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And to hell with guessing game at this point. Momma and clones are gorilla glue, 2 of the bean bonanzas ended up being what I thought momma was supposed to be which is Tora Bora, and the other is just a kosher kush that I’ve always had. Only a few weeks left so no point in making everyone guess :)
 
budnoob3 said:
And to hell with guessing game at this point. Momma and clones are gorilla glue, 2 of the bean bonanzas ended up being what I thought momma was supposed to be which is Tora Bora, and the other is just a kosher kush that I’ve always had. Only a few weeks left so no point in making everyone guess :)
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Never heard of tora bora let me know how she smokes!!! Sounds like it might have some northern lights in her.
 
And call me crazy if you want, but girls all had their final feeding this weekend. I know as well as anyone that I could keep feeding and get larger more dense buds. But since I’m not so worried about yield because I have more than what I need, I prefer a clean finish with nothing but rain from here on out. Helps for the recycling of soil and I end up with a very clean smoke and concentrate in the end. My choice alone, leaves are dying off, temps are getting lower so not much my girls will do to leverage the extra nutrients which would only tend to make my next run too high in P and K if I did keep feeding in my opinion.
 

Tora Bora (Reserva Privada) :: Cannabis Strain Info

The Tora Bora is a peaceful meeting of a pure Pakistani and a pure Afghani! This cross is a mix of two legendary strains; the LA known for a slow veg, modest yield, and Great Powerful flavor; and, the X-18 known for stretching in the first month only...
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Kosher Kush (Garden of Green) :: Cannabis Strain Info

Very famous for its mouth-watering flavours and high dynamite potency. Kosher Kush won The High Times Indica Cup in 2010 and 2011. The strain has a very strong aroma complete with worm body relaxation and stress alleviation. Also reported that it rel...
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Gorilla Glue (Lineage Genetics) :: Cannabis Strain Info

GORILLA GLUE feminised seeds now available from us after much demand we decided to release. We originally used our GORILLA GLUE in some of our new crosses such as CANDY GLUE, STRAWBERRY DESSERT and PINEAPPLE DYNAMITE and several other crosses that we...
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More closeups GG momma
If I had PM problem I wouldn’t be sad about chopping now, but I don’t so couple more weeks should be where I prefer:

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Next featured grow will be primarily indoor Buddha’s Sister now that seeds are on the way. Now that I finally found her thanks to fellow members! The new features for this grow will include testing with home made fish ferts per Azi and Gee recs, combined with bill’s layering and lower feeding percentages. I’ll also be testing the seed starting methods with banana peel trick. Finally, I will be keeping at least a couple clones in veg until spring to transition outdoors and keeping at least one in scrog to the finish. I’ve been waiting a long time to work with Buddha so hopefully she does as well as I imagine she will to be an alternative to my kosher kush night time remedy :)
 
So on this playground run you may have noticed I did some rather unorthodox things that may or may not have been mentioned briefly. For instance, brief mentions of training options that were never actually employed. Planting seeds and clones directly into 10ga fabric pots with no up potting or transitions and so on. This was intentional to show what’s possible in the laziest way possible for others and to dispel some myths and exhibit what some expected behaviors you might experience without implementing any of the added techniques which may be beneficial but not required to start your own journey. Going forward I will be including a lot more techniques I have used along with my new experiments to hopefully elicit more active collaboration for all of our benefits hopefully.
 
As for this grow even with only a couple weeks left the samples and final harvest will spend at least 6 weeks in grove bags before I weigh and tally up values to see how close my early predictions for weight of momma GG compare to reality. Reminder, I predicted 7-10 oz for momma cured weight even though I’d never grown GG before. We shall see :) only about 10 weeks to go.
 
As for the items you may or may not have noticed and what I believe it teaches us are as follows:
Testing with clones is perfect scenario - not necessarily true. GG momma with clones taken from similar locations at different yet same locations and times for each round all still displayed varying patterns of growth and health even when not subjected to testing that was featured. While it provides best comparison in my opinion, at least organically it’s nearly impossible to ensure all variables are equal for someone like me.
As for lack of training, the evidence will not become apparent until I share same methods with my training preferences for same strain as this run (most likely separate thread in future).
Avoiding up potting, hopefully everyone is aware why this is not recommended and reasons/proof why will be exhibited going forward now that we’ve proven that it’s not required but will show how beneficial and discuss why.
There’s more but we can start with that and hope for some spirited and respectful debates on how to improve going forward :)
 
Bean bonanza
KK, TB1, and TB2

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By the way, crispy is still same size and never improved. She’s still only getting rain water and will be chopped with other clones within a couple weeks. She’s a sad one and probably less than 3 zips in the end but it will still provide some good meds and edibles in the end so no loss at all. In fact a huge gain if my suspicions are correct which will be proven hopefully with the Buddha Sister run coming soon using @Bill284 layering method….
 
To tell on myself for those that may not have noticed; I make some controversial and unconventional statements at times. I do this in the same manner as politicians or lawyers might do to encourage recognition and debate. It has not been as successful as I hoped but it has worked at least to a minor degree. Please know this much, I want everyone to focus on what’s best for us all and our world whatever that takes. I don’t need or want credit for anything, I just want to piss off enough people to make our meaningful message to spread. You and I have the power to save lives or at least reduce the suffering and leave that legacy behind for our children and grandchildren to improve upon. Call me crazy or open your eyes and realize what’s possible by our hands alone. I’ve not been very successful with exception of those very close to me. I even have a good friend that I love and was and avid smoker and dead head that refused help from concentrate we lost out of skepticism. She’s now a martyr while me and my dad are essentially prophets of what’s possible. It hurts me that my message hasn’t been able to help more; I’m nearly 100% certain my pride has gotten in the way of that. I have always seemed recognition for my accomplishments and felt good about that recognition so my only goal now is to share what I can do that someone deserving will absorb, spread it and get the recognition I’ve always wanted yet don’t deserve.
 
Azimuth said:
There's been some discussion on the boards about egg shells not being the best source of calcium due to a protective coating that makes them very difficult to breakdown, at least in any reasonable time frame.

Dolomite lime and bone meal (especially fish bone meal) seem to be the go-to's for organic calcium.
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budnoob3 said:
To tell on myself for those that may not have noticed; I make some controversial and unconventional statements at times. I do this in the same manner as politicians or lawyers might do to encourage recognition and debate. It has not been as successful as I hoped but it has worked at least to a minor degree. Please know this much, I want everyone to focus on what’s best for us all and our world whatever that takes. I don’t need or want credit for anything, I just want to piss off enough people to make our meaningful message to spread. You and I have the power to save lives or at least reduce the suffering and leave that legacy behind for our children and grandchildren to improve upon. Call me crazy or open your eyes and realize what’s possible by our hands alone. I’ve not been very successful with exception of those very close to me. I even have a good friend that I love and was and avid smoker and dead head that refused help from concentrate we lost out of skepticism. She’s now a martyr while me and my dad are essentially prophets of what’s possible. It hurts me that my message hasn’t been able to help more; I’m nearly 100% certain my pride has gotten in the way of that. I have always seemed recognition for my accomplishments and felt good about that recognition so my only goal now is to share what I can do that someone deserving will absorb, spread it and get the recognition I’ve always wanted yet don’t deserve.
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I’m so glad to have found a community of like-minded individuals! My journey into sustainable, regenerative, and holistic permaculture has been a lifelong adventure, rooted in the self-sustaining farming traditions passed down from both sides of my family. Growing up in this culture, I took many things for granted—simple practices like my grandmother adding boiled eggshells and banana peels to her rose bush beds. I later realized the importance of these little details, like boiling the shells first to remove their protective coating, making nutrients more available to the plants. And who could forget the endless use of coffee grounds or the habit of saving bones for broth?

I’ve studied permaculture and aquaponics, hoping to follow in the footsteps of pioneers like Geoff Lawton. Yet, I quickly learned that not everyone shares the same passion for self-sufficiency. What seemed second nature to me—like turning fish bones into bone meal with a pressure cooker and coffee grinder—felt foreign to many.

To be honest, I’ve often hesitated, afraid of making mistakes. In the past, I opted to pay for results that ultimately failed, but I’m here now to build confidence in my own knowledge and trust my experience. Whether successful or not, I’m always learning, and more importantly, I’m saving money along the way. This journey isn’t just about farming—it’s about rediscovering and trusting in ourselves, in the wisdom passed down, and in the endless opportunities to grow.
:Namaste: :ganjamon:
Thank you all for your contributions.
 
GuardianRager said:
I’m so glad to have found a community of like-minded individuals! My journey into sustainable, regenerative, and holistic permaculture has been a lifelong adventure, rooted in the self-sustaining farming traditions passed down from both sides of my family. Growing up in this culture, I took many things for granted—simple practices like my grandmother adding boiled eggshells and banana peels to her rose bush beds. I later realized the importance of these little details, like boiling the shells first to remove their protective coating, making nutrients more available to the plants. And who could forget the endless use of coffee grounds or the habit of saving bones for broth?

I’ve studied permaculture and aquaponics, hoping to follow in the footsteps of pioneers like Geoff Lawton. Yet, I quickly learned that not everyone shares the same passion for self-sufficiency. What seemed second nature to me—like turning fish bones into bone meal with a pressure cooker and coffee grinder—felt foreign to many.

To be honest, I’ve often hesitated, afraid of making mistakes. In the past, I opted to pay for results that ultimately failed, but I’m here now to build confidence in my own knowledge and trust my experience. Whether successful or not, I’m always learning, and more importantly, I’m saving money along the way. This journey isn’t just about farming—it’s about rediscovering and trusting in ourselves, in the wisdom passed down, and in the endless opportunities to grow.
:Namaste: :ganjamon:
Thank you all for your contributions.
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There’s much to be said for those seeking truth and believing what they’ve learned to be best and spreading it. Even more to be said for those who accept with blind faith and improve upon it. All we need is to keep an open mind, learn, improve, and worst case disprove what is not helpful even if only for ourselves. A big part of my journey has been to learn that there’s no benefit in targeting what’s not useful so long as it’s not harmful. Most everything will work well albeit not best in our minds for the future. Goal is not to disprove anyone or anything. Goal is to debate and encourage best ways possible for everyone’s benefit without alienating anyone. Power of example is more valuable than words any day of the week :)
 
Ok, Mother Nature has proven me wrong on mold this year. Despite the citric acid treatments early signs started to appear so all 4 GG got chopped and treated a week or two earlier than I’d hoped. Bean bonanzas are still fine and will keep going. All friends given clones have been forewarned to keep a close eye and chop if necessary. It’s been a very rainy year so not much of a surprise…
 
As for bud washing and why I believe it’s fine even though I don’t typically do it. I typically treat thoroughly with citric acid on chop/trim day. Yes, I find wet trimming to be easier for me too. If you’ve ever painted and tried to wash a brush used in oil based paint with water you see that the water beads up and makes a mess of the brush because oil paint is not water soluble. In the same way your resins and trichomes are not water soluble hence no damage to resin and trichomes from rain, water or citric acid fungicide. Similarly that’s why alcohol (solvents which I never use) are effective for extraction purposes. The only problem with too much water or humidity is obviously mold and mildew issues. My thoughts on this…
 
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