GreenThumb J's White Widow Clone Run RTF/DWC

My 2 cents on the nutrient discussion, if I may....

What everyone said here is mostly correct, in my opinion.

I started with botanicare, then went to GH, then to dutch master, then to advanced. Every nutrient line I tried, seem to yield better than the previous one. Why? Because I kept getting to be a better grower. If you picked one of the 4 brands and told me I had to grow with it forever, I wouldn't really care. I would do fine with any of them, and so would you.

If you know me, you know I grow perpetually. Each plant is a harvest. I run 3-4 plants in flower all the time so I harvest every 2-3 weeks. Doing it this way, catapults your experience ahead of the other guy who flowers an entire room out every two months. With a perpetual grow, you literally get 4 times the experience in the same amount of time. When you grow the same genetics over and over, you get to know it, and you get to "fine tune" it. Only then you can someone tell if one line really out-performs another. Honestly, I can't tell you that any of the 4 lines I've run, have any exceptional advantage over the other.

The way I see it, it's 75% green thumb (no pun intended), and 25% everything else (nutrients, light, temp, technique, etc). You can give someone an exact recipe, but only experience will make them a true chef.

In the heavyweight journal, you're sounding a little skeptical about the Rock Nutrients.

And i have totally agree with you Cap. Just like you mentioned in one of your blogs about when you were young, wanting the nice Gibson guitar, and your dad told you its 90% musician 10% instrument (or similar %'s).

Once you begin to fine tune your growing environment, you will be able to achieve better results each grow, no matter what nutrient line you use.

If you notice tho, you mentioned big bottle brands Botanicare, GH, AN, DM... if you read back on my comment about label laws and label censorship, its these exact companies that can pay to be able to have these addition products the AAPFCO allows to be advertised and used in the fertilizers displayed on the bottle for everyone to see, whereas, the smaller companies might not be able to afford to use those same products the big brands use

Hydro...

I do not have the answer to if those products are organic or not.. But i still suggest you try the hardwater formula from GH
 
Also everyone.... i HAD a video to post, actually 3 cause battery died and then camera stopped recording after a certain time, so i just scrapped it. I will wait until later today to take the video and post it tonight
 
Good shatterday to you weed brother!

for rockwool and seeds, i simply do the exact same as how i germinate the seeds.

half gal bottled water
10ml Aquashield
5ml Gen Hydro Florablend
1/2 tsp Gen Hydro Subculture-M

airstone in a small sauce pot or whatever you want for at least 12-36 hours to activate the mycorrhizal fungi in the subculture-M, then i will soak a paper towel with this and germinate my seeds on top of my playstation for a small bit of added warmth during germination. within 36 hours the seeds are usually cracked and taproots have grown (just before the microbial army starts to begin to lose its vigor and eventually die off) i soak the rockwool starter cubes in this for like 15-20 mins max and add the germinated seeds. From there, they dont really need any nutrients until its first set of serrated leaves.. some people think this is too young, and for some strains, it is, others like it early
 
Isn't Technaflora based out of BC? Thats what I use, and I absolutely love the results. I really want to try another brand. Advanced Nutrients make some Killer Bud Candy. I think i'll try some of that next grow.
 
Isn't Technaflora based out of BC? Thats what I use, and I absolutely love the results. I really want to try another brand. Advanced Nutrients make some Killer Bud Candy. I think i'll try some of that next grow.

Yes C1, TechnaFlora is a local BC based company and i have heard quite a few good things about them. I am actually thinking about picking up small bottles of their nutrient line and seeing how i like it in comparison to the GH 3 Part.
 
I am currently uploading a video to youtube that i am going to post to my Journals here on 420.

I apologize now for the crappy ending to the video, someone called me as i was wrapping it up and the phone stopped recording!!

stay tuned!
 
Okay guys here we go.

This is the first video post for GreenThumb.

Please excuse the constant teeth sucking as i was eating a candy at the time and subconsciously did not realize it was doing it and how loud it is!!!

But its just a stoned guy showing you around his apartment talking about random things!

Hope you all enjoy! Sorry for the crappy ending, as someone called me as i was recording the video and the phone stopped filming!!

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Thanks for the tour. I think I got a contact high off unripe indoor bud :)

Thanks Rado!! Thats probably why i got so sidetracked while i'm in there. Plus, being here in person, those buds look soooo much nicer that the Iphone shows.

To be honest, the videos are kinda fun. As long as you have a plan as to what you are going to say and you dont get off topic (and you aren't TOO medicated) then the videos are short and sweet, and you feel like you're talking to someone you know? then we can have discussions about the topics talked about.


Awesome I actually enjoyed the tour . Are those the croutons I have heard talk about ? Are they te usable , my only qualm with using rockwool is it doesn't break down , and would he really interested if I could re use it

Oscart.. welcome!

>>>Are those the croutons I have heard talk about?

Yes sir they are.

>>> Are they they usable?

I'm guessing you mean re-usable. I am going to say yes, but you would have to flush them thoroughly over and over, use h2o2 in the flush then let them dry out again. then soak them in PH neutral water (7.0) for 1 hour. Take a PPM reading of the water before you put the croutons in. After one hour, take a PPM reading again and if your PPMs are higher that the original reading before the croutons went in, you need to flush it some more.

>>> my only qualm with using rockwool is it doesn't break down

Why would you want it to break down? You want it to hold its shape. Thats why they make rockwool in so many different sizes. The rockwool grow cubes (croutons) allow small air gaps, which, when you maintain a live environment in your root zone, will actually fill up with roots as they search for moisture. The great thing about rockwool is, that its very hard (almost impossible) to overwater your cannabis plants, and the rockwool itself is PH neutral, meaning it does not raise or lower the level of your PH of your water you are using.

>>> and would be really interested if I could re use it

Why would you want to re-use it tho? Rockwool is already so cheap as it is. Much cheaper than soil. Soil you have to buy a ratio of different things, up to 4 or 5 different things i've seen go into peoples soil mix, and that can get expensive. Then your nutrients on top of that.

A 6 cubic ft box costs me like, $80? Depending on how many plants you grow at a time, that should last you quite a few plants and quite a few transplants. more like a lot!

its always best to use fresh growing medium anyways, especially if this is medicine. You want to grow your cannabis in the cleanest way possible.

By the way, glad you enjoyed the tour!
 
Where I live the closest hydro store is eight hours away (joys of living in the boonies) . That's why re using it would be good option for me . The breaking down I was talking about was decomposing . Where rockwool doesn't break down to decompose in landfill . Use coco right now , and when it starts to run out its worry season lol
 
GT, good answers to Oscar. Oscar, it's time to open your own garden store :-)

Ok, now I kick back and watch this video. :popcorn:

1. Nothing wrong with the iPhone video, but if you turn it landscape, it will show correctly on YT.

2. Oh man, classic. The emergency blanket. Love it!

3. You just totally schooled me on "Dina-fem". I have been saying "Dye-na-fem" in my head. That company is in Spain, I think. Obviously pronounced "dee-na-fem". Good call. I hope yours turns out as good as mine did. Top those puppies and get the light closer to avoid string beans.

4. Do you know what caused your other plant to hermie in flower? I want to hermie my purple dream... on purpose.

5. In the airpot tub in veg, I saw some standing water in the bottom. The veg plant in LED has no waste drain. Is that on purpose? I like to drain to waste, instead of letting the plant soak everything up. Later in the video I think I heard you say you were going to switch to recirculating in veg.

6. Everything looking so healthy.

7. I like that grow box. I wish I had something like that to play around in. It is possible to keep it cool enough if you didn't leave the door open?

8. The plant in veg under LED. Not topped yet?

9. You don't sound like a weener. You speak well on the spot. People don't realize how difficult it is to not sound like a weener.

10. I want you to do the side by side too. Be sure to use at least 4 specimens on each side and share a res. This is temping for me to do it too.

11. That plant in VEG under LED is looking stellar. Nice white roots too. A+

12. Don't step on the rockwool, your socks will get wet. :rofl:

13. I still want that WW. Looking so good for 24 days. Looking at the WW in flower, your canopy looks great but I can tell you would benefit from topping earlier. I top my clones as SOON as I see new growth after rooting. Then top those two a week later. This pretty much turns one plant into 4 plants.

14. Does the single hose air con blow dank air outside?

15. I see the intake in the room for the cool tubes, where is the output?

Thanks so much for the video update. This is motivating me to do another vid. Maybe later this week.
 
MMMMMM......Smells like candy.... LOL GT, awesome video man. That apartment is a jungle for sure! With all of those plants, you should be able to pull pounds every few months.

I made the decision to get another 4x4 tent like yours and dedicate it to vegging. 2 Months Veg, then into the Flower room. Then start 2 more the same time to start vegging again. Do you think a 4x4 with the same led you have will be enough to veg 2 plants comfortably? Or go for a 5x5?
 
Where I live the closest hydro store is eight hours away (joys of living in the boonies) . That's why re using it would be good option for me . The breaking down I was talking about was decomposing . Where rockwool doesn't break down to decompose in landfill . Use coco right now , and when it starts to run out its worry season lol

Rockwool doesn't need to breakdown.. its made of rocks and rocks dont decompose!! Rocks are heated to molten temperatures then spun into wool strands as it cools, the strands are then packed together, and then cut into appropriate shapes and such and wrapped in an environment friendly wrap to prevent them from falling apart. Rockwool can be ordered online and delivered to your door. And its not really that expensive like i mentioned.

Like The Capn suggested... open up your own garden store!!


>>> 1. Nothing wrong with the iPhone video, but if you turn it landscape, it will show correctly on YT.

I will do that next video i take!!

>>> 2. Oh man, classic. The emergency blanket. Love it!

Yea it does the trick thats for sure. It doesn't create hotspots like aluminum foil does. Problem is, it keeps the majority of the heat inside the bathub area when its over the front of the frame, not on the back like it is now.

I'm thinking about building an enclosed... Thing (didn't know how to describe it.. thing works) to go in the tub.. that utilizes the drain in the tub.. making for easy drain to waste.

>>> 3. You just totally schooled me on "Dina-fem". I have been saying "Dye-na-fem" in my head. That company is in Spain, I think. Obviously pronounced "dee-na-fem". Good call. I hope yours turns out as good as mine did. Top those puppies and get the light closer to avoid string beans

i just pronounced it the way it looked to me. haha

I would love to get that light closer, but its a bare 600w bulb, not an air cooled reflector, and it puts out some heat. The seedlings (no longer seedlings in my eyes. They've past the fragile stage) have to stay at the distance they are at as i do not want to stress them while they are young.

my enclosed veg area i'm thinking of will utilize an aircooled HID, or i will put my LED i have in the tent, into the veg box and add one more LED the same size to the enclosure.

Will be topping them along with the rest of the seedlings. I "tipped" my Girl Scout Cookies i have in there yesterday as per your "bend and snap" method you did in your blog post. They are apparently a sativa dom strain, so i dont want tall tanky plants!

>>> 4. Do you know what caused your other plant to hermie in flower? I want to hermie my purple dream... on purpose.

I think it was a light leak. The GWS that hermies was the closest plant to the opening of the door.. The growing chamber is light proof tho, so i'm thinking it could have possibly just been a late flower female pollen sack that i didn't catch in time. NO problem tho, cause i got a whole bunch of beans that were VERY viable (all germinated faster than seeds i bought from breeders) and saved me a bunch of money in buying seeds. Even tho i went an ordered like 30 more seeds in the last 2 months!!

>>> 5. In the airpot tub in veg, I saw some standing water in the bottom. The veg plant in LED has no waste drain. Is that on purpose? I like to drain to waste, instead of letting the plant soak everything up. Later in the video I think I heard you say you were going to switch to recirculating in veg

Yes, you're right, everything right now has NO drain. With the exception of the Sweet Tooth under LED that doesn't have any extra water to soak up.. When i water the Sweet Tooth, i make sure that i empty the run off as well, so no roots are sitting in that nutrient mixture. The plants in veg tho.. they have extra water sitting under the pots for a day or so before the light evaporates it.

I am going to remodel my veg area temporarily to have 3 rubbermaid totes like that with holes drilled in the lids so the water drips into the totes, then the totes themselves will have drain holes in them too which will drain into the bathtub and down the drain. Sure i could just have them in the totes with no lids, but the lids are great for raise the plants 8" or so closer to the lights, especially when they are young and small.

I am thinking about somehow making a recirculating system in veg ONCE i have the RDWCs set up and on a schedule. I'm hoping that each RDWC plant can pull in 1-2lbs dried, making each system that i harvest anywhere from 2-4lbs. I will off set each system by.. i duno 4 weeks? so that one month, one system comes down, new plants go in... then a month later, the other system comes down, and new plants go in. Then a month later, the first system comes down again and is replaced.. and the cycle continues.

My issue is going to be having a veg area that can hold 2 monster plants ready for the RDWCs In their own DWC i'm thinking. Probably back to 2 big ass plants in my bathroom again, with the clones of each hiding underneath the canopy in a humidity dome like near the end of my first journal

>>> 6. Everything looking so healthy.

Thanks. That means a lot coming from someone who's grow is pretty much like clockwork and always seems so impeccable. Except the widow in flower that has a bit of gnat damage (i actually dont seen many of those fuckers anymore and i conveniently brought home some sticky traps too.. damn!), everything is actually looking really really healthy. I am actually pleased with the grow box's performance this time around. As you may or may not remember, i scrapped the Hydrotub the first run and made my own DWC tubs. This time i am using the top feed system. I am making sure to keep a live environment in my reservoir, like i learned from you.

>>> 7. I like that grow box. I wish I had something like that to play around in. It is possible to keep it cool enough if you didn't leave the door open?

The grow box is actually really nice.. I really dislike how little vertical growing space you have.. I wish i had researched a bit more and saved up some extra money and gotten a Trinity 3.0 From SuperCloset (check Stealthgrow's journals he has the LED version)

Its 6ft tall, which give you a decent amount of vertical space to work with, has 2 separate closets for perpetual grows, and a built in veg/clone/seedling area at the bottom with T5's, and also has an LED version as well if people decide to use LED's. Also fully automated like my grow box..

I went with BC Northern Lights cause i can take a hour and 45 min bus adventure to get there, or a 45 min drive if the Lady is home and it came with a 3 year warranty on parts and labour, plus 365 day a year tech and grow support. They give you their cell numbers to call them if you have a problem, very good people there. SuperCloset comes with a warranty and such but i don't know about tech and grow support, or if you are able to pick up if you live locally like i do.

I guess this stuff outweighs the height constrictions, as well as the fact that its so low to the ground. But that can easily be fixed by putting the box on to risers or blocks to raise it up.

>>> 8. The plant in veg under LED. Not topped yet?

Topping it today, transplanting it today, going to take the two lowest branches off and clone them today.

This Sweet Tooth came from a regular seed, and i would like to know if i have a female, or if i am tossing it now, and ordering some more Sweet Tooth seeds.

The breeder they came from (BC Bud Depot) used to be quite a shady breeder with a terrible reputation. But since then, they have changed head breeder guys and management and such and now have some really good quality genetics on their menu, plus offer a lot of other good quality breeders strains, like Reeferman, T.H.Seeds, Soma seeds, Delta Nine Labs and DNA genentics

>>>11. That plant in VEG under LED is looking stellar. Nice white roots too. A+

Thanks. Gona step up the tea usage to 1 time every week, maybe even once every 4 days. gotta stop being so lazy with the beneficials!

>>> 12. Don't step on the rockwool, your socks will get wet.

True story.

+1

>>> 13. I still want that WW. Looking so good for 24 days. Looking at the WW in flower, your canopy looks great but I can tell you would benefit from topping earlier. I top my clones as SOON as I see new growth after rooting. Then top those two a week later. This pretty much turns one plant into 4 plants

I should have topped it earlier, but this was my first grow, and i didnt know squat! I let it grow vertical for a long time before topping it and taking clones from the middle of it, thats why theres a big section missing. Theres a couple lower branches that normally should have been taken off because half of them wont get very big, but those will still be good for a dry ice kief run, as well as the tops of those branches are actually developing pretty well, and will probably be taken for a sample close to harvest, or kept depending on its size. its all pretty frosty tho, so i'm most likely keeping it all.

I am going to top all my plants now i'm thinking so that i can keep them low and bush them out and have a bunch of plants with wide, flat, even canopies!

>>> 14. Does the single hose air con blow dank air outside?

It does not actually, i cant find the specific page that has the specifications of this AC, but i dont smell anything when i smell the exhaust hose. Plus, my exhaust fan in the big tent sucks so much air in, that no smell escapes even when the tent door flap is open. The grow box is starting to stink right now, but thats cause i dont have the carbon filter on it at the moment.

>>> 15. I see the intake in the room for the cool tubes, where is the output?

The output for the lights as well as the exhaust for the whole big tent comes above my head when walking towards the big tent, its just hanging on the top of the doors that open from the den into the spare bedroom. They then lay on the top of the 4x4 tent then dangle down behind the AC at the moment.

I am working on getting all the ducting into one main exhaust duct so i dont have like 3 silver dryer ducts, plus an AC hose coming ot my window.. we dont need a knock on the door!

>> Thanks so much for the video update. This is motivating me to do another vid. Maybe later this week

You really should. I'm sure your grow space has changed a lot since the last video you did, which reminds me, i should go watch it again.



>>> Do you think a 4x4 with the same led you have will be enough to veg 2 plants comfortably? Or go for a 5x5?

Hey C 1... a 4x4 tent will be a sufficient size, but maybe you want to get 2 of those lights just to make sure you have some good wattage being put out by the LEDs. as well as some good penetration. Especially if you wanna veg 2 beasts before they go into the RDWC. I dont know if its LED, but it seems like its taken forever for the Sweet Tooth to get this big.

Maybe i just dont remember now long and slow this process is before the rapid growth phase!!


And Finally, today is my Birthday as some of you know, and while i was laying in bed still and Lady GT was walking our dog, she checked the mail on the way upstairs, and this is what i found inside of a yellow envelope:

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THANKS Cannabis 1!! NO, the buds did NOT come from him, but what i was going to fill one of those rollies with....

Which I did:
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Great way to start my birthday! Thanks buddy!

Anyways, i'm off to do a bit of garden work around the apartment then will be heading out for a nice birthday dinner with Lady GreenThumb later this evening!

Hope everyone is having a great day!
 
You've got so much going on there... You're in deep.

Hey, is that the "Swear jar" in the picture with the birthday cake?

Keep me posted on your new DWC set up. Maybe I'll run one with you.
 
AHHH YEAAA!! Anytime brother!! I saw that J in Lady GT'S Journal, and figured it was the Marley! Enjoy!! 1.6 g's..... Bob approves
 
AHHH YEAAA!! Anytime brother!! I saw that J in Lady GT'S Journal, and figured it was the Marley! Enjoy!! 1.6 g's..... Bob approves

hahaha oh yea!! we both approved too.. Lady GT was just DONE after the joint haha, so was i tho!

This pink kush we have is really something special.. I'm pretty sure its from the Old Reeferman stock before they went under (i think they went under) that was saved for Dr. Underground Seeds.

I'm thinking i wanna pick some seeds up because this stuff is really worth while
 
I might get some of those also. I have been looking at a few new strains also.

- TGA Subcool 9 Pound Hammer
- BC Bud Depot- The Purps
- Soma G13 Haze-Reclining Buddah

These all look gorgeous. What do you guys think?
 
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