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Your PPM's out of the tap are not that bad Grandpa, I wish mine were that low!

Your humidity is low, if you can get it up in the 40's- 50's that would help considerably, basically the leaves need humidity to function properly, your roots and leaves function together and both need the proper amount moisture to do that.

If the wet towel in a bowl is not working, you can mist the leaves with a spray bottle just before lights out. When lights are on, you can do the same but just mist it in the tent or on the tent walls and not on the leaves, this will get you by for now until you can budget for a small single room humidifier for future grows.

Your PH is in range, you could try raising it slightly so your run-off is around 6.5 and observe the growth but I would try bringing up your humidity up first before doing that to see if you notice any improvement.

Results will not be instant, but should show improvement in the next few days. Hoping for the best!:cheertwo:
 
Yeah I figured the ppm out the tap would have been much higher! Would still like to know what the "base" is, but under 150 isn't at all too high. I read that even after several days, you can still feel water weight in the pots? Would like to see an update, Grandpa. Definitely try to get the humidity up a little bit. In fact, I may start trying to get mine up as a preventative measure :o the air in my house is very very dry - I have to set a tray of water in my grow room and even that only keeps me around 30% RH.
 
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Update time!
The humidity now reads at between 46 and 49% depending on where the probe is in the tent. The PPMs are at 1:11 after 24 hours after placing the water in the bubble bucket. Remember, the bubbler has been taken out since yesterday morning. The reading then was 117. The pots are still a little heavy, but I can tell that water is possibly needed soon. We have the pots sitting on little platforms above the trays that have air holes in them. Hopefully that will let enough air flow occur. Strangely, the humidity in the room where the tent is is in the fifties. The high 50s. Makes me wonder even more whether we need to add an intake fan to the tent. If there is any more info you guys need, let me know what it is.

Dabber...you are more than welcome! Plenty of room here, especially for those bringing the poofs. Pull up a chair and help yourself to the Cokes and Mountain Dews.
 
I think it's your lights that is making your rh drop in the tent. Just keep doing what your doing to keep it where it is in the tent. Maybe mist the walls with some water but not the plants when the lights are on
 
imtoasted said:
Hmm well ppms seem fine.. sorry i missed the earlier post, im sure i forgot lol. I wonder if there is a lot of chloramine in your water. Its pretty hard on a plants root system and may take its toll over a period of time.
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I'm pretty sure his pH was too low for soil.
They're gonna bump it up a little bit. See if it makes the nutes more available.
 
Eyes4grandpa said:
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Update time!
The humidity now reads at between 46 and 49% depending on where the probe is in the tent. The PPMs are at 1:11 after 24 hours after placing the water in the bubble bucket. Remember, the bubbler has been taken out since yesterday morning. The reading then was 117. The pots are still a little heavy, but I can tell that water is possibly needed soon. We have the pots sitting on little platforms above the trays that have air holes in them. Hopefully that will let enough air flow occur. Strangely, the humidity in the room where the tent is is in the fifties. The high 50s. Makes me wonder even more whether we need to add an intake fan to the tent. If there is any more info you guys need, let me know what it is.
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The humidity reading was just after lights on this morning right Grandpa? Its best to check the temperature and humidity at the top of the canopy or as near the top and as close to the plants as you can. Let us know what the humidity reads just before lights off, your light will dry the tent out quite a bit during the time it is on.

As long as you think you have good air flow entering the bottom of the tent vents, then there shouldn't be a need for a intake fan because your top vent fan pushing the air out should be creating negative pressure inside the tent.

Your temperatures sound good, and if you have a fan inside blowing air around the plants that should help dry out your pots faster so you don't have root rot problems.

When is the last time that you feed any nutes with your water?
 
OT...the humidity was taken just a short time after lights on. We will run it again tonight just before lights off. We are going to have to keep a close eye on the water bowl with the towel. It seems to run out of water very quickly. But it is apparently helping the humidity in there. We took the RH readings at five or six different spots in the tent at different height levels and the majority of the reading came back between 48 and 49%. Two or three were lower than that, but not lower than 46%.
Glad to hear we may not need another fan. We do have the clip on fan that is running air over them as gently as possible. I don't know if much of it is hitting the pots at all. But I'm going to assume that putting them up on those little plastic racks with the holes in them in maybe going to help them dry out better.
As for the nutes, it has been at least two weeks, probably longer than that even. Kelley tells me that Emma is still pushing out new growth, and Elsa is still pretty much stuck where she is.
 
Quick report....
Even with water in the bowl and towel soaking wet when we check the humidity just before lights off, the rh was back down to 28 or 29 per cent. We put Kelley's cold air humidifier into the tent. First thing in the morning we will check the humidity again before church. I am really agree with PW on the pH, and I think these are the only two things left to get into range. We'll see everyone in the morning, have a blessed night.
 
I haven't seen a pH measurement from your tap water Grandpa.....if you have posted it, I missed it. Definitely want to try to give her water around 6.5 in soil if you can. I recommend using Earth Juice crystals as an organic product to adjust your pH as necessary if you are growing in soil. I would assume you need to bring it down as most tap water runs high (mine runs about 9.2). I will continue to go back and keep reading from the start but you are competing with football and UFC on the weekend so my time is limited for now. Good luck to you buddy....someone here will get you squared away soon
 
Yeah sometimes it takes a village right? Seems like your getting some quality advice from experienced folks here gramps. Wishing your plants a speedy recovery ✌
 
Sun...welcome! Thanks a lot for chiming in, and don't be a stranger in here. As far as your question, what I meant was that I mixed them 1/4 strength together in the container of water. Not that I mix them technical strength.
VS...our tap water comes out at about 7.10 to 7.5. We are using ph up and PH down to adjust it. I think we may have made a mistake by adjusting the whole 5 gallon bubble bucket instead of adjusting in the container before we water or feed. I think we should be doing it only in the container that we are going to use. We will start doing that next Lottery which will be very soon.

Guys, even with that humidifier in the 10th overnight, I am told that the rH is still 29%. How can that be? We have the humidifier running and a bowl filled with water with a towel hanging out of it for help with the humidity. We have received one reading of 49% or thereabouts and now it's back down to 29 even with all of this adjustment it still reads 29%. I have no clue why this is.
 
Blazin Waffle said:
I'm telling you.
He needs to be closer to 7 than 6 in the soil he's running.
And then they'll add the microbeasties and it will take off
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Yeah I think the sweet spot is 6.5-7.0 for growing in soil. I tend to go for a smaller range as I like 6.5-6.7 based on how the plants react.
 
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