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I don't really know. :hmmmm: I haven't had Sour Diesel yet, so it may be a similar buzz, from the way I've heard it described. In fact, I've often wondered if the unknown genetics are close to SD.

Anyway, most strains have a sedative effect once the rush wears off. I get the euphoric high which lasts 15-20 minutes before it fades, and then the underlying stone will last a couple hours. That underlying stone is different in Carnival and similar strains. Usually I'll feel tired and unmotivated.

But with Carnival, after an hour or so I feel like moving around and doing something. I still feel stoned but not inactive. Instead of vegging at the puter I feel like walking the dog or taking care of some chore. I'm more eager to engage with the world and find out what it may have to offer. I don't know if it showed at the beach but I'm a fidgety guy. :) When I'm sitting relaxed, I'll bounce my knee or foot, my arms are quick to gesture, etc. I noticed that at 2:00 in the morning, after constantly "sipping" a few hits every 20 minutes all evening, my foot will still be bouncing, and I don't feel fatigued. I'm tired and ready to sleep but I'm not stoned out.

That's always been the fly in the ointment for me (and many others) with cannabis use. I feel better stoned, but I don't feel like doing much, right? So Carnival puts me in my right mind and doesn't isolate me as a loadie. And because I know that, I can get high with ... freedom? I know I won't have to fight fatigue. That makes the rush even better, y'know?

Africans and SE Asian strain have a similar energy to them but they're also disorienting - the "trippy" buzz. The GT x Oldtimers was very energetic but it felt like it drained my mental energy - "thinned" me out - twirly eyed - kinda "twitchy". It makes me feel like I'm constantly overlooking stuff - harder to keep my mental bearings. It's more challenging than soothing. Carnival has enough of something to it to keep the high "kind". That's a word that resonates with me - some strains are kinder than others. The Brazilians are like that, along with a lot of the Colombian/Mexican/Thai crosses. You get the energy from the Thai and Lumbo, and the Mexican moderates it enough to be kind.

See, I'm into the rush. :) I want to tap a rush a few times an hour when I smoke. Rush, fade, rush, fade. With most strains I can't do that. The stone will sap me too much. I've never really identified with the "no ceiling" idea, but it's probably related to that. They say when you smoke some strains you just get higher and higher. I don't, really. I get "there", wherever that is, like banging on the ceiling. So each time I hit it, I'm there again - bang, bang, bang. If I try that with most strains, I become uselessly tired. With Carnival, the rush fades, the humming stone sets in, and then everything clears and I feel bright and right. I find myself thinking of things to do while I'm stoned. And if I want another rush, I know that it won't slow me down.

It feels like there's an undesirable cannabinoid missing from Carnival, or some extra something that feels kind. Amy has been wondering about CBG. And Carnival also has the terp profile that I prefer - light sweet lime/berry with a fuel backnote, so that might be part of it.

I have a Raspberry Diesel (Cherry Afghan x Sour Diesel) in bloom, so I'll finally have a chance to see how SDs compare. :bongrip:

:Namaste:


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I don't really know. :hmmmm: I haven't had Sour Diesel yet, so it may be a similar buzz, from the way I've heard it described. In fact, I've often wondered if the unknown genetics are close to SD.

Anyway, most strains have a sedative effect once the rush wears off. I get the euphoric high which lasts 15-20 minutes before it fades, and then the underlying stone will last a couple hours. That underlying stone is different in Carnival and similar strains. Usually I'll feel tired and unmotivated.

But with Carnival, after an hour or so I feel like moving around and doing something. I still feel stoned but not inactive. Instead of vegging at the puter I feel like walking the dog or taking care of some chore. I'm more eager to engage with the world and find out what it may have to offer. I don't know if it showed at the beach but I'm a fidgety guy. :) When I'm sitting relaxed, I'll bounce my knee or foot, my arms are quick to gesture, etc. I noticed that at 2:00 in the morning, after constantly "sipping" a few hits every 20 minutes all evening, my foot will still be bouncing, and I don't feel fatigued. I'm tired and ready to sleep but I'm not stoned out.

That's always been the fly in the ointment for me (and many others) with cannabis use. I feel better stoned, but I don't feel like doing much, right? So Carnival puts me in my right mind and doesn't isolate me as a loadie. And because I know that, I can get high with ... freedom? I know I won't have to fight fatigue. That makes the rush even better, y'know?

Africans and SE Asian strains have a similar energy to them but they're also disorienting - the "trippy" buzz. The GT x Oldtimers was very energetic but it felt like it drained my mental energy - "thinned" me out - twirly eyed - kinda "twitchy". It makes me feel like I'm constantly overlooking stuff - harder to keep my mental bearings. It's more challenging than soothing. Carnival has enough of something to it to keep the high "kind". That's a word that resonates with me - some strains are kinder than others. The Brazilians are like that, along with a lot of the Colombian/Mexican/Thai crosses. You get the energy from the Thai and Lumbo, and the Mexican moderates it enough to be kind.

See, I'm into the rush. :) I want to tap a rush a few times an hour when I smoke. Rush, fade, rush, fade. With most strains I can't do that. The stone will sap me too much. I've never really identified with the "no ceiling" idea, but it's probably related to that. They say when you smoke some strains you just get higher and higher. I don't, really. I get "there", wherever that is, like banging on the ceiling. So each time I hit it, I'm there again - bang, bang, bang. If I try that with most strains, I become uselessly tired. With Carnival, the rush fades, the humming stone sets in, and then everything clears and I feel bright and right. I find myself thinking of things to do while I'm stoned. And if I want another rush, I know that it won't slow me down.

It feels like there's an undesirable cannabinoid missing from Carnival, or some extra something that feels kind. Amy has been wondering about CBG. And Carnival also has the terp profile that I prefer - light sweet lime/berry with a fuel backnote, so that might be part of it.

I have a Raspberry Diesel (Cherry Afghan x Sour Diesel) in bloom, so I'll finally have a chance to see how SDs compare. :bongrip:

:Namaste:

Ok you described that perfectly! Now I know what to recommend to you based on what I've grown. I tell ya the one I have right now that fits that bill to a tee is the Lemon Paki x GG. We smoked it last night and it was just as you describe, I actually had to switch to some GDP to be able to sit still. Clementine is another that fit that bill for me. All the ACE sativas except Congo eventually made me sleepy or has a stony undertone to them. Now that I think about it my Zamaldelica was very energetic with no stone or come down it just faded away and that was the African pheno. I love the sour diesel but tend to over indulge and at high doses it can have a slow down to it. My Carnival will put me out if I smoke it for a while too.

I retested the Bubba Hash and got the results back today. I was wonder if it was actually getting better each run or if it was all in my head. The potency came back really close but the Terps went from 2.01% to 2.41%...:slide:. I had to call the lab because the initial report said .24%. I called them and told them it was tested at their lab over a year ago and the terps were 2.01 and I only retested it because I felt the terps were the strongest they had ever been. They retested right away and updated the result. I was shocked when I saw the .24%. The lowest terps I remember having on any strain was .77% and that was because their machine was down for 2 weeks and the sample sat out until it was tested. Anything over 1% is considered excellent.
 
I'm glad you can identify! There are only a few people who I can talk to about the character and progression of a high. :bongrip:

I'm startled to hear that the Paki/GG has it. :hmmmm: I didn't get that from Paki, but we were smoking a lot of strains all at once. But now that I think about it, Paki would be a buzzy hashplant, wouldn't it? Clementine sounds right, too. :slide: Someday I'll get ahold of those genetics. And yep, I'm more impressed with Zam every time I run it. Of course, mine are Ziggy crosses but they're surprisingly uniform and the buzz is consistent.

Interesting news on Bubba. So we can definitely influence terps, maybe not potency so much. Hmm. Someday I'm going to go through all the PSI results to see what the ranges are. I only really know about the Brix crowd results.

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I'm glad you can identify! There are only a few people who I can talk to about the character and progression of a high. :bongrip:

I'm startled to hear that the Paki/GG has it. :hmmmm: I didn't get that from Paki, but we were smoking a lot of strains all at once. But now that I think about it, Paki would be a buzzy hashplant, wouldn't it? Clementine sounds right, too. :slide: Someday I'll get ahold of those genetics. And yep, I'm more impressed with Zam every time I run it. Of course, mine are Ziggy crosses but they're surprisingly uniform and the buzz is consistent.

Interesting news on Bubba. So we can definitely influence terps, maybe not potency so much. Hmm. Someday I'm going to go through all the PSI results to see what the ranges are. I only really know about the Brix crowd results.

:passitleft:
I've done sat stoned and going through the test results. At first there weren't many doing terps which is all I was interested in. Now there are a lot more. I like looking at the dispensary menus and then look up the test results. Especially when they try and shove the 30% garlic cookies down your throat. I've found most of those with crazy high thc numbers actually have very low terps. That garlic cookies was something like .28%. My best to date is still Clementine at 2.67%.

The Lemon Paki x GG was definitely an outlier. That plant had spears for buds, it looked nothing like Lemon Paki or GG and the smell is straight up flowers. The buds went a chocolate purple. Stoney Memoirs thinks it was a chocolate diesel phenotype. I wish I could of kept that plant but the naners were overwhelming.
 
@Gazoo, DrDoob told me yesterday that Ministry of Cannabis is having a 20% sale. :battingeyelashes:

Graytail, I love to sit and listen to you describe the buzz. There’s something in Carnival that I don’t find in anything else I’ve grown or tasted. Regardless of the quality I’m presented with Carnival remains the one I reach for most consistently, and it’s the clarity of the buzz that keeps bringing me back. I don’t get confused when I’m rediculously high on Carnival.

I also never get that heaviness behind my eyes that typically sets in with all the others, or that lull where you find yourself yawning right at the beginning of a good buzz. Carnival opens my mind and fires up my curiosity. I smoke it right up to the moment I crawl to bed. Lol!

For the longest time I questioned my experience, wondering if I’d hyped myself into believing it was something more. Then friends started requesting it and calling it “the good stuff” and I relaxed. Lol! Now I just go with it and smile when the terpene rush hits the nose as I crack the jar open.

Must be time for a Carn wake ‘n bake. :slide:
 
I've found that Carnival is very similar in buzz to the purple Malawi that I run. Carnival had a touch of Indica, but just a smidge. Other than that they are identical from what I can see. I can smoke it all day and night long and it keeps me revved up. Smoking more and more just starts to put me into a stupor, but I'm still energized, to the point where I can't sleep if I don't stop smoking it about an hour before I fall asleep.
 
I've found that Carnival is very similar in buzz to the purple Malawi that I run. Carnival had a touch of Indica, but just a smidge. Other than that they are identical from what I can see. I can smoke it all day and night long and it keeps me revved up. Smoking more and more just starts to put me into a stupor, but I'm still energized, to the point where I can't sleep if I don't stop smoking it about an hour before I fall asleep.

Neat! I’ll be sure to give the Purple Malawi a go.
 
Neat! I’ll be sure to give the Purple Malawi a go.
It's a rare pheno in Ace's Malawi. The only way to get seeds reliably purple is on the breeders pack, which is pricey.

I'm currently testing seeds from a backcross of it using Ultra Dawg. I'm trying to get close to it in seed form. Once I get it down, I'll have to see about some making it down NOLA way.
 
Ok, I have another update. :ganjamon:

I've been pretty nervous about nursing these big plants for another several weeks, but it appears that I got through at least one week without a disaster. Blue Dream is too big for its britches so I had to add some stakes for support. Carn1 needed a little help too, but Carn2 with fewer tops is still standing stiffly on her own. Of course there's no room for anything to fall over in there anyway. They all have another 5 weeks to go, so I imagine weight is gonna be an issue. :)
















Blubba Hash - 26 days





And Raspberry Diesel - 8 days - looking luscious and green. :)






DurBush continues to be an interesting plant. It finally stopped stretching at 50 inches and it's growing some very sturdy budsites. I have no idea when it'll finish, probably not in the 9 weeks the breeder stated. Bushmans is an intriguing landrace and I wonder if I have a leaner. It doesn't really resonate with me as a Durban, but I've never grown one.





And these are the first good pics I've taken of UBH x GT. I'm impressed with the shine! I really like the look of this plant. :love:





Here's UBH itself.





The last small ones are KingGelato and DC6 at 13 days. It looks like DC6 is getting some color.




And here they are all stuffed back into the room. :slide:


DevilsCarnival4 was ready for chop at 58 days so that opened up a square foot or so, heheh. It was a nice little fatty and I'm looking forward to the yield. It looks like the lower stuff got some color, too. :yummy:







:bongrip::Namaste:
 
Perty Graytail. Wow, you actually have me drolling. Lol!

Let me go back and look again. :battingeyelashes:
 
Darn it Graytail! No way am I ever gonna match you! Lol!

Is there color already on the DC6?
 
Yep, all the buds have DDA-like purpling on the inner buds. :) Hey, wait until you have those incredible rooms to work in! :drool:

I read through portions of Nis and Canna's work during that period and I have a better idea what to expect from these and the seeds I got from DC2. I didn't realize that they used a single plant to get these F2s. They reversed a DDA and pollinated a Carnival, then they took a nice photoperiod plant from the F1s and reversed part of it for a S1, pollinating itself. Then, I had one of those also drop pollen on itself. So ... :hmmmm: .... what exactly do I have? I have F3s, but they're pretty restricted already. In F2s, the purples should be 1/4, but mine is selfed, so are we back to 1/2? And the Auto trait is greatly reduced. In these F2s, it's 1/4, and it should be 1/8 in the F3s.

Anyway, I have high hopes for this seed.



@Duggan, here are the two Deadly Sativas I started. :slide:



And DC4 Cut decided to veg after all. :)

 
With your little ones, you’re running them 11/13 from seed?

:Namaste:

Actually, no. I veg them under 20/4 for 40-50 days first. Originally I had planned to do just that, but I don't have the space to start them in their final pots, so I veg in cups, and then upcan to 3 gallons and usually flip. The sativas can go straight to bloom, but the hybrids need another week in veg.

At flip, the sativas will take as much longer as they need before they're mature enough to sprout pistils, sometimes weeks longer, but the hybrids tend to show at the typical 10 days or so. So even if I ran them all 11/13 from seed, I doubt they'd bloom much earlier anyway. And this gives me more control until I have to commit to bloom. Sometimes we get clinkers. :)

I'm still working it out. This run, I let the small ones go longer in veg. I didn't see packed rootballs from the last batch so it looks like 3 gallons will support more of a plant than I thought. The timing is so sensitive! It's not really possible to know how much stretch I'll get. So I have some that are nice and big, and I have some that are too big. Sheesh, less than a week in veg can make a 1 foot difference in stretch for some of these landrace types. They get into the room, they keeping growing ... then they bloom when they're 2 feet tall already.

But so far it's been very entertaining. I think I like it almost as much as growing the big ones. They look so proper at that size. And it's just the right amount of yield for two nice quiet elderly people who like variety in their weeds. :battingeyelashes:
 
They look so proper at that size. And it's just the right amount of yield for two nice quiet elderly people who like variety in their weeds. :battingeyelashes:
I’m thinking these things exactly. Plus I have a fetish for mini things. Advanced brix chops though keeping the soil community happy in the 3gals... I won’t be trying it for a little while yet, but I definitely want to one day. I just love the way they look. :)
 
Looking great in here Gray. Very shiny and frosty!

On the DC. Your self pollination of an S1 would make S2s. If there are green and purple in the S1s and you had a purple one that self pollinated, they should all be purple, but that's hard to say by how the S1s came out. Normally purple buds are recessive, but there must be more than 1 gene tied to it, otherwise there wouldn't be the variation in color in the S1S generation.

It hermied on you though, dot that's definitely a trait that will carry over to the S2s you made. Keep an eye on them for nanners.
 
Thanks Morglie!

So far, no two F2s phenos have been the same.

Amazingly, only one bud on the lowest branch was seeded, and I didn't find anything that might have caused it. So I feel fairly safe. I really hope this pheno is an improvement on the breeding. It feels just as strong as a green pheno but with very strong terps.

Then can I expect mostly purple phenos from the F3s? The F2s have been 1/4 purple, with some color on 1 out of 2.

[Edit] After more thought ... I should get all purples from these seeds ...

If both parents, in this case the only parent, are purple, then there wasn't a dominant green gene in the mix, right? The F1 was green, and 3/4 of the F2s were green so far, and I have selfed seeds from a purple. So ... no green left?

I like that. :)
 
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