Just to clarify, the leaf issues will go away with proper res height. I don't believe the cal-mag helped OR hurt the plant, it just isn't needed!
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Chuckeye
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I don't believe you have to. I forget the exact wording they use but their nutrients are ph buffered.
Yes, especially if you are using well water !
Cheers
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PINEAPPLE EXPRESS (PENNY) UPDATE
October 17 to November 6, 2024
October 17 to November 6, 2024
Today's update is on Penny, my second Pineapple Express. She has the same leaf issues that Peggy has. Grow Weed Easy's problem chart shows me that it could be a potassium deficiency. What do you think?
Here are my leaves:
And, here's what GWE has for a potassium deficiency:
GWE says that a potassium deficiency also looks like light burn or ph issues. Currently, the lights are about 18 inches from the tops of the plants and Photone says the ppfd is around 650 for them, which meets the qualifications, I think.
My target ph is 5.8 because that's what bluter does but sometimes, it's either 5.7 or 5.9, which I count as close enough.
Now, let's update you on Penny. Here is her current info and pictures:
Penny - Day 33:
Penny - Day 38:
Penny - Day 47:
Penny - Day 50:
That's everything from me today. Looking forward to people's thoughts on the whole Cal-Mag issue as well as what's causing the brown spots on my leaves,
Chuckeye
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@HashGirl
In all my time growing I have never used Cal/Mag. I've hauled city water, store bought water and for years now just my well water !
AND for the last couple (?) of years I have Not used ph down !
Advanced Nutrients ph perfect, GH Maxi series and Mega Crop one part all have Cal/Mag incorporated in their ingredients and are all buffered or chelated for ph.
This is a Wedding Cheesecake auto on day 83, grown in a 4 gallon hempy bucket with perlite and fed GH Maxi series.
Well water ppm of ~500, ph ~7.5, dry yield +13oz.
And again, I did Not use Cal/Mag Or ph down.....
Front bottom, white pail painted black, over 5' tall
Close up of buds showing condition of leaves...
Cheers
In all my time growing I have never used Cal/Mag. I've hauled city water, store bought water and for years now just my well water !
AND for the last couple (?) of years I have Not used ph down !
Advanced Nutrients ph perfect, GH Maxi series and Mega Crop one part all have Cal/Mag incorporated in their ingredients and are all buffered or chelated for ph.
This is a Wedding Cheesecake auto on day 83, grown in a 4 gallon hempy bucket with perlite and fed GH Maxi series.
Well water ppm of ~500, ph ~7.5, dry yield +13oz.
And again, I did Not use Cal/Mag Or ph down.....
Front bottom, white pail painted black, over 5' tall
Close up of buds showing condition of leaves...
Cheers
Chuckeye
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One other thing....
What is your air movement situation in your tent ?
I have two 7" fans on the floor opposite each other creating a cyclone effect towards the top. Then I have another 7" exhaust fan set to come on at 80 F.
Good air movement = good transpiration = proper intake of nutrients. Well, that's the short version
Cheers
What is your air movement situation in your tent ?
I have two 7" fans on the floor opposite each other creating a cyclone effect towards the top. Then I have another 7" exhaust fan set to come on at 80 F.
Good air movement = good transpiration = proper intake of nutrients. Well, that's the short version
Cheers
Hi HG, I think your leaf issue is still an overwatering issue. Take a look at the images in this article.
Overwatering
Overwatering
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@HashGirl
In all my time growing I have never used Cal/Mag. I've hauled city water, store bought water and for years now just my well water !
AND for the last couple (?) of years I have Not used ph down !
Advanced Nutrients ph perfect, GH Maxi series and Mega Crop one part all have Cal/Mag incorporated in their ingredients and are all buffered or chelated for ph.
This is a Wedding Cheesecake auto on day 83, grown in a 4 gallon hempy bucket with perlite and fed GH Maxi series.
Well water ppm of ~500, ph ~7.5, dry yield +13oz.
And again, I did Not use Cal/Mag Or ph down.....
Front bottom, white pail painted black, over 5' tall
Close up of buds showing condition of leaves...
Cheers
I made up a jug of nutes this morning and didn't add Cal-Mag this time so we'll see whether that helps the plants or not. I also moved the lights up a bit as the PPFD was in the 200s. Now it's in the 500s.
I have an intake fan as well as a tower fan in each tent and a clip-on fan is also in each tent. I don't usually have air issues until flower though. My girls are in 4x4 tents and I only have 2 girls in each tent so airflow shouldn't be a huge issue.One other thing....
What is your air movement situation in your tent ?
I have two 7" fans on the floor opposite each other creating a cyclone effect towards the top. Then I have another 7" exhaust fan set to come on at 80 F.
Good air movement = good transpiration = proper intake of nutrients. Well, that's the short version
Cheers
It does look like my plants but I thought you couldn't overwater hempy grows???
I'm hoping raising the lights will solve some of the issues.
Thanks for everyone's help.
In my winter grow last year I had a Do si dos #33 that refused to stop drooping. I started to water her less frequently and she perked up slightly.
She only really recovered in flower.
How coarse is the perlite?
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It was an 8 litre pot, and at first I was going with the 3-2-1 method @bluter told me about, but I started giving her an extra day or two to dry out a bit.
I think part of the problem was the perlite. In the US it seems to be widely available in different grades based on size, ranging from driveway gravel down to sand.
What I've seen for sale up here seems to be completely mixed up. No attempt to separate it into grades at all. The promix perlite I bought was like that, with most of it being about the size of kitty litter, and a lot of the finer stuff settled down to the bottom half of the pot.
It wicks better than the coarser stuff, but I think it also reduces aeration, making over watering a possibility.
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What's bluter's 3-2-1 method?
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SUPER SILVER HAZE (SASHA)
October 22 to November 9, 2024
October 22 to November 9, 2024
Today's update is on Sasha. Today would have been her regular day but I didn't to see if watering less often helps with the looks of her as she has the same leaf issues as the Pineapple Expresses. Here is her info and pics:
Sasha - Day 36:
Sasha - Day 39:
Sasha - Day 42:
Sasha - Day 45:
Sasha - Day 48:
Thanks for following along. Let me know if anyone has any questions or concerns.
Hello @HashGirl how's you doing?
I may be marching to a different tune, but that looks over watered to me?
I may be marching to a different tune, but that looks over watered to me?
Watering every 3rd day from when the roots hit the res to mid/late veg, every other day until early to mid flower, and then every day from then on.
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Hello Roy. I am well. I can't see still and the surgeon says it's not bad enough for surgery yet. I think it's worse for me because I also have a floater in the same eye.
How are you? Did you have a nice summer? I'm thinking about travelling to Britain in 2026. Any chance we could hook up somewhere? And, which countries constitute Britain? Does it include Wales and/or Ireland and/or Scotland?
Yeah, that's what Carmen thought, too so I didn't water Sasha and Bianca today, which was when I normally would have. Should I give them a few days?
Chuckeye
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Hi @HashGirl
Which GH product are you feeding ? And what amount are you using per batch size ?
I'm using one gallon plastic milk containers to mix, just started with 4g/gallon of MC
BTW > when I did my hempy grow I fed the same amount of GH Maxi as the MC for the other girls in ProMix HP.
Hempy Grow journal in my signature...
Just a thought, the Miracle Grow Perlite sold here has a small amount of nutrients in it !
Could be interfering with your GH ?
How about you do a flush with 2 or even 3 times the volume of the pot with water.
With the last unit add back your GH nutrients.. Get that Miracle Grow stuff out of there
If you feel it is a possibility that the plant is indeed overwatered, after the third unit, tilt your container over to drain about half of the reservoir.
Or as much as you comfortably can and the next day run another gallon (?) through, again drain as much as you want !
Set your fan(s) so the plants leaves are slightly rustling Such a nice word 
More air flow, more transpiration and more food....
IIRC my 30 day old hempy girl was getting a 1/2 gallon of feed in a total container of 4 gallons of perlite.
Lastly, what is your lights watt draw from the wall, power setting and distance to plant top ?
30,000 lux/450 par should be good....
Cheers, eh ?
Which GH product are you feeding ? And what amount are you using per batch size ?
I'm using one gallon plastic milk containers to mix, just started with 4g/gallon of MC
BTW > when I did my hempy grow I fed the same amount of GH Maxi as the MC for the other girls in ProMix HP.
Hempy Grow journal in my signature...
Just a thought, the Miracle Grow Perlite sold here has a small amount of nutrients in it !
Could be interfering with your GH ?
How about you do a flush with 2 or even 3 times the volume of the pot with water.
With the last unit add back your GH nutrients.. Get that Miracle Grow stuff out of there
If you feel it is a possibility that the plant is indeed overwatered, after the third unit, tilt your container over to drain about half of the reservoir.
Or as much as you comfortably can and the next day run another gallon (?) through, again drain as much as you want !
Set your fan(s) so the plants leaves are slightly rustling
Such a nice word More air flow, more transpiration and more food....
IIRC my 30 day old hempy girl was getting a 1/2 gallon of feed in a total container of 4 gallons of perlite.
Lastly, what is your lights watt draw from the wall, power setting and distance to plant top ?
30,000 lux/450 par should be good....
Cheers, eh ?
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When you water your plants, the water contains dissolved Oxygen. But as the water sits, some of the O2 is taken by the plant and rest dissipates in a day or 2. Once the dissolved O2 dissipates from the water, the whole Overwatering thing starts.
If your res holds more than the plant will utilize in 2ish days, if will start to effect the roots and nutrient uptake. The easiest solution is to lower your res. (hole)
If you wait longer between feedings, you are actually letting the roots sit without oxygen longer. It would be Better to flush fully oxygenated water thru Everday to keep the roots supplied.
The high Res hole on your starter cups was your ONLY problem. Once you transplant into the larger containers your Overwatered problem starts to recover, which you can see in the new growth. By the time they flower, and start eating thru the res quickly, your Budz are Beautiful!
Your previous Harvests show you are doing everything Correctly. With the correct res height in your cup, you will avoid overwatering, and return to the Fast Hydro growth Hempy provides!
If your res holds more than the plant will utilize in 2ish days, if will start to effect the roots and nutrient uptake. The easiest solution is to lower your res. (hole)
If you wait longer between feedings, you are actually letting the roots sit without oxygen longer. It would be Better to flush fully oxygenated water thru Everday to keep the roots supplied.
The high Res hole on your starter cups was your ONLY problem. Once you transplant into the larger containers your Overwatered problem starts to recover, which you can see in the new growth. By the time they flower, and start eating thru the res quickly, your Budz are Beautiful!
Your previous Harvests show you are doing everything Correctly. With the correct res height in your cup, you will avoid overwatering, and return to the Fast Hydro growth Hempy provides!
I'm sure @InTheShed could explain it better (cause he's not Stoned)! 
He probably has some articles and graphs to back it up too!
He probably has some articles and graphs to back it up too!
Your description sounds good to me. I'm definitely not a hydro grower so I'm just listening in in this thread.I'm sure @InTheShed could explain it better (cause he's not Stoned)!
He probably has some articles and graphs to back it up too!
