Heavens Shores - Bill's 2022 Grow: Come Meet Howie! Show Us Your Grow Too - Bring A Pic

[Roy Growin]

Omg @Roy Growin I'm so sorry I missed this post.
I don't know how this happened I feel terrible.
I wasn't ignoring you, infact I saw a post you did this morning and said hi because I've never talked to you before.
As RD. mentioned they are highly beneficial, smart cookie he is.
In combination with the microbes and fungi you will have a brilliant combination looking after your roots.
Hope your having a great weekend and I look forward to seeing you here when you have the time.
Do you have a journal on the go I can follow?
Thanks Roy, talk soon.

Stay safe
Bill

Lol - thanks for the reply Bill, I knew you'd get round to it
Have been using a little enzyme, not going overboard til I get a feel for how this goes
I checked the roots a few days ago and they are a wonderful white furry web so I upped her to a 10L pot
Grow wise, my Big Bud Green Crack is finishing so it's the Chunky Skunk photo I'm growing for a clone sog just for fun (and a feking huge harvest, but that's incidental, right ) - she is about 4" tall and 9" wide lol

See your greenhouse is sorted - how's the tooth?
Keep well chilled Amigo

 

[DaradeGrows]

Thank you so much!

Bill is still waiting for his SNS so I should start looking ASAP. Pistils showing at 9 weeks so I may be into early flower .

OMG Bill! This is YOUR grow! WTF am I doing inquiring about mine?

Thank you again, Darade.

My bad, Bill!

Try on the Zon, they're usually extremely fast at shipping that stuff! They usually get it from Sierra themselves.

 

[Bill284]

Lol - thanks for the reply Bill, I knew you'd get round to it
Have been using a little enzyme, not going overboard til I get a feel for how this goes
I checked the roots a few days ago and they are a wonderful white furry web so I upped her to a 10L pot
Grow wise, my Big Bud Green Crack is finishing so it's the Chunky Skunk photo I'm growing for a clone sog just for fun (and a feking huge harvest, but that's incidental, right ) - she is about 4" tall and 9" wide lol

See your greenhouse is sorted - how's the tooth?
Keep well chilled Amigo

Greenhouse is close, rain wind and my mobility have hampered progress.
Days I'm walking around decently it's too windy or it rains.
Or it's sunny and I can't walk.
Bit they are dry and semi warm.
Freezing here today.
I had such great results with my bokashi ,frass, myc combo I never looked much into beneficial enzymes.
Once I put it in air pots I got a enough of an increase in plant health and final harvest therevwas no need.
Plus I was running 50 girls at a time , all clones my hands were full.
When you re pot do you take that opportunity to sprinkle the roots.
Especially myc, contact directly in the root zone is paramount for proper product use.
Frass and bokashi just have to be in the area but contact is beneficial.
I'll swing by and catch your action.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Bill284]

Try on the Zon, they're usually extremely fast at shipping that stuff! They usually get it from Sierra themselves.

@Sierra Natural Science owe me bottles of the stuff.
I'm trying to get a hold of them but no luck yet.
Hoping they just contact me and and we clear up what I'm sure is some sort of clerical error.
Thanks Darade hope your having a great weekend my friend.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[DaradeGrows]

I sincerely hope so! A Lil disheartened to hear that, but I hope it all gets cleared up and we all can forget, and forgive this matter.

I'm enjoying my weekend; I bought a bunch of new things to help garden, I'll be posting it all on the journal!
I really hope your weekend is also grand as well, friend!

Safe Regards,
Darade!

 

[Bill284]

"Huston we have a problem "

I think I have Broad Mites !!​

Classic Mite Damage

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Every girl is infected overnight
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EVERYTHING

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IS GOING

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IN THE

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GARBAGE

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I Noticed a couple spots I thought were abnormal.
After spraying with regular bug Spray this is the result.
It did kill anything.
But does wash them down to the edges where the bug Spray evaporates.
Congregating them at those points and feken spreading them everywhere.
By spraying the couple infected ones I spread them on everyone.
Thus wiping out my entire grow.
If anyone has a different opinion please chime in.
24 hr and they are going in the garbage.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Vegan4life]

"Huston we have a problem "

I think I have Broad Mites !!​

EVERYTHING ​

IS GOING

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IN THE

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GARBAGE

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I Noticed a couple spots I thought were abnormal.
After spraying with regular bug Spray this is the result.
it doesn't kill anything.
But does wash them down to the edges where the bug Spray evaporates.
Congregating them at those points and feken spreading them everywhere.
By spraying the couple infected ones I spread them on everyone.
Thus wiping out my entire grow.
If anyone has a different opinion please chime in.
24chr and they are going in the garbage.

Stay safe
Bill

Holy F*CK !!! What a bummer!!!

 

[DaradeGrows]

I'm so sorry, Bill! Looks like Broad Mites are no friggin joke!

 

[Bill284]

@Sierra Natural Science what is your opinion?
Do you have a suggestion?

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Vegan4life]

Hopefully @Sierra Natural Science will chime in soon... Looks like their sns-217c will kill off the Borg including Broad mites. So sorry that you have to deal with this...

 

[ReservoirDog]

My helper is taking a break

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I know I keep saying almost done
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Stay safe
 Bill

This is a beautiful, striking, example of traditional Canadian architecture. Observe the subtle regional elements such as the red tuck tape, more commonly found in upper Canada, whereas the westward, Prairie communities favoured duct tape. West of the Rockies polyethylene fell from favour due to climactic variables and we see tyvek and tar paper become the most prominent and recognizable elements. Such culturally rich, historically important structures are a key to understanding the Canadian perspective, n'est pas? Schoolchildren should be making field trips, and you should apply for a federal grant to cover maint. costs, and your time, of course. It's a shoe-in. Way to go, eh!

 

[DeeBoy]

Oh no! I was just about to welcome you back to the action…..

 

[ReservoirDog]

Srry Bill, hadn't got to the mites when I posted my Arch. Digest review.

F*&^%^%K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But Just WAIT, WAIT.... WAIT.... give us a few hours here to work the problem... don't light the pyre just yet, pleaaaaaase. Walk away, don't think about it for a couple hours to drain the bad chems in your brain from the shock. I too am on quite a streak of death at the moment, never worked so hard to destroy so much.

 

[Rexer]

Oh no Bill, damn, don't ditch em yet.
I think there's a few options. But it's a Hell of a Battle ahead of you.

First, id get some benifical predatory mites. Using them will be the last step, but you'll want them as a long term approach. Don't start with them, they won't be able to kill everything off at once. And any treatment you do against the broad mites may kill the predatory mites.

You can kill them with heat.
Broad mites don’t like the heat above 90°F (32°C).
Diatomaceous earth will help.

Neem oil I believe works as well. They're in veg so you have options and time
I think @Tokin Roll has dealt with them if I remember correctly...

But being in a greenhouse- sulfer burner . After doing some reading, I'd go this route and you won't even need the predatory mites. It'll be a handy peice of equipment to have and can be used for a lot of things.

 

[ReservoirDog]

You're more experienced than I Bill, nonetheless, I'm so ^$@# gutted I have to do something, anything, so I'm gonna list in order what I'd do if I had no outside influence to steer me.

1.) Confirm, then double confirm it is in fact broad mites. Cannot overlook this one. Then, if affirmative

1.5) You could do the following before confirming ID, probably should: Separate plants into three groups, 1) no obvious mite activity 2) Mite activity with minimal damage, like only swirled new leaves or just a couple tips 3) Heavey damage plants.

2.) Distance groups as far from each other as possible, even if just a meter or two is all you've got. Favour no-mite damage group with most protection/distance.

3.) Boil water in tallest pot you have. Allow cool 5 mins. Then holding upside down as if to transplant, quickly dip each plant into the hot water. In and out. Tough on plants? Yeah, but desperate times.... you might choose not to do this with group #1, esp. seedlings in it, but I'd do all myself.

4) remove all affected leaves, all.

5.) Buy a systemic, chemical insecticide. "Avid", Forbid" "AgroMagen". Use as directed for BMs. Plants will be vegging a while, so plant has time to flush those out by the time you harvest. Sucks I know, but BMs are strategic-level opponents, not tactical ones. I mean Neam, sure, but these bastards are inside the plant. I would use Neam possibly as weekly, post-war, application.

6.) sketch out a weekly broadmite engagement/prevention tactical plan. Such as all these together:

Yeah, order those anti-mite er... mites. Even if an effective kill effort seems to clear the issue, broadmites still demand a weekly treatment until short time after flip/flowering. - Dust diatomacious earth on remaining dry leaves, pots, shelves in growspace, anywhere, everywhere. - Neam until flip, but it builds up and they can become resistant so maybe Neam every 10 days, not weekly.

If you know people with clones to give/sell, start calling.... I know one 'commercial' clone-raising consultancy that just 'happens' to come with free clones, primo too. Really hurting for ya, but there are ways to still make sure you can get your grow on.

 

[ReservoirDog]

It just seems an awfully fast innoculation-destruction period. 24hrs? If you pick an esp. damaged leafe, hold it towards light and look into backlit leaf with some magnification you could see them. What is the possibility of a burn here, any?

 

[Danishoes21]

Sorry to hear Bill.


Sending out some good vibes

 

[Vegan4life]

Oh no Bill, damn, don't ditch em yet.
I think there's a few options. But it's a Hell of a Battle ahead of you.

First, id get some benifical predatory mites. Using them will be the last step, but you'll want them as a long term approach. Don't start with them, they won't be able to kill everything off at once. And any treatment you do against the broad mites may kill the predatory mites.

You can kill them with heat.
Broad mites don’t like the heat above 90°F (32°C).
Diatomaceous earth will help.

Neem oil I believe works as well. They're in veg so you have options and time
I think @Tokin Roll has dealt with them if I remember correctly...

But being in a greenhouse- sulfer burner . After doing some reading, I'd go this route and you won't even need the predatory mites. It'll be a handy peice of equipment to have and can be used for a lot of things.

GWE has this posted for Broad mites

"Some growers will try to get rid of them by on small plants or clones by dunking the plants in hot water (105°F / 40°C) for 10-20 minutes. I’ve also heard of growers try to reduce their number by overheating the grow space to 115°F (46°C) for an hour. Be careful as this can be dangerous if you don’t take safety precautions, and any heat method strong enough to kill the mites will likely hurt your plants."

 

[TwelveCoffee]

I'm sorry to hear that Bill if you need some seeds I can send you some that I have

 

[Bill284]

Oh no Bill, damn, don't ditch em yet.
I think there's a few options. But it's a Hell of a Battle ahead of you.

First, id get some benifical predatory mites. Using them will be the last step, but you'll want them as a long term approach. Don't start with them, they won't be able to kill everything off at once. And any treatment you do against the broad mites may kill the predatory mites.

You can kill them with heat.
Broad mites don’t like the heat above 90°F (32°C).
Diatomaceous earth will help.

Neem oil I believe works as well. They're in veg so you have options and time
I think @Tokin Roll has dealt with them if I remember correctly...

But being in a greenhouse- sulfer burner . After doing some reading, I'd go this route and you won't even need the predatory mites. It'll be a handy peice of equipment to have and can be used for a lot of things.

Good morning Rex.
I've battled this particular demon before.
In order to rid your garden of this, byou remove effected leaves and spray 5he rest.
If a plant has 6 leaves and you remove the effected 4 leaves and spray the other 2 what do you have left.
A sick plant with 2 leaves left.
I can ordered predatory mites and lady bugs or what ever else is available, but
In 24 hr they have damaged half the leaves.
In 3 or 4 days when they arrive there will be nothing left to save.
Tried neem oil, Dr Doom, Diatomaceous earth, sulfer and every other product available.
Literally everything I could find.
Ravenous beasts, lay the eggs inside the plant.
There is no way to kill the eggs.
The mites are microscopic, impossible to see.
And even harder to kill.
Ive tried spraying every other day for 3 weeks, spent hundreds of dollars on every thing imaginable.
In the end I ended up dumping 40 plants and starting over again.
Lost hundreds of dollars in sprays and 3 weeks worth of growing time.
Seeing as there is virtually no leaves left to save and no time left to waste I'll start over.
The seeds I had put away for you, I may borrow half of them.
It's mid June not optimal but doable.
There is no time left to battle bugs, summer is disappearing fast.
I'll start over.
Or just teken pack it in and take up knitting.
This is the 4th crop in a row I've completely lost.
First was the 50 plants I gave away when we decided to move.Gone.
Then the Fire wiped out all the girls I had left. 2nd Gone.
Then the Chronic Thunder team from my winter grow, 31c in window ledge. 3rd Gone.
Then my summer grow, mites. 4 th Gone?
4 in a row.
Thanks Rex.

Stay safe
Bill