Heavenly Hybrid’s Hideout: Jump In Anytime

[InTheShed]

Great recovery on the Candidas double H! You sorted it out beautifully in the end, and now it's time to get those clones cut.

At first she had trouble getting him to eat it, but she found a way and now he eats it without problem.

Everything's good in chicken!

now she says he just pops right up, no problems and no crying from being sore!

Noice!

Even more reason I need my little Candida farm to get right!

For the clones! And of course, the harvest.

"Honey, get the bamboo!"

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

Thanks Amy. I've recently gotten into vaping dry herbs and have been keeping the vaporised flower to make edibles with. I think I will give the CBD strain a go.

Thank you for the quick answers @Amy Gardner!!
All you guys with your fancy vapes have got me considering getting a new one of some sort for the house. Vape poo is the poo for edibles!

now it's time to get those clones cut

Already done sir.

Honey, get the bamboo!

No joke!! I’m super annoyed I need them, but I should be grateful I already have a ton in supply. It’s gonna be messy...

 

[Carcass]

Good evening, HH!...
It's great to see your plants smiling at you again!

speaking of vapes...
I just got myself a little DaVinci Miqro dry herb vape-it's pretty cool- I'd never vaped flower before- I dig the high- it's a little different high than smoking-not better or worse, just different...

 

[Dusted]

Good evening, HH!...
It's great to see your plants smiling at you again!

speaking of vapes...
I just got myself a little DaVinci Miqro dry herb vape-it's pretty cool- I'd never vaped flower before- I dig the high- it's a little different high than smoking-not better or worse, just different...

And way healthier

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Good evening, HH!...
It's great to see your plants smiling at you again!

speaking of vapes...
I just got myself a little DaVinci Miqro dry herb vape-it's pretty cool- I'd never vaped flower before- I dig the high- it's a little different high than smoking-not better or worse, just different...

That Davinci sounds nice, Carcass (I had to look it up)!

I just got my first vape a short while ago and I'm already looking for a second one. The one I have is not really the best for carrying around, but yours looks quite portable.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

I just got myself a little DaVinci Miqro dry herb vape-it's pretty cool-

You are one of the guys I was mentioning! Lol, it looks pretty friggin sweet.

And way healthier

Even more reason to get one!

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I have an old one we got about 10 years ago. I didn’t like it because you had to wait a while for it to heat up (~5 mins), that’s just too dang long for this stoner. Sounds like the new ones are much more efficient, so I’m thinking it’s time..

 

[Carcass]

I got the idea from @candycane - her husband got her the IQ model for Christmas and that got me to doing a little research on them and I decided on the next size down- it's a little smaller, but I'm the only one using it so I don't need one with a large capacity..and DaVinci is based in Nevada, so it got here in just 3 ydays. Pretty darn affordable too..

yours looks quite portable.

It is nice n' small..I carry it in my t-shirt pocket- hell, I could get stoned in the grocery store if I wanted to...I don't want to, but I could..

 

[ProfessorFlora]

All you guys with your fancy vapes have got me considering getting a new one of some sort for the house. Vape poo is the poo for edibles!

I don't think mine is too fancy but it certainly does the job.

it's a little different high than smoking-not better or worse, just different...

I found it to be much more intense but perhaps not as hard hitting initially. By the end of a 10 or 20 minute session I'm far more blazed than if I had smoked a good sized joint. Not to mention I've used far less herb as well.

I just got my first vape a short while ago and I'm already looking for a second one.

Hooked!

I have an old one we got about 10 years ago. I didn’t like it because you had to wait a while for it to heat up (~5 mins), that’s just too dang long for this stoner

That is a very long time indeed. Mines not a top of the range model but will still heat up in around 30 seconds. Always catches me off guard lol.

It is nice n' small..I carry it in my t-shirt pocket- hell, I could get stoned in the grocery store if I wanted to...I don't want to, but I could..

I thought about that as well. They are much more discreet than carrying around a great big biffter.
The other day I was using it in my (outdoor) garden and the Amazon delivery driver walking up the nextdoor neighbors driveway turned and said "that smells fucking amazing" lol. Not as discreet as I thought it was going to be. The smell doesn't linger though or stick to anything so another win for vaping.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

Hi grow buddies! I snapped a couple photos when I watered today. Pretty much the same story, pale up top, deficiencies spotting the leaves. I’ve been top dressing, adding molasses, recharge and some cal mag. Not all of those things at once necessarily, but in some combination with each watering.

And proof of clones!

I took 8 and I need 1, so hopefully it works out....

That’s all I’ve got today. Soooo boring! I’m feeling the need to drop some seeds. If I start feeling impulsive enough, you may just see some seed dunkin soon.

Hope all is well with you all, stay safe, sweet friends!

 

[InTheShed]

proof of clones!

 

[Amy Gardner]

It may be an ongoing “negotiation” if it’s just the fact that the soil isn’t constructed or humming the way it needs to be. Don’t give up on it. Your next run with the same stuff will be better as a result. If it were me, I’d wait until it had a very light feed or a plain water drink, let it dry out and then hit it with a moderate dose of fertiliser + microbial tea. That’s not exactly a recommendation tho. Dunno enough about the mix you’re working with.
It is true that you realised after that it should have been mixed differently (I remember something related to that)?

Is it possible that if the mix didn’t “cook right” that the soil PH is actually out? maybe it is possible. Slurry test?

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

If it were me, I’d wait until it had a very light feed or a plain water drink, let it dry out and then hit it with a moderate dose of fertiliser + microbial tea.

I can make a tea using the concentrate, I’ve done that a few times so far. Would that hit the mark for the fertilizer part?

And then there’s the Recharge I have been using, it says it’s a “microbial supercharge”. Here’s a little product quote -

• Loaded with Mycorrhizae, trichoderma, and beneficial bacteria with Kelp, Humic, Fulvic & Molasses
• Replaces the need for compost teas

I applied a healthy dose of that today. Should I keep at those things or do you think there is something more I should add/buy?

It is true that you realised after that it should have been mixed differently (I remember something related to that)?

I’m not entirely sure, but I believe for a transplant, I should have mixed the concentrate and promix, watered it, then let it sit for a week, then used that for the bottom 1/3 of my pot. Ideally I should’ve had the colony cooking throughout the plant’s life. We’ll see what this stuff can do on the next round for sure.

I feel like I’m just playing the waiting game now. A very slow waiting game. I’m wondering if I may need to take one of the candidas out because they’re getting so much bigger than I had ever planned. Le sigh..

 

[Amy Gardner]

Would that hit the mark for the fertilizer part?

Should I keep at those things or do you think there is something more I should add/buy?

I sorry I can’t really say either way. They sound a bit like the same thing (both would supply some fertiliser and some microbial boost by the sounds. So I really can’t say.
I can say from what the plants are doing that it doesn’t, to me, look like you have a functional soil community. Not knowing any details about the system or how they suggest using it I can’t say much more about how to get that thriving. Usually with organic soil, if that’s the problem it very often (nearly always?) because of the soil prep. @Van Stank said Exactly This about his soil recently, after a run of soil that he worked out hadn’t cooked properly threw him some problems. All about the way the soil is brought together. If I have some space and brain, I shall investigate your product a little further.

I’d still do a slurry test if I was in this kind of circumstance myself tho. If the soil is out the soil is out and only addressing that directly will fix it. If the soil wasn’t prepped quite right, it’s worth checking.

 

[InTheShed]

Since you're obviously running out of room in there, I want to go out on a limb here and say that feeding them MC now while you wait for the new stuff to sort itself out might be the best way to go. MC won't in any way diminish the workability of the new stuff once it gets going, but it will get the plants healthy in the meantime.

 

[Carcass]

^^ l'll go out on that limb too...
They need a little something to get them past this rough spot ....then slowly wean them off as they and the soil get healthier.

 

[Amy Gardner]

feeding them MC now while you wait for the new stuff to sort itself out might be the best way to go.

I nearly said something similar myself earlier but I don’t know anything about MC really, so held back.

I have looked up your stuff tho so here’s what I think...

mixed it in with my promix for the bottom 1/3 and then just regular promix to fill it up. I still need to read up to be sure, but then you can top dress or tea as needed

okay, in my view you’re blending their 3 different methods. I’ll try to explain what I mean (and maybe I’ve missed some of what you did so...) Their instructions that read;

Super Soil Technique:
1. For containers 5 gallons or greater use 3.2 ounces of concentrate per gallon of container
2. Fill a container 1/3 full with the concentrate and potting soil and mix thoroughly.
3. Fill the remaining 2/3 of the container with base potting soil only
4. Plant and water from seed to harvest

Living Soil Technique:
1. Thoroughly mix 1 lb of Nature's Living Soil concentrate for every 5 gallons of organic potting soil to make a ready to use Living Soil
2. Make a small hole, about the size of a 16oz cup, and fill with organic potting soil.
3. Plant and water from seed to harvest

Top Feeding:
1. Sprinkle a thin layer of Nature's Living Soil concentrate on the top of the soil and water.

Both of those ways of doing it refer to working with some kind of base organic potting soil and by that they mean like a ‘fox farm’ or ‘happy frog’ or something like that. Not an inert base with no organic content built in. From the top of the page.

Our concentrates for super soil/living soil are to be mixed with organic potting media such as Roots Organics, Fox Farm (Ocean Forest & Happy Frog are very popular with our customers) or Dr. Earth which is available at Home Depot and other box stores.

Also, you seem to have mixed and built it like the first version (supersoil) but are thinking to use it like the second. (Which won’t matter anyway if there’s meant to be an organic potting soil there from the start and there isn’t one). So you’ve built it perfectly for the supersoil approach but using the wrong substrate - should have been an organic potting soil.

what you really need to do if working with the promix is what’s at the bottom of that page, as below (your promix is already the peat/coir and the perlite)

Making your own potting soil:
Ingredients:
6 gallons sphagnum peat moss or coir fiber (preferred)
4.5 gallons perlite
6 gallons compost or earthworm castings (preferred)
1 pound Nature’s Living Soil Concentrate
Mix the ingredients thoroughly

Do you have worm castings mixed in? I didn’t see.

You’d maybe want to add some perlite. I think promix is only 27% perlite and that mix seems higher.

They don’t mention letting it cook, not there anyway but maybe they do elsewhere. Most living soil folks would say at least a week and more is better. But I don’t know anything about their concentrate so it may well not need it at all.

Considering the situation you’re in, i would say use the highest recommended dose for top dressing used soil (they mention that somewhere too). And water that in with a tea - or however they instruct.

Or contact them and explain your situation and seek their advice about getting these ones through.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

Hey again gb’s, I’m not going to quote respond because it’s just gonna be messy and honestly, I’m pretty stoned. But as Shed and carcass mentioned, I need to do something to limp these girls into healthy. I was hoping I could wait it out, but that threshold has been met. I’d like to not have to toss one of these girls out. So I gave them all just a top off watering with 2g/gal of MC. Now we wait...

@Amy Gardner thank you so much for looking into this for me, I feel bad because I know you’re already taxed out, so thank you. I don’t have worm castings on hand, but I can always try to order some. The most product information I was able to find was on Amazon’s q and a section for the concentrate. One question was specifically about using promix hp, and the rep said it works perfectly with it, so that led me to the assumption it would work out trying it this way. I do have some fox farms happy frog and black gold organic soil I could use for the next time I brave using this concentrate.

Thanks for sticking with me through this muck, grow buddies. I miss having nice, pretty, green plants... where has all the verdant gone?

 

[InTheShed]

I don't think you could go wrong with 4g/gallon...no reason to go halfsies on it!

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

I don't think you could go wrong with 4g/gallon...no reason to go halfsies on it!

I’m a’skeered.

 

[InTheShed]

I'd be more a'skeerd at 2g/gallon! The plants will take up the MC rather than the nutes you put in the promix because it's more readily accessible.