there's that much difference in their viability either way if they have been properly stored, I haven't noticed it anyway, since using seeds several months old and several years old gives me the same germination rate pretty much, though none of mine go back more than 3 years probably at most.
Some say there's a real falloff in viability after a certain amount of time, which varies depending upon who you read. On the other hand, I have read about people sprouting 25+ year-old seeds, though rarely.
I have planted 5 varieties including one cross of my own (Hyena Berry), from three different breeders, so we have a good cross section.
Seventeen seeds started all at once. As of today, we have a clear winner...
ALL THREE Hyena Berries are up...and nobody else!
I'm sure everybody else will be appearing soon...but wow! Only the fifth day since planting dry beans...and I wasn't even sure they were viable. I didn't know if there would even BE a Hyena Berry! For all 3 to bust loose so fast makes me really curious to see how they will grow and what they will look, smell, and smoke like! Maybe a super-plant? An X-plant?
More to come.
Peace, Hyena
About seeds. I believe some commercial seeds are pretty fresh. Also I think some seeds you buy are 1-2 years old or even more. I don't know if there's that much difference in their viability either way if they have been properly stored, I haven't noticed it anyway, since using seeds several months old and several years old gives me the same germination rate pretty much, though none of mine go back more than 3 years probably at most.
Some say there's a real falloff in viability after a certain amount of time, which varies depending upon who you read. On the other hand, I have read about people sprouting 25+ year-old seeds, though rarely.
I have planted 5 varieties including one cross of my own (Hyena Berry), from three different breeders, so we have a good cross section.
Seventeen seeds started all at once. As of today, we have a clear winner...
ALL THREE Hyena Berries are up...and nobody else!
I'm sure everybody else will be appearing soon...but wow! Only the fifth day since planting dry beans...and I wasn't even sure they were viable. I didn't know if there would even BE a Hyena Berry! For all 3 to bust loose so fast makes me really curious to see how they will grow and what they will look, smell, and smoke like! Maybe a super-plant? An X-plant?
More to come.
Peace, Hyena
What did you cross the Hyena with?
They are eager to grow !
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HYENA BERRY is a cross between PLUSHBERRY and CHEESE BERRY, both pretty fruity and awesome strains. I crossed them about a year ago.
We'll see what they do!
Peace, Hyena
Ahh ok, I'll be watching those 3
Tony Urban
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Salutations Hyena,
I am humbly inviting you to participate in an advanced cannabis photographers thread. I would like you to be a contributor and supporter of this thread if it interests you. All it requires is to submit a brief bio, quoting the second post, and helping out when you can or sharing information from time to time.
I know you dont have a lot of time to take pics but you still manage to get em.
Cheers
The 420 Fotographer Collective
I am humbly inviting you to participate in an advanced cannabis photographers thread. I would like you to be a contributor and supporter of this thread if it interests you. All it requires is to submit a brief bio, quoting the second post, and helping out when you can or sharing information from time to time.
I know you dont have a lot of time to take pics but you still manage to get em.
Cheers
The 420 Fotographer Collective
pino0911
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Hey Hyena i will say this i will stary my journal soon. I popped a couple Hyenas and i can strongly agree to very FAST and STRONG germination. Best beans ive popped so far!! When i start the joirnal u will be the first to know. They are at about three nodes up atm!! Thanks for being such a great neighbor in this fantastic community! Keep up the great work and cant wait to see what 2018 will come up with in the SECRET ATTIC!!! Been here from the beginning and will be here at the ending!!
The rooster
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Can't wait pino!
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Hey Urbie,
Thanks for the invite. I'm certainly interested as you guessed.
I will check it out.
Peace, Hyena
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It's Thursday! Time for the
PROJECT 27 UPDATE!
Babies, babies everywhere!
The HYENA BERRY seeds went five-for-five and were the first up out of 5 varieties.
The rest weren't far behind!
In all, 15 out of 17 seeds are showing life after 5 days in the ground. To be fair, four or five are still showing the stem but have not popped up and displayed leaves, and one of the White Widow came up without cotyledons so probably toast. But only the single Liberty Haze in the right rear pot has not stirred...naturally, the one pot with only one seed may not pop. GRRRRRRR...
Now sit down, people. This might be something special!
Talking the other day about seeds and germinating and viability, etc., I remembered, sort of, that I thought I had a stash of seeds from the early 1990's. Somewhere.
I had no idea where to begin, but when the thought popped into my mind I happened to be in the attic, so I started digging in boxes and bags of stuff from when George Bush SENIOR was President. I spent a couple hours enjoying seeing lots of little trinkets and mementos from my 20's and 30's, hard to believe all the shit we keep for no particular reason except we think someday we will be old and look at it all and remember...and I guess I'm there, really.
Wow, life just flies by.
So I'm actually wrapping up, stuffing shit back into places it came out of, and a small box catches my eye. I opened it up and lo and behold, here is a ziploc bag containing a half-dozen film canisters containing...seeds!
I instantly remembered the origin of most of these seeds, some from as far back as 1988. Super Elvis, Mother of Elvis, Funk III, and some wicked greenbud from Athens, Ohio. The Elvis thing is a play on our standard term back then for really great bud, we always called killer weed "The shit that killed Elvis". This was my seedbank for an early project where I tried growing some in our first house, shortly after we got married, a micro version of my present lab which was also located in the attic. The grow was a cute little hobby back when I didn't know the first thing about growing pot. Probably got two ounces from five plants, under a couple fluorescents...those were the days.
I started to consider whether there was any chance they might still grow. These seeds have probably zero viability since they are nearly three decades old. Plus, the attic gets to 125 degrees some days and below zero others and they have been in one attic or another all those years, with no special protection except being dry and in the dark, they have to be dried out. Then I thought for a second more and remembered why I do this...because it's cool. What would be cooler than reaching back in time and growing a plant from so long ago, before the explosion of modern genetics, something from the days of Acapulco Gold and Panama Red and Maui Wowie...
Realistically, can nearly thirty-year-old seeds sprout? Does anyone know?
Well...I instantly became very interested in the challenge! Remember, I'm a mad scientist in a secret attic laboratory. There must be some way to raise the dead!
First, my research on the subject within the cannabis forums produced a lot of speculation but no example of a 30-year-old seed germinating. Ten years was asserted a couple times but those were third party accounts, the general body of knowledge seems to indicate seeds in general only last so long unless they are stored in hermetically sealed, humidity- and temperature-controlled environments.
So, how long is too long? Take seedbanks for example. I'm sure seedbanks try to sell the freshest seeds they can for a host of reasons. But you have to believe it may not be unusual to get seeds from seedbanks that are a few years old, maybe even more...logic tells me all of them can't be selling everything they have every year plus it has to take years to develop seed strains and prove them, etc., so there have to be multiple reasons why seeds can be a few years old yet they still sprout.
I turned to the internet with a vengeance.
I learned about seed banks containing the seeds for all the flora in the known world, located in caves and underground vaults and stuff. Even with all that most experts seem to think each year of storage a percentage of all seeds lose viability, and so they update/refresh the ones they can periodically. That didn't give me much hope, especially if the world's seed experts don't think it's generally possible.
But then, I found THIS: "The oldest mature seed that has grown into a viable plant was a Judean date palm seed about 2,000 years old, recovered from excavations at Herod the Great's palace on Masada in Israel. It was germinated in 2005."
Suddenly, a 30-year-old pot seed sprouting didn't seem impossible. I decided to just try and see.
The five film canisters contain about 30-40 seeds each. I got out the seed mat and soaked three of each of the varieties in spring water for 48 hours, keeping the temperature at exactly 68 degrees. I checked them periodically, as I'm used to action in as little as 24-48 hours using this method then transferring them to paper towels. And it has sometimes taken seeds as long as five days to pop.
After 48 hours I was ready to throw the mess away, actually feeling a little silly but still not entirely unbelieving. I figured I'd pull them from the long soak and place them into the paper towels and give it some more time. I pulled out the magnifying glass and took one more glance at the beans...
When I saw this!
IT'S ALIVE...IT'S ALIVE!! -Victor Frankenstein
Igor, Inga and I jumped up from the table and ran to the lab...wait...sorry. But that's how it felt! A seed three decades old...come to life! I couldn't get up to the lab fast enough. I planted it in the right-rear pot, with the still-not-stirring lone Liberty Haze seed. We will now see if it will root and emerge!
The only thing I know for sure about these old seeds is they came from really good buds. Of course, back in those days really good wasn't like it is today but I am still madly curious to see if this girl will come up (and maybe a couple more, I will definitely give them all ten days now!) and how it might end up. It might be a male for all I know which might make it valuable or maybe not...don't know the value of breeding something from 1990 with the herb of today. Yes? No? Maybe? But if the resulting plants came out killer it might have a real appeal to some folks...Jurassic Weed? I've simply never heard of anyone doing this, (or even why someone would) so we're in brand-new uncharted waters. Hey, I love it!
My first thought was, breed it with Blue Hyena and have an undeniable new strain. Certainly nobody could claim similar genetics! Would that new strain be unique? I would say yes! My new goal is to bring to life this new hybrid made up of genetics separated by time...
HYENASAURUS WILL LIVE!
So, that's a dream. Let's see if it happens!
First, we have to get this little time-traveling girl from the distant past above-ground and rooted...
Wish me luck. More to come!
Peace, Hyena
PROJECT 27 UPDATE!
Babies, babies everywhere!
The HYENA BERRY seeds went five-for-five and were the first up out of 5 varieties.
The rest weren't far behind!
In all, 15 out of 17 seeds are showing life after 5 days in the ground. To be fair, four or five are still showing the stem but have not popped up and displayed leaves, and one of the White Widow came up without cotyledons so probably toast. But only the single Liberty Haze in the right rear pot has not stirred...naturally, the one pot with only one seed may not pop. GRRRRRRR...
Now sit down, people. This might be something special!
Talking the other day about seeds and germinating and viability, etc., I remembered, sort of, that I thought I had a stash of seeds from the early 1990's. Somewhere.
I had no idea where to begin, but when the thought popped into my mind I happened to be in the attic, so I started digging in boxes and bags of stuff from when George Bush SENIOR was President. I spent a couple hours enjoying seeing lots of little trinkets and mementos from my 20's and 30's, hard to believe all the shit we keep for no particular reason except we think someday we will be old and look at it all and remember...and I guess I'm there, really.
Wow, life just flies by.
So I'm actually wrapping up, stuffing shit back into places it came out of, and a small box catches my eye. I opened it up and lo and behold, here is a ziploc bag containing a half-dozen film canisters containing...seeds!
I instantly remembered the origin of most of these seeds, some from as far back as 1988. Super Elvis, Mother of Elvis, Funk III, and some wicked greenbud from Athens, Ohio. The Elvis thing is a play on our standard term back then for really great bud, we always called killer weed "The shit that killed Elvis". This was my seedbank for an early project where I tried growing some in our first house, shortly after we got married, a micro version of my present lab which was also located in the attic. The grow was a cute little hobby back when I didn't know the first thing about growing pot. Probably got two ounces from five plants, under a couple fluorescents...those were the days.
I started to consider whether there was any chance they might still grow. These seeds have probably zero viability since they are nearly three decades old. Plus, the attic gets to 125 degrees some days and below zero others and they have been in one attic or another all those years, with no special protection except being dry and in the dark, they have to be dried out. Then I thought for a second more and remembered why I do this...because it's cool. What would be cooler than reaching back in time and growing a plant from so long ago, before the explosion of modern genetics, something from the days of Acapulco Gold and Panama Red and Maui Wowie...
Realistically, can nearly thirty-year-old seeds sprout? Does anyone know?
Well...I instantly became very interested in the challenge! Remember, I'm a mad scientist in a secret attic laboratory. There must be some way to raise the dead!
First, my research on the subject within the cannabis forums produced a lot of speculation but no example of a 30-year-old seed germinating. Ten years was asserted a couple times but those were third party accounts, the general body of knowledge seems to indicate seeds in general only last so long unless they are stored in hermetically sealed, humidity- and temperature-controlled environments.
So, how long is too long? Take seedbanks for example. I'm sure seedbanks try to sell the freshest seeds they can for a host of reasons. But you have to believe it may not be unusual to get seeds from seedbanks that are a few years old, maybe even more...logic tells me all of them can't be selling everything they have every year plus it has to take years to develop seed strains and prove them, etc., so there have to be multiple reasons why seeds can be a few years old yet they still sprout.
I turned to the internet with a vengeance.
I learned about seed banks containing the seeds for all the flora in the known world, located in caves and underground vaults and stuff. Even with all that most experts seem to think each year of storage a percentage of all seeds lose viability, and so they update/refresh the ones they can periodically. That didn't give me much hope, especially if the world's seed experts don't think it's generally possible.
But then, I found THIS: "The oldest mature seed that has grown into a viable plant was a Judean date palm seed about 2,000 years old, recovered from excavations at Herod the Great's palace on Masada in Israel. It was germinated in 2005."
Suddenly, a 30-year-old pot seed sprouting didn't seem impossible. I decided to just try and see.
The five film canisters contain about 30-40 seeds each. I got out the seed mat and soaked three of each of the varieties in spring water for 48 hours, keeping the temperature at exactly 68 degrees. I checked them periodically, as I'm used to action in as little as 24-48 hours using this method then transferring them to paper towels. And it has sometimes taken seeds as long as five days to pop.
After 48 hours I was ready to throw the mess away, actually feeling a little silly but still not entirely unbelieving. I figured I'd pull them from the long soak and place them into the paper towels and give it some more time. I pulled out the magnifying glass and took one more glance at the beans...
When I saw this!
IT'S ALIVE...IT'S ALIVE!! -Victor Frankenstein
Igor, Inga and I jumped up from the table and ran to the lab...wait...sorry. But that's how it felt! A seed three decades old...come to life! I couldn't get up to the lab fast enough. I planted it in the right-rear pot, with the still-not-stirring lone Liberty Haze seed. We will now see if it will root and emerge!
The only thing I know for sure about these old seeds is they came from really good buds. Of course, back in those days really good wasn't like it is today but I am still madly curious to see if this girl will come up (and maybe a couple more, I will definitely give them all ten days now!) and how it might end up. It might be a male for all I know which might make it valuable or maybe not...don't know the value of breeding something from 1990 with the herb of today. Yes? No? Maybe? But if the resulting plants came out killer it might have a real appeal to some folks...Jurassic Weed? I've simply never heard of anyone doing this, (or even why someone would) so we're in brand-new uncharted waters. Hey, I love it!
My first thought was, breed it with Blue Hyena and have an undeniable new strain. Certainly nobody could claim similar genetics! Would that new strain be unique? I would say yes! My new goal is to bring to life this new hybrid made up of genetics separated by time...
HYENASAURUS WILL LIVE!
So, that's a dream. Let's see if it happens!
First, we have to get this little time-traveling girl from the distant past above-ground and rooted...
Wish me luck. More to come!
Peace, Hyena
MagicJim
Creme de la Creme Photos: Sept 2016
Man I'm pulling for you. I found film cans full of possibly 30 year old seeds a couple of years ago. I've tried to germ about 10 a year for the past 2 years trying to unleash an historic find but no luck here.
You can do this.
You can do this.