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FelipeBlu said:
Also, fertigating every watering with a half concentration is what I recall being promoted by the original Hempy in an old Mr Nice forum post.
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So you’re saying dilute to half strength?
 
Tead said:
Often I'm overwhelmed by the options... and we're just talking hempy pots. I can't even keep 1/4 of them in mind at any given times. Totally overwhelmed.
When you consider the other forms of growing, I really feel that we've got enough variations available for every human to take a unique path.
Crazy numbers.
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Amen! Lol! I love that there are so many ways to skin the Canna cat. It means we can smile lovingly at the person screaming that their way is the best way. :battingeyelashes:
 
SweetSue said:
So you’re saying dilute to half strength?
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Yes, if you are using nutes with every watering. The plants don’t need a full concentration available all the time, as if they were in soil. But they do need to be able to find the minimum when they need it.
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How about cloning in perlite? Can you take a cutting, shove it (gently place it) down into perlite (preparing the cutting the same way I do for soil) and have success? The thing that keeps me smiling about growing in perlite is the fact that it stays moist but not wet which to me should greatly benefit the plant's root system and overall health.

Has anyone experimented with a graduated up-potting method? Start with a solo cup. When the roots near the bottom up-pot it into say a 3/4 or 1 gallon pot. When the roots near the bottom again up-pot it into a 2 or 3 gallon pot. I would think doing it once more (when the roots near the bottom) into a 5 gallon pot should be all a plant would need. I'm thinking it doesn't matter if the water/nutrients don't make it all the way to the top of a 5 gallon bucket. It's still wicking up high into the root zone giving the plant all it needs to live happy and healthy.
 
beez0404 said:
How about cloning in perlite? Can you take a cutting, shove it (gently place it) down into perlite (preparing the cutting the same way I do for soil) and have success?
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It's how I clone. Cut a piece, stick it in perlite with some root goo on it, cover it with a plastic bag, wait 2-3 weeks for signs of new growth. Sometimes I refresh the water 1/2 way thru.... sometimes not.

beez0404 said:
Has anyone experimented with a graduated up-potting method?
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Yes, but that's a good bit of work for the lazy gardener. Lots of folks do it.
 
beez0404 said:
How about cloning in perlite? Can you take a cutting, shove it (gently place it) down into perlite (preparing the cutting the same way I do for soil) and have success? The thing that keeps me smiling about growing in perlite is the fact that it stays moist but not wet which to me should greatly benefit the plant's root system and overall health.

Has anyone experimented with a graduated up-potting method? Start with a solo cup. When the roots near the bottom up-pot it into say a 3/4 or 1 gallon pot. When the roots near the bottom again up-pot it into a 2 or 3 gallon pot. I would think doing it once more (when the roots near the bottom) into a 5 gallon pot should be all a plant would need. I'm thinking it doesn't matter if the water/nutrients don't make it all the way to the top of a 5 gallon bucket. It's still wicking up high into the root zone giving the plant all it needs to live happy and healthy.
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All good thoughts beez. :battingeyelashes: Tead lives in the swamplands atmosphere of NOLA and clones like that all the time. I use the produce bags myself.

I’ve recently been considering a graduated approach with photos. So far I only make one transplant, but I think I’ll give this a shot with my next rooted clone I plan to grow out.

With autos I’m cautious about too much handling.
 
I guess the rookie noob in me has been faking it pretty well.

First in my feeding I choose to feed what some might be considered excessive "Daily". It just feels good and with each gallon of my nutrient mix costing me a little under $.12cents pouring to waste isn't hurting my bottom line at all.

Additionally, FelipeBlu had recommended early on with my first hempy experience to cut back by half my nutrient dose from my normal soil concentration. So did that. What really interesting is the amount I was giving my Rey Skywalker plant in soil was already less than he had recommended, but I was being extremely cautious as I didn't understand completely about nute burn or lockout.

Second I pour in fairly quickly 750ml and look for a fast runoff spurt that results in about 250ml of runoff. To me that means my plants are consuming about 500ml each day. It helps that I have manifold trained my plants as that opens a center portal for my feeding area, so I have ease of access to the center and surrounding areas.

I really like the "Fertigating" term. It feels like the technique I'm using. I'm charging my Hempy mix with fresh nutrients and fresh water and according to @FelipeBlu I'm also charging my growing area with a fresh supply of Oxygen.
 
FelipeBlu said:
Yes, if you are using nutes with every watering. The plants don’t need a full concentration available all the time, as if they were in soil. But they do need to be able to find the minimum when they need it.
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When Doob and I started using the diluted nutrients we weren’t aware that they were so diluted. We’d both used the new, more concentrated formula the first time and ordered the second run of bottles from eBay.

I didn’t see any lag in veg, but I remember him noticing a lack of performance in flower, until he started doubling up. We might want to be careful about flower.

I’ve wondered for a long time if I was making them a little soft by overfeeding. I’ll start experimenting. :battingeyelashes:
 
beez0404 said:
How about cloning in perlite? Has anyone experimented with a graduated up-potting method? Start with a solo cup. When the roots near the bottom up-pot it into say a 3/4 or 1 gallon pot.
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So far a graduated technique is the only way I have gone. It works for me from a couple of points. I start my clones in Root Riot Cubes with the Clonex Rooting Gel and Misting Spray in a propagation tray with a dome.
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This conserves space for multiple clones being started. Additionally if any fail, they didn't take up room in the process. Then I move them into 32oz Stadium Style Cups.
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These are small and short enough that multiples can be pushed together and fit under my T5 2bulb 6500K Blue Bulbs in my clone/seedling tote. I attribute the T5 lighting to the extremely tight node spacing I get early on. That node spacing helps prepare and sets up for the start of my topping and early LST into manifold growing.

As you saw in the pictures I sent you the transfer into the larger waste paper basket is fairly flawless with no damage or plant having to adapt to it's new environment.

I will admit my way of doing it might not be the most efficient or lazy way. However I like it, it works well for me, I feel I have more control over the performance of my plants and finally and most important I get to daily play with and enjoy my little green friends.
 
My first two hempy solo cup plants celebrate their 11th day birthdays today. I think they're doing quite well so far.
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I am experimenting with their feeding. Still using 50% strength nutrients. But instead of feeding/flushing every other day I am feeding/flushing every 3rd day. On day two now I am taking a pipette, filling it with 50% strength nutrients and squeezing it out from right up against the stalk outward to about 2-3 inches. A total of five pipettes filled with the nutrient rich water. My theory is that at this young age it is not necessary to flush out the reservoir every other day. I plan to continue doing this (unless there is a problem) until the plants start flowering. At that time I will most likely begin the watering/feeding every two days.
 
And yesterday I mentioned I had burned a 1 day old plant with 50% nutes by accident. The two tiny first permanent leaves were turning yellowish/brown and I was sure it would be deceased this morning. Well, call of the funeral cause she appears as though she might a tough gal and pull through.
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I have a small muffin fan blowing across the plants. They are kept right up at the lights to keep them short.
 
FelipeBlu said:
Yes, if you are using nutes with every watering. The plants don’t need a full concentration available all the time, as if they were in soil. But they do need to be able to find the minimum when they need it.
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I feed maxibloom 1 tsp per gallon, my 40 & 20 oz get 2-3 feedings per day respectively. I feel like it is a bit heavy for my plants. The only problems I have are from chlorinated water, and that just burns some tips. Throughout their lives I have periodically given light feedings and notice no difference.

I sure wouldn't mind spending even less on nutrients than I already do. But I am almost too paranoid to change anything about my grow with things going as smoothly as they are.
 
Ganjagrowergu said:
I feed maxibloom 1 tsp per gallon, my 40 & 20 oz get 2-3 feedings per day respectively. I feel like it is a bit heavy for my plants.
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That dosage provides a total of ~470ppm. It could be a bit heavy for hempy, but it depends where you are in the grow. However, the NPK ratio (1-1.3-2.3) is not typical or necessarily ideal for veg, and there aren’t any micronutrients at all (no B, Mn, Zn, Mo, Cu, or Co)! Hard to believe that your plants aren’t showing any issues. But hey, it just goes to show how variable and adaptable the cannabis plant is.
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FelipeBlu said:
That dosage provides a total of ~470ppm. It could be a bit heavy for hempy, but it depends where you are in the grow. However, the NPK ratio (1-1.3-2.3) is not typical or necessarily ideal for veg, and there aren’t any micronutrients at all (no B, Mn, Zn, Mo, Cu, or Co)! Hard to believe that your plants aren’t showing any issues. But hey, it just goes to show how variable and adaptable the cannabis plant is.
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My packaging says 5-15-14, and according to the ingredients listed maxibloom should have all of those micro nutrients. From what I gather, many folks feed maxibloom as a stand alone sprout to harvest. It's working for me anyway.
 
I wonder if the PPM is affected by using only 1 tsp per gallon? Is that what the feeding schedule calls for in veg and flowering?
 
I don't know ppm's. I fed ¼tsp at third set of leaves, couple days later went to ½, couple days later I fed 1 tsp and they have been growing since. I've had only one plant get culled just for being weak early on. Everyone is vibrant.
 
Ganjagrowergu said:
I don't know ppm's. I fed ¼tsp at third set of leaves, couple days later went to ½, couple days later I fed 1 tsp and they have been growing since. I've had only one plant get culled just for being weak early on. Everyone is vibrant.
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If it makes a difference I do 12/12 from seed. I don't really know.
 
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