GreenThumb J's White Widow Clone Run RTF/DWC

GT, I like the recipe, I like the plans for the new system, and I like the buds. Very nice man. You are doing it right, that's for sure.

1. Is that a smell proof zipper bag? It looks thick.

2. In your recipe, maybe at some point you could add in the calculations for kool bloom.

I enjoy reading your posts. Well written and well documented with pictures and all. I want that WW.
 
Im pretty sure that the SNS is only a soil drench. KJC Recommended it when I had my outbreak, but I couldn't use it.

I used the mosquito dunks with no success. But I did steal a recipe from BAR that worked the best out of the products I tried. The recipe is:
1 QT H2O
1 Cap of Hydrogen Peroxide
2 small drops of liquid dish soap

Shake the spray bottle well and spray all the leaves and growing medium. Spray once a day generously for 3 days and your problem should be solved. I didn't exterminate all the little f'rs but got them down to almost nothing
 
TheCapn said:
GT, I like the recipe, I like the plans for the new system, and I like the buds. Very nice man. You are doing it right, that's for sure.

1. Is that a smell proof zipper bag? It looks thick.

2. In your recipe, maybe at some point you could add in the calculations for kool bloom.

I enjoy reading your posts. Well written and well documented with pictures and all. I want that WW.
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1. Yes those are smelly proof bags, and are thick. Love em!
2. As soon as I buy the KoolBloom products, I will updated amounts I put in!

Thanks Capn! No 100 pages of pictures here! And we try to keep it humorous around here, cause after all, this is a hobby, not our businesses!

Cannabis 1 said:
Im pretty sure that the SNS is only a soil drench. KJC Recommended it when I had my outbreak, but I couldn't use it.

I used the mosquito dunks with no success. But I did steal a recipe from BAR that worked the best out of the products I tried. The recipe is:
1 QT H2O
1 Cap of Hydrogen Peroxide
2 small drops of liquid dish soap

Shake the spray bottle well and spray all the leaves and growing medium. Spray once a day generously for 3 days and your problem should be solved. I didn't exterminate all the little f'rs but got them down to almost nothing
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Yo, C1, SNS 203 is a root drench. It will work in a hydro system as well, as far as I read, just soak your growing Medium with it. If you're growin in rockwool grow cubes, you're already imitating a soil-like grow right!

I'll let ya know if it doesn't work for me!!
 
You have to remember NWG... I don't live in the states.. 3/4 of what you American growers use, isn't available in Canada. Not just the hydro stores don't sell the products, but 3/4 of what is available in America, is not allowed to cross the border into Canada.

My next nutrient line will be TechnaFlora, because they are a local BC based (mission BC 45 min drive away!). Heard nothing but great things, plus loads of users here at 420 use the product with great reviews.
 
Ahhh my bad totally forgot.. Im about 5-6 hours from the canadian border. From Vancouver… not Canada. Washington. Lol can't tell you how many times I've been on vacation and someone asks where Im from… I say Vancouver.. There response, oh I have family in B.c… im like NOT canada! Hahah off topic… I've also heard great thing's about Technaflora, and fort support local economy! Thats my Thought process anyways…
 
haha yea, you're a hop skip and jump (through some security hoops aka the Border lol)

That is rather funny. Lots of people dont know there is a Vancouver in Washington State.

And i love to support local business whenever i can. I love taking trips down to the hydro store. The guys there are friendly and they secretly know their shit.

Technaflora definitely makes a good line of nutrients. At least what i'm told. For me, i have to test new things to see for myself how they work. So, i will buy small bottles of their nutrient line and run it side by side to my GH line up. when the time comes that is to restock my nutrients

I'm about to order 12 2" uniseals and 3 1/2" uniseals for my 2 RDWC's But i'm contemplating drilling a hole in an old container and seeing if the bushings i got instead of bulkheads, are going to work.. Cause if not i will order the right ones right now. But if they do, i'm not going to bother to spend $70 on 15 uniseals!
 
Respectfully i have to disagree. Theres a reason the big name brands are the bigger names, they tend to work better. Theres a reason why companies like AN, GH, TechnaFlora, Botanicare and Dutch Master sell more product annually than their lesser competitors.

What i really want to try is the 3-part Holland's Secret formula from Future Harvest. However, I am being drawn into TechnaFlora's PH stability. But, thats also whats keeping me from switching from GH right now is the PH stability with my recipe.

I used Future Harvests with my grow box on the first run, and it did a decent job, but then again, i had nothing to compare it to!
 
If it can be used as a root drench too, then I apologize. Let me know how it works. If its solid, Ill order some now incase I get into any trouble....

Did your bushings work?
 
I haven't cut a hole yet to see, but i've already ordered the 12 2" uniseals and 3 1/2" seals.

And i will let ya know if the SNS 203 works.. Capn also suggested in a blog post to use a microbe lift mosquito control for ponds etc.. found a couple canadian places but the shit isn't cheap!!
 
Dusty Kiefers said:
Im sure using any nutrient brand correctly will give exactly the same yeild.
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I also have to disagree.. Theres alot of companies that just flat out out perform.
And yeah It cracks me up too. Thats why I just say im from Portland! And there's only a couple things in my rooms thats not local.. National garden wholesale, sunlight supply, advanced nutrients, vita grow, flying skull, are all manufactured in my back yard!!
 
I was actually reading an article about why lots of companies actually are better than the rest. If you look at the labels between two different companies, they might look almost identical, but that bottle of bud booster, or Micro thats more expensive, MOST LIKELY, contains much more inrgedients than the cheaper products. Even if the labels state the same ingredients.

The big bottle brands like GH and AN all have a huge team of PHD's on research and development teams and have the money to be able to jump through the political hoops the AAPFCO puts out in order to have a company state all the beneficial ingredients in their products. Smaller companies cant afford this extra process that can take up to five years, then have to spend the money to change all the labels. Whereas big companies like GH and AN who can put this extra money into development, and the extra money into putting the products you can list on labels as per the AAPFCO list of allowed products.

The labels you read are the stripped down versions. Normally a manufacturer will have a list of all included ingredients on their webpage, but has to adhere to the label laws, which gives an unfair advantage over smaller companies that might use better products.

Dusty is using TechnaFlora.. i dont know if they fall under the required label laws of the AAPFCO since thats an american based company, and has nothing to do with canadian regulations. But i would be interested to find out.


Hey NWG.. i looked at your drain on page 3 of your journal i think it was.. maybe page 5. I'm still a little fuzzy how you utilize your pump and gravity to get most the water out since you're using a much bigger system than Cannabis 1 and myself are using... its the same idea, but maybe i'm just not seeing it in the way you made it.
 
No worries, I shut my fill line and leave my drain line to the res open. The mag drive then pumps all the water to my res. Then I shut my drain line so no water can go back into the system, I open my res drain which is that t and ball valve coming off the res. It wil leave a couple inches (if that) of water but I keep my res shut, fill with fresh water, open. Close drain. Open all valves and open res and flood the system with fresh water then repeat the drain process. I only do that when I transition. Its sounds like more work then it really is!

I can pm you a sketch and some more details if necessary!
 
My 2 cents on the nutrient discussion, if I may....

What everyone said here is mostly correct, in my opinion.

I started with botanicare, then went to GH, then to dutch master, then to advanced. Every nutrient line I tried, seem to yield better than the previous one. Why? Because I kept getting to be a better grower. If you picked one of the 4 brands and told me I had to grow with it forever, I wouldn't really care. I would do fine with any of them, and so would you.

If you know me, you know I grow perpetually. Each plant is a harvest. I run 3-4 plants in flower all the time so I harvest every 2-3 weeks. Doing it this way, catapults your experience ahead of the other guy who flowers an entire room out every two months. With a perpetual grow, you literally get 4 times the experience in the same amount of time. When you grow the same genetics over and over, you get to know it, and you get to "fine tune" it. Only then you can someone tell if one line really out-performs another. Honestly, I can't tell you that any of the 4 lines I've run, have any exceptional advantage over the other.

The way I see it, it's 75% green thumb (no pun intended), and 25% everything else (nutrients, light, temp, technique, etc). You can give someone an exact recipe, but only experience will make them a true chef.
 
No i think i get it.. ball valve on either side of the res drain.. close off the return to the system then open up the drain ball valve and drain the res.. I WAS going to ask you for a picture.. but i am going to sketch a drawing of my setup and how i think i will do it..

Building maintenance guy is done his shit, now i can get to building and not worry about when he's coming over.. even tho he's actually a pretty cool guy who i actually met at my old job as i was moving into the building. Plus, i think he's a pot head.. or at least used to be now he's got kid(s).. takes a pothead to know a pothead right?

So, now i can start drilling some holes and checking the bushings i got to see if they are useable without having to cement them into place.

Damn.. have to go to hardware store to get a new hole saw drill bit cause the one i have is stuck in my 3.5" hole saw..


Always something slowing me down!!!!
 
Well informative discussion on nutrients. Can anyone say definitively if stuff like beneficials (orca, great white, aquashield) are they organics? If so why do they work but other organics can't like ancient earth which is just humic and fumic acids? I'm using AN line GMB but got high PPM water was suggested I switch to GH hardwater micro line. Can I just buy GH Micro for hardwater and continue to use my AN grow bloom parts? I may be confused about whats organic and whats not.
 
Greenthumb J said:
No i think i get it.. ball valve on either side of the res drain.. close off the return to the system then open up the drain ball valve and drain the res.. I WAS going to ask you for a picture.. but i am going to sketch a drawing of my setup and how i think i will do it.

Building maintenance guy is done his shit, now i can get to building and not worry about when he's coming over.. even tho he's actually a pretty cool guy who i actually met at my old job as i was moving into the building. Plus, i think he's a pot head.. or at least used to be now he's got kid(s).. takes a pothead to know a pothead right?

So, now i can start drilling some holes and checking the bushings i got to see if they are useable without having to cement them into place.

Damn.. have to go to hardware store to get a new hole saw drill bit cause the one i have is stuck in my 3.5" hole saw..


Always something slowing me down!!!!
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Exactly! With my system I have to pump everything to the red before I drain. Im confident you'll get it! Lemme know you need more help! Thats what were all here for after all isnt it.. Haha
 
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