Usually idle hands are the devil's playground, but in your case I'd say you did alright! Those towers are really a sight to see.
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Fudo Myoo
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That’s one reason I didn’t want to supercrop, they’re awfully nice to look at.Usually idle hands are the devil's playground, but in your case I'd say you did alright! Those towers are really a sight to see.
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Fudo Myoo
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Good morning. Well I think I might have over did it. Burned the shxt out of them. Oops, at least I’m trying. 
Lovely shade of green though.
Have a great day!
Lovely shade of green though.
Have a great day!
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It’s hard to see with a phone camera, but the tips are more of a bright rust color than yesterday and the centers of the leaves are greener. I really need to invest in a decent camera.
Some of the best growers say if they don't look like that you're not trying hard enough.
Emilya Green
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The tips yes, but that brown on the edges of the leaves is indicating a potassium deficiency
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Fudo Myoo
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Maybe not enough Terpinator? Locked out?
Emilya Green
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lockouts usually come with other baggage, this looks like a clean call for more K. 2.5ml Terpinator is barely touching them with extra and based on what we are seeing I would raise it to the max recommended. I give about 16 ml/g on mine. Just looking at those gorgeous towers you have going here, it is not hard to imagine that they are hungry for more. Now is the time in the grow where you should really want to feed them well.
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Day 34 of flower
Good morning. Heeding Dr Em’s advice I increased the dosage of Terpinator to 12ml a gallon. I continued their cal-mag drip at 2.5ml and 2.5ml of Recharge for digestion.
@Emilya Green I’m seeing it now. I dug around to clear some bud sites and noticed some lightening in the MP. The Neville’s still seems fine. The hybrids are also getting greener. I’ve excepted that cal-mag will always be needed but I can’t wrap my brain around the K deficiency. There’s a ton in there. I thought cooking it longer would cure the issue. I’m starting to wander if it’s the water. Rev swears this is so with tap water, maybe it’s time to go RO? Bigger pots, less veg time? I’ll re-evaluate my mix but I’m at my wits end. They’re lasting longer every grow though so there’s that.
Clones look great
Have a great day!
Good morning. Heeding Dr Em’s advice I increased the dosage of Terpinator to 12ml a gallon. I continued their cal-mag drip at 2.5ml and 2.5ml of Recharge for digestion.
@Emilya Green I’m seeing it now. I dug around to clear some bud sites and noticed some lightening in the MP. The Neville’s still seems fine. The hybrids are also getting greener. I’ve excepted that cal-mag will always be needed but I can’t wrap my brain around the K deficiency. There’s a ton in there. I thought cooking it longer would cure the issue. I’m starting to wander if it’s the water. Rev swears this is so with tap water, maybe it’s time to go RO? Bigger pots, less veg time? I’ll re-evaluate my mix but I’m at my wits end. They’re lasting longer every grow though so there’s that.
Clones look great
Have a great day!
Emilya Green
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Wait to see what 12ml does... I think your wits still have a ways till they end!Day 34 of flower
Good morning. Heeding Dr Em’s advice I increased the dosage of Terpinator to 12ml a gallon. I continued their cal-mag drip at 2.5ml and 2.5ml of Recharge for digestion.
@Emilya Green I’m seeing it now. I dug around to clear some bud sites and noticed some lightening in the MP. The Neville’s still seems fine. The hybrids are also getting greener. I’ve excepted that cal-mag will always be needed but I can’t wrap my brain around the K deficiency. There’s a ton in there. I thought cooking it longer would cure the issue. I’m starting to wander if it’s the water. Rev swears this is so with tap water, maybe it’s time to go RO? Bigger pots, less veg time? I’ll re-evaluate my mix but I’m at my wits end. They’re lasting longer every grow though so there’s that.
Clones look great
Have a great day!
Emilya Green
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Let me dig into this point just a little...
Keep in mind that creating a soil is always a bit of a compromise. Too much of one element will inhibit the availability of other elements. To put the full amounts of these elements that the plant will ever need into the soil in a way that they can be slowly broken down, takes an extended composting period, but it can be done. Depending on the soil recipe, shortcuts can be taken in the components and the composting time so as to get to a "usable" soil in less time or by needing fewer components. Magnesium is good example in that putting large amounts in the soil at first causes all kinds of uptake problems all through the grow. We have found that it is best to give this element in small constant amounts, such as in our tap water or small doses of a calmag supplement, instead of pre-loading it into the soil. Calcium is another of the macro nutrients that we have found the plant needs so much of, it is better to give it constantly in small amounts, rather than pre-load the soil with so much of it.
Around here we grow one of the most needy plants there is, a fruiting weed. We have superior environments when it comes to feed, water and lighting, so it is natural for a plant that is doing well to have more than the average need for food and water.
You are seeing this in your garden. Your plants are thriving. Those that are thriving the best are the hungriest, and they are going for it, trying to produce the best buds possible given the awesome conditions they find themselves in. They are pushing beyond the normal and are stealing storehouses of nutrient from the leaves to keep things going strongly in the buds. You are seeing the effect of that extra effort, sort of like the sweat on the brow of an athlete, by seeing that tell tale yellowing at the margins of your leaves.
So its not really the fault of anything gone wrong. The soil was cooked enough to get to this point, so no foul there and the nutrients have been good enough to get you to this glorious point... its just that to keep going at this pace the plants now want a little more of just one macro nutrient. You and your soil and your nutrients have done well to this point.
But now you are at mid race. You can keep going with the energy you have used so far, and you will solidly remain in the pack and finish well. If you wish to finish first however, now is the time to dig deep and throw in everything you got. It takes extra effort to excel. Now is the perfect time to feed strongly and give your plants every extra chance they can get to win! Don't look at a bit of leaf reaction as a negative, but instead see the positive in it! You are about to have an amazing harvest! Finish strong! Garden like a Boss!
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Fudo Myoo
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Thanks Em, I’ll go with option number two, I’d rather finish 1st! My mix is darn close to Revs. The ratios might be a little off because I doubled the recipe and I used lobster compost instead of manure but that’s it.
I have a rudimentary understanding of the science behind it. I imagine it like a short order window in a restaurant. There’s only so much room on the serving platter, so the server has to bring out all that will fit, the right course and how much at the right time. Or something like that lol. More research is required before I can say I fully understand it, but I’m close. Thanks again for your awesome explanation.
Emilya Green
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about mid bloom I start throwing everything I can at my plants. They are already getting the microbes and raw nutrients they need in the two week applications of GeoFlora, but in addition I am throwing lots of extra PK in there with Terpinator and my favorite bloom supplement, Sweet Candy, which brings in 0-17-28 along with several different types of carbo sources, 20 amino acids, 70+ vitamins and minerals, isoflavonoids, anthocyanins, polyphenols, tannins and isoterpenes for superior aroma, potency and heavy yields. This stuff also enhances the root zone for optimal beneficial bacteria and fungi growth to help benefit and protect the plants and includes Kelp extract, Fulvic acid and Humic acids!
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Fudo Myoo
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Thanks Em I’ll check it out. As long as I can reuse the soil I’ll try it.
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Fudo Myoo
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@Emilya Green , you haven’t steered me wrong yet, so I went ahead and ordered a small bag. It should be here by next watering.
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Fudo Myoo
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The NPK on the bag is different than the description. Not sure what they’ll send me.@Emilya Green , you haven’t steered me wrong yet, so I went ahead and ordered a small bag. It should be here by next watering.
Red Runner
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Noticed that too.
You mentioned earlier 'Sweet Candy'. I try to research a little myself when such products are mentioned in a solid grow journal and had a hard time looking it up period. Once I did tweak my search enough I got good search results. Then only to find almost ever different listing the NPK was different, even one that had two different values on different parts of the package in the image.
Being qute the newbie myself still, if you wouldn't mind, pointing me at Rev's soil recipe, and/or providing more detail about your soil make up. Thanks.
Also, wanted to take a moment to thank you @Fudo Myoo! I've really enjoyed riding along on your journal here. I really enjoy the detail you provide on how and what you do. And of course all the folks who've posted and helped with solid information along the way, yall rock.
Looking forward to more from ya and the crew =)
Thank you,
RedR
You mentioned earlier 'Sweet Candy'. I try to research a little myself when such products are mentioned in a solid grow journal and had a hard time looking it up period. Once I did tweak my search enough I got good search results. Then only to find almost ever different listing the NPK was different, even one that had two different values on different parts of the package in the image.
Being qute the newbie myself still, if you wouldn't mind, pointing me at Rev's soil recipe, and/or providing more detail about your soil make up. Thanks.
Also, wanted to take a moment to thank you @Fudo Myoo! I've really enjoyed riding along on your journal here. I really enjoy the detail you provide on how and what you do. And of course all the folks who've posted and helped with solid information along the way, yall rock.
Looking forward to more from ya and the crew =)
Thank you,
RedR
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Fudo Myoo
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Thanks RedR I appreciate it. I got my soil recipe from this book. Everything is the same except: added shrimp meal, lobster compost in place of manure, no coir and I add a bit of langbeinite. I think that’s it. I try to keep the NPK values in sync. If you follow his recipe closely, you can’t go wrong really.
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Day 36 of flower
Today’s a water day so I let them have it. On the Sativas I started with 5ml of Terpinator in the 1st gallon then on the 2nd they got another 12ml, 2.5ml cal-mag and 2.5ml of Recharge. The hybrids got 12ml Terpinator in a gallon with the other stuff.
So as far as the Sweet Candy goes, they changed the recipe but kept the bag. Apparently this has been done with their other product Bud Explosion. So they both have similar NPK values so I researched and the little information that I could find leads me to believe Sweet Candy is best for my needs. @Emilya Green If I remember correctly, you’ve used BE in past grows. Would there be any distinct advantage in me using both?
Here’s a pic of the M/P/B2. This represents the worst of the K deficiency. Buds are getting huge and frosty. I had to add some wires to hold them up and I had to use a fan leaf on one because the branch is completely covered.
I added wires to the M/P twin towers to pull them away from the wall.
My indicator leaf is getting a little greeer on the Zkittlez.
Have a great day!
Today’s a water day so I let them have it. On the Sativas I started with 5ml of Terpinator in the 1st gallon then on the 2nd they got another 12ml, 2.5ml cal-mag and 2.5ml of Recharge. The hybrids got 12ml Terpinator in a gallon with the other stuff.
So as far as the Sweet Candy goes, they changed the recipe but kept the bag. Apparently this has been done with their other product Bud Explosion. So they both have similar NPK values so I researched and the little information that I could find leads me to believe Sweet Candy is best for my needs. @Emilya Green If I remember correctly, you’ve used BE in past grows. Would there be any distinct advantage in me using both?
Here’s a pic of the M/P/B2. This represents the worst of the K deficiency. Buds are getting huge and frosty. I had to add some wires to hold them up and I had to use a fan leaf on one because the branch is completely covered.
I added wires to the M/P twin towers to pull them away from the wall.
My indicator leaf is getting a little greeer on the Zkittlez.
Have a great day!
Emilya Green
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No, do NOT use both SC and BE together. BE is for hydro and does not include all the extra carbs and vitamins and extras to build up the soil and the microbes, it is only P and K.
The values on the bags is still trying to catch up with the changes in the formula, where they added P to the mixture. This is one of the reasons that I don't endorse MC or GLN in general... but this one product is what I consider to be their one home run out of everything they produce.