Spinosad. And don't fool around - kill 'em. They're very adaptable little critters. Treat the entire area on a schedule until they're gone, gone.
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Spinosad. And don't fool around - kill 'em. They're very adaptable little critters. Treat the entire area on a schedule until they're gone, gone.
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Spinosad. And don't fool around - kill 'em. They're very adaptable little critters. Treat the entire area on a schedule until they're gone, gone.
The man knows his whiteflies.
I've had good luck killing almost all of them with any of the usual insecticides. Choose your weapon. Since I use Azatrol, Monterey Rose and Flower, and Capt. Jack's Dead Bug Brew for mites, those are what I've used on the little bastards.
The key word above is almost. Like GT said, they adapt and are prolific. Hit 'em hard. Hit their surroundings. Hit 'em repeatedly until you feel confident you won't see them.
The only un-terrible thing about whiteflies is, they are not as destructive as some other pests. But what they lack in destructive power, they make up for in sheer quantity.
I agree too Major...Gray knows his flies! Man he had soooo many ,,,what a battle it was!
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I can't believe it took me this long to go through this journal. Sweet Mudder of Gawd!
I'm speechless.
Excuse me while I go put on "Over The Hills and Far Away" while cranking it to 11.
I'm speechless.
Excuse me while I go put on "Over The Hills and Far Away" while cranking it to 11.
The man knows his whiteflies.
I've had good luck killing almost all of them with any of the usual insecticides. Choose your weapon. Since I use Azatrol, Monterey Rose and Flower, and Capt. Jack's Dead Bug Brew for mites, those are what I've used on the little bastards.
The key word above is almost. Like GT said, they adapt and are prolific. Hit 'em hard. Hit their surroundings. Hit 'em repeatedly until you feel confident you won't see them.
The only un-terrible thing about whiteflies is, they are not as destructive as some other pests. But what they lack in destructive power, they make up for in sheer quantity.
I agree too Major...Gray knows his flies! Man he had soooo many ,,,what a battle it was!
And I forgot to mention the soil - treat that, too. Sierra Natural Sciences has an herbal based product that is fairly kind to soil biota, so I'd use that in the water and spinosad to spray. I used to like to watch them all struggle as I sprayed spinosad on the top of the soil as they dived for it - that's one of the places they hide.
As a humorous aside ... CareStaker once suggested a bug zapper
We both felt that Ride of the Valkyries would be appropriate while watching the fireworks - jus' give the plant a good shake and step back, heheh.
I don' appreciate the whiteflies much anymore - got all bigoted n stuff about their rights, y'know?
DeanB
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Thanks, I'll go to H.dept and see what they have. They seem to be mostly on my potato plants but also have been invading my outdoor marijuana plants now. I read a shake of the plant followed with the shop vac. Should I get rid of the potato plant? I have no problems with that if the whiteflies will go away.
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I can't wait major. I dig all the outdoor and am so eager to see the gals go nuts!
I made the rounds when I first went looking and the big box stores didn't have much selection. Capt Jack's is well recommended if you can find it. Look for spinosad on labels. Rosemary and clove oil products are also effective.
From online vendors, I used SNS 203 and 209 (rosemary and clove) and a concentrated spinosad from a company called Southern Ag.
Oh, and as long as you treat the potato too, I don' see why you need to dump it. Just don't give them places to hide and wait.
Spinosad is my favorite pest control, but pyrethrin (organic from Chrysanthemums) seems to hit them harder than spinosad.
DeanB
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I have been using rosemary oil without success. I was going to look for Aceite de nim(neem oil)because the natural oils are easier for me to find in mx than the commercial products sold in the big box places. Any other natural oils I should throw at her?
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Look for neem oil products. Around here the big boxes carry them.
For an example, search for "Garden Safe Neem Oil Extract Liquid Concentrate". "Garden Safe" and "Safer" both make neem derivatives. They work for whiteflies, mites, thrips, leaf miners, aphids, bud worms, PM, and many fungi. They are concentrates so are much more economical than the RTU bottles. The active ingredient may be called "azadirachtin". The stuff is also reasonably friendly to honey bees and some other beneficials. Neem can also be used as a soil drench for things like root aphids or whiteflies.
For an example, search for "Garden Safe Neem Oil Extract Liquid Concentrate". "Garden Safe" and "Safer" both make neem derivatives. They work for whiteflies, mites, thrips, leaf miners, aphids, bud worms, PM, and many fungi. They are concentrates so are much more economical than the RTU bottles. The active ingredient may be called "azadirachtin". The stuff is also reasonably friendly to honey bees and some other beneficials. Neem can also be used as a soil drench for things like root aphids or whiteflies.
KingstonRabbi
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I use Neem oil for just about any pest. It works on contact and also systemically through plant. Plus it's nontoxic to humans and pets. Pyrethrin is natural but still toxic to humans and especially children. It will harm beneficial insects and spiders too if you spray them directly, but not once it is absorbed by plant.
I use organic dish soap to emulsify the neem oil in water, otherwise it clogs the sprayer.
I use organic dish soap to emulsify the neem oil in water, otherwise it clogs the sprayer.
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I use slightly warm water when I mix it. It really helps get it to mix with the water. I don't use a "misting" type of sprayer, but it hasn't given me any problems...so far.
DeanB
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Wow, great information. Thanks for the help everyone. I now have a plan .
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4Dutchess
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Since I've never had to deal with them, I'm not sure. I don't know when they hit exactly. I believe the life of the caterpillar phase is only 2-4 weeks so timing is everything. Azamax/Azatrol will work. For frequent spraying, I understand Bt works - probably not as well - but it breaks down quick and is about as safe as anything.
I try not to spray once buds are forming. In fact, I just did my last spray this morning ... I hope. In my case, spraying is becoming a non-option. The plants are too dense to get good coverage of the interior and too tall even from a 6' ladder. I try to keep up my spraying while the moths are out hoping to keep them off the plants = no eggs = no larvae = no caterpillars. After buds are a month old, they are usually too dense for me to want to spray anything on them for fear of mold.
Not much help, I know.
Great help!
The caterpillars here are only at the middle and end of flower. I figured a week to hatch and develop. So I want to start spraying now. I think right now the timing is perfect. Im leary on spraying too close to harvest. Some years theyre really bad and I usually hope the ones I dont get to pick off leave me some. I want to spray this year. Ive noticed the moths must lay their eggs on the tip of the bud because thats where they start. I cant reach the tops or the plants inside either. Im just tired of hoping for the best with these bastards. The Aza Max will be part of the arsenal I throw at the tent so I might as well buy the 32 oz.
My yard grow dosent have any pest problems otherwise. A few Aza Max drenches in the beginning and thats it. But them damn moths are laying their eggs now, I can feel it!!
Namaste!
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Exactly right. They want the best part of the plant for their little ones. They get in there and can't even see them sometimes.
Grrrr... Now I need to go look again. I feel it too!
lazyfish
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What kind of moth are we talking about?
4Dutchess
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I think Id rather fight yellow jackets all summer than 6 weeks of caterpillars. Maybe not!
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