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Yuk!...yellow jackets or hornets...I go WMD on their azz...traumatic experience as a child...I try do the best to not affect bee's as they are a necessity to our survival..those other stinging bassterds probably have their place in the world...just not mine!...lolool...h00k...
 
Bastid Yellow jackets have found their way into my walls. Was in my bathroom heard a buzzing.. pressed my ear against the wall and sure enough... having a fkn party in there! Hate em

Find out where they're getting in and out, and hang 'round that spot with a shop vac. :cheesygrinsmiley: Works great! Ffffooot, fffooot, fffooot - you can hear 'em smack the bend in the hose as they get sucked through. :laugh:

I did that for a half hour each day for a few days, and really thinned that particular hive out! You can catch 'em both coming and going.

Whirrrrrrrrrrr ... fffooot ... fffooot, fffooot ... whirrrrrrrr ... fffooot, fffooot ... whirrrrrrrr :laugh: a very satisfying feeling, too. :slide:
 
While I can see the enjoyment one might experience taking care of yellow jackets with a shop vac, but might I suggest a more conventional suggestion. Being allergic to hornets and yellow jackets, I always keep at least 2 yellow jacket traps in the back yard, they fly in but they never leave. Think of them as your own private "Hotel California"
 
GL,...what ya gonna do bud....:hmmmm:

Find out where they're getting in and out, and hang 'round that spot with a shop vac. :cheesygrinsmiley: Works great! Ffffooot, fffooot, fffooot - you can hear 'em smack the bend in the hose as they get sucked through. :laugh:

I did that for a half hour each day for a few days, and really thinned that particular hive out! You can catch 'em both coming and going.

Whirrrrrrrrrrr ... fffooot ... fffooot, fffooot ... whirrrrrrrr ... fffooot, fffooot ... whirrrrrrrr :laugh: a very satisfying feeling, too. :slide:

While I can see the enjoyment one might experience taking care of yellow jackets with a shop vac, but might I suggest a more conventional suggestion. Being allergic to hornets and yellow jackets, I always keep at least 2 yellow jacket traps in the back yard, they fly in but they never leave. Think of them as your own private "Hotel California"

I've set traps but have access to a shop vac. The suckers are getting through my chimney. I'll beat em dont yas worry ;) between the traps and the CO2 bombs I'll be surprised if they survive ;) .... if they do they have a date with a shop vac :rofl:
 
Oh man! Yellow Jackets... I almost swallowed one about a year ago. I had a beer sitting on a table while I was setting a tent up for a party and one of those little bastards flew inside the neck of the bottle. I went and took a swig and felt something weird in my throat. Thinking it was just a leaf, I almost swallowed it, but felt it move so I spit it out. Needless to say his squirmy, beer covered ass met the bottom of my shoe really quick! LOL

Not sure how to take care of the little bastards, but I hope ya get it sorted Major! Don't want them to ruin the Zen experience that I'm sure your beautiful garden offers
 
GL,...what ya gonna do bud....:hmmmm:
Find out where they're getting in and out, and hang 'round that spot with a shop vac. :cheesygrinsmiley: Works great! Ffffooot, fffooot, fffooot - you can hear 'em smack the bend in the hose as they get sucked through. :laugh:

I did that for a half hour each day for a few days, and really thinned that particular hive out! You can catch 'em both coming and going.

Whirrrrrrrrrrr ... fffooot ... fffooot, fffooot ... whirrrrrrrr ... fffooot, fffooot ... whirrrrrrrr :laugh: a very satisfying feeling, too. :slide:
While I can see the enjoyment one might experience taking care of yellow jackets with a shop vac, but might I suggest a more conventional suggestion. Being allergic to hornets and yellow jackets, I always keep at least 2 yellow jacket traps in the back yard, they fly in but they never leave. Think of them as your own private "Hotel California"
I've set traps but have access to a shop vac. The suckers are getting through my chimney. I'll beat em dont yas worry ;) between the traps and the CO2 bombs I'll be surprised if they survive ;) .... if they do they have a date with a shop vac :rofl:
Oh man! Yellow Jackets... I almost swallowed one about a year ago. I had a beer sitting on a table while I was setting a tent up for a party and one of those little bastards flew inside the neck of the bottle. I went and took a swig and felt something weird in my throat. Thinking it was just a leaf, I almost swallowed it, but felt it move so I spit it out. Needless to say his squirmy, beer covered ass met the bottom of my shoe really quick! LOL

Not sure how to take care of the little bastards, but I hope ya get it sorted Major! Don't want them to ruin the Zen experience that I'm sure your beautiful garden offers

My method is old-school. I know where they live. The burrow they're in is only about 10' from the garden and is a large network of tunnels/openings. I wait until early morning so most are inside. I spray the crap out of an opening (or two) with wasp/hornet spray. Then I use a shovel to bury the entrance. I've done that three days in a row with new entrances each day. I think I've gotten like 90% of them, but it is a huge nest.

I've had these things crawl into a sandwich when we eat outside. By August they are hungry, thirsty, and real A-holes.
I got bit four times last year and we had a friend over for a swim and her young grandson got hit three times all at once. I'm sure they have a place in the scheme of things. Just not here.
 
That is how I did it. I started them under 18/6, but only for one week. I had plants in bloom at the time under 11/13 so I put the seedling in with them until they showed their colors. It took about 6 weeks for them to "flip". They were then immediately put back into veg. That kept them from doing the whole weird re-veg thing with odd leaves. The key is getting this done as quickly as possible.

The flip is 6 weeks? I havent tried it yet but probably will one day. Thanks Major!!

We got something here I call meat bees. I think yellow jackets are different. The meat bees are a hornet not a bee. They bite and sting. They are way were worse in the foothills and mountains than the valley here. Im sure its the same bug you are referring too. I did notice last year one eating a fall caterpillar so they do have a ying to their yang.
 
The flip is 6 weeks? I havent tried it yet but probably will one day. Thanks Major!!

We got something here I call meat bees. I think yellow jackets are different. The meat bees are a hornet not a bee. They bite and sting. They are way were worse in the foothills and mountains than the valley here. Im sure its the same bug you are referring too. I did notice last year one eating a fall caterpillar so they do have a ying to their yang.

The time probably varies with the strain although I did one pure Sativa and one Indica-dominant hybrid. But yeah, it takes a while for a brand new plant to show you its sex.

These are about the size of bees (some bigger), but they are not bees. Some people around here call yellow jackets meat bees too. They usually do bite and they have a toxin in their bite. It hurts immediately, but the real pisser is, once the initial "sting" pain is gone, it itches like crazy for about a week. Whatever you call them, I want to get medieval on the ass.
 
Major, have ya tried those traps you can buy?

We have used them up by the house, but I don't have any in the garden area.
They work pretty well, but I think there are too many unless I buy a boat load of the traps. :high-five:
 
Major, have ya tried those traps you can buy?

Duggan, if I may put in my 2 cents' worth: I lived in Ester, Alaska for 40 years and had to deal with yellow jackets every summer. The interior has weather very favorable to hornets and yellowjackets, and some years we had huge numbers of nests.

We had a number of methods to trap and kill them.

Just as a reference, hornets are black, but not usually aggressive unless they feel threatened. Yellow jackets have yellow and black striped, pointy abdomens and these creatures are voracious hunters and mean as hell.

The purchased traps work well if you bait them with some kind of meat or seafood. In a pinch, this homemade version works very well:

You need a shallow pan or plant saucer, some dish soap, and some kind of meat, cooked or raw.

Fill the pan with water and drop liguid dish soap on the water till you have a soapy film. Place about a tablespoon of the meat in the middle of the pan. Some of the meat must stick above the water to give off an odor.

The wasps will swarm all over that piece of meat, and many of them will get soapy water in their breathing holes along their abdomens, fall into the water, and drown/suffocate. The next day the pan will be FULL of dead wasps. Just empty and reset the trap.

Another method is to wait till dusk, when the wasps return to the nest. Then spray with that petroleum-based spray in the yellow can. Soak the nest. When most of the wasps are dead, you can knock the nest down,place it in a plastic bag, then incinerate it. You have to kill the queen to kill the nest, and she is deep inside, near the top.

For ground nests, pour gasoline in their holes. But don't light it, as you'll start a ground fire, and those are very difficult to extinguish, once they get going underground.

A preventative measure is to kill every young wasp you see, early in Spring, as these are the new queens looking for a place to start a nest. These early queens often find their way into the house and can be seen flying around a window, searching for a crack in the wall to start the nest. At this stage of life they look all shiny and new, and don't have the swollen abdomen full of eggs yet. (I wont get into their life cycle here).

Remember, each young queen you kill is a thousand wasps that never get born.
 
Mmm a slower rate of spread is better than nothing so some thing is working i guess we will found out how she handles straight water for awhile !

Might be nutrients as organic takes a little longer for em to work when compared to the synthetic based stuff which is easy for the plants to uptake, ya hardly ever experience nutrient burn with organics tho.


I remember sitting back in FAQ's some time ago dealing with a plant problem with some random one post wonder type of grower with a single plant out of 4 suffering with a def & after many questions, you know the ones i eventually find out they are all the same strain & every think is just fine.

Apart from this one plant ! so the grower asks me, they are all the same fuzzy why are their not all suffering ?

So i sat back in my favourite chair & lighted up a big one :blunt: to ponder the wonders of growing.


To the point of dribbling over my new t-shirt, ye that was some serious couch lock stuff & headed off to hit the sack to which i awoke the next day with a new thought !

A plant produces many seeds not all are equal in characteristic's from its breeding history as we may see different phenotype's between individual seeds in leaf, bud formation & size some of this may lead onto nutrient tolerance issues.

Or it could be strain sensitive case at the end of the day, we can not all treat them the same !
 
When it comes to genetics, each parent has it's own mix of active genes. In the offspring, with gentic mix from two parents, and several ancestors, the genes get sorted differently into different seeds. (I'm keeping this simple for those without biolgy backgrounds). So, even with a so-called pure strain, You are going to get at least 4 different phenotypes, depending on which genes express themselves in any particular seed.

Each seed will have its own strengths and weakness different from its siblings, and some are mutations which may or may not survive.

That is a very simplified explanation of why each plant from a strain is unique, unless you take clones from a strong mother plant.
 
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