Gardenfaerie Outdoor Organic Summer 2014 Flux and LST in Ground

Nitrogen in its organic form is converted to its inorganic form (NH4+ or NO3-) so that it is available to the plant.

This can be done by fungus and bacteria. This is done through a process known as nitrogen fixation.

Nitrogen fixation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nitrogen can also be fixed by the atmosphere, since N2 is diatomic.

Understanding nitrogen in soils : Nitrogen : Nutrient Management : Agriculture : University of Minnesota Extension

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Hi Gardenfaerie. I agree with you re pH. Outdoors I just went 3 months without checking pH. I finally checked since a couple were yellowing out fans quicker than desired. pH was fine & about the same as 3 months ago. A good N dose and the yellowing slowed. Our pH views are definitely in the minority.

On another post you & Cannafan were talking about soft pots. Check out greenhousemegastore.com. Crazy prices on Root Pouch soft pots. Inside I use 2 gal. & got mid grade (gray) for under a $ each. Outdoors I like Geopots best & use mostly 7 gal., which I get for ~$5 ea.

gardenfaerie said:
I understood every word. I cannot justify or find how it is remotely possible for pH to change in a soil I prepared to withstand the entire life cycle of any plant using every applicable need to provide ample cation and anion exchange, along with nutrients which are not synthetic, thus no ammonia, etc. There are not conditions associated which would cause pH to change that dramatically in soil within a six week period, and actually less because I only transplanted them about 4 weeks ago.

So, back to the drawing board. I haven't noticed any additional twisting or curling over. It's like the leaf is bending in half with the stomata facing the light? Weird. I never saw that before.
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Dennise said:
Is it in 1 strain or in all of the girls. :sorry:..... I'm sure you have already stated all this but I forgot...:straightface:....:circle-of-love:
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The Strawberry Blue has the leaf tips turning up so the bottoms face up on two or three leaf tips. The Money Maker has a few leaflets which look like they are curling inward, but not misshapen so I doubt that is a problem. Is 12 inches far away enough for the lights?

Someone else (so sorry I forgot who) mentioned defol to get better penetration. Fifi, should I do a defol? I actually forgot everything about it. Let me go take a look at a defol tutorial...I even have a bunch of videos lined up in that. You don't have to answer. I'll find out.

It's so damn hot here I can't go outside for more than ten minutes. 100 degrees in the shade. The humidity is very low, but it is still friggin hot. That's August around there parts. If I don't make it out to the store by 9am, that's that. I actually leave earlier so the minute the stores open I am there, in/out and back.

But, but, but, winter is coming!
 
I'm with HEAT too. I get antsy about now because it has been HOT since May, but when the winter comes and it's 60 degrees out, I need a scarf and coat and I'm a big baby. I have the blood of a southerner now. If I move back north I'll have to regenerate my blood to thicken up.
 
GF, I think that perhaps your soil is just a tad too rich for the young plants. Not way too rich, just a bit. That is why you are seeing a little, and only a little, curl on a few plants. I like to put baby plants in baby soil before potting up to stronger stuff around 20-25 days. You may want to try babies in a mixture 1/3 Vortex and 2/3 something nutrient neutral like peat with a bit of extra perlite and mycos for the first three weeks sometime. They will go like gangbusters.

There is no crisis with your plants. Think of it like this: Baby anything does better with baby food

Be cautious of Petri dish soiless growers with close associations to large on-line grow shops. They love to sell soil growers in well buffered mediums and in-range water meters, pH up and down products, etc. It's a very lucrative business!
 
Great circle system, is it running in anywhere now? :circle-of-love:


Relaxed Lester said:
Nitrogen in its organic form is converted to its inorganic form (NH4+ or NO3-) so that it is available to the plant.

This can be done by fungus and bacteria. This is done through a process known as nitrogen fixation.

Nitrogen fixation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nitrogen can also be fixed by the atmosphere, since N2 is diatomic.

Understanding nitrogen in soils : Nitrogen : Nutrient Management : Agriculture : University of Minnesota Extension

800px-Nitrogen_Cycle_svg.png
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Peege, I started these seeds in Jiffy pellets, planted them up into plain Vortex. They remained in 4" pots till they were 3 weeks old, then moved up into the prepared soil as I outlined.

It may be too hot, but there are no signs of burn YET. I hate to jinx myself. I have no taken a look yet this morning. I woke up like a drunk. Stumbling around, dizzy again. FOK, I can't get a string of days together.

I'm more concerned about the outies. They are looking good, but trichome production is not heavy. But, it is only mid-August and the sun is just now much lower in the sky. I can tell by the shadow on the N. side of the house. It is starting to look like fall. My favorite season of all.
 
GF,
I also LOVE fall. The aspens are so pretty. Cool nights around the fire, less visitors to my mountain refuge by day.


I have heard to keep the LEDs 24" above canopy. I think you should try that. I got this information from someone who has experience growing under LEDs.
 
Garden my idea of doing a defol' anymore is if I see an ugly leaf I pinch it off. Now no haters please.... I know this is not the norm and most say not to do this however I am extremely OCD and I don't like ugly leaves as you know so to ease my stress with it I have just been stripping the ladies like pole dancers....:loopy:... In the grow I have going now I haven't done it as hard on the Green xxxxx as I normally do and I haven't done it hardly at all on the Skunk Afghani cause I told b.real I wouldn't but I can't tell ya how hard it has been and I won't lie and say I haven't pinched a single one off cause I just couldn't help myself but with all that nonsense said the proper way is during flower to defol at days 21-25 then again if needed at day 45 of flower and to take only the fan leaves that are blocking bud sites. This is how is was explained to me by King :adore:.... and again as you know if the King said it I believe it and that makes it so.....:yahoo:.....:circle-of-love:
 
GF, does t the LED lamp come with instructions on that? (Ideal Distance from canopy)?
Seems like they would include that maybe.

I bet that's causing the funky twisting.
 
COorganics said:
GF, does t the LED lamp come with instructions on that? (Ideal Distance from canopy)?
Seems like they would include that maybe.

I bet that's causing the funky twisting.
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No paperwork came with the light at all. It was the only thing I didn't like about the purchase. I have two 48*3 Reflectors, so 200 Watts altogether. There is this:

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I offered to re-write all of their English instruction. I didn't really hear back much on it. She just said thank you.

I'm not going to reword it all and edit it if it won't be used. What for? It's understandable, but I did try to say it looked unprofessional...
 
Hi Victoria,
if it's a reflector LED then you have to have both switches on according to the "pamphlet" LOL. Your instructions are exactly what I have, and says for reflector use both switches in flowering. I would say you could either post to SmokeSara's TOPLED thread or just send her a message to verify. I am wanting to be sure on this also.

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Canna, I'm still in veg. I won't switch for at least another month or more. I want the plants to be maximum height for LED penetration and maybe taller because I intend to use CFL side lighting in flower.

I just did an extensive soil and water test. I tested for both high and low pH and the soil clocks in at 6.8. The tap water is 7.4. Rainwater is 6.8. I also tested both waters for NH3/NH+4, negative. Also negative for NO3- as well as NO2- (not sure how to write that out in Arabic nums). I am going to water all three plants using one tablespoon liquid Maxicrop seaweed to one gallon of 6.8pH rainwater.

I don't see where or for what reason I would do any pH adjustment because this is pretty near perfect for just about most plants on the planet with some exceptions.

Now what?

Fifi, thanks for the OCD primer because I have now removed the twisties and far as I'm concerned, saylavee. Watch. I just jinxed myself.
 
Hahahahahahahha, after I finished laughing myself to death, yes. All this for two twisted leaves.

Hey. What?

At least I now know it could not possibly be a pH fluctuation. If it is, I am not seeing it and maybe I need a clinical pathologist to come in and see. LOL. Kidding of course.

I'm so annoyed with my outies that my innies MUST BE PERFECT OR ELSE!
 
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