Fresh Harvest Infused Cannabis Oil

[CajunCelt]

Pressure cooker update

PsyCro has adapted this method to use a pressure cooker. It streamlines the process tremendously and apparently presents a more powerful oil than before, which is pretty darned potent, let me tell you.

He starts his discussion of this improvement on the technique on page 11 of his thread and that discussion continues for a page or two. Olive oil extract update



Both of these methods, with or without a pressure cooker, will give you an oil that's much more powerful than you're expecting, even with all of my passion and enthusiasm. Dose thoughtfully.

Let the discussion begin.

I gotta admit, I'm lost. You're doing way more labor than needed over assumptions.
His "pressure cooker" method is called refluxing & has many qualities you should learn or post. Pressure cooker retain water. That's why we use a reflux liner.

I don't understand the water either. Water is your enemy while making oil for many reasons Tim & I went into already. You never want to add water to a cannabis oil mix, no matter what you call it. As far as refluxing, you'll retain a slight bit more cannabinoids, but not enough to go through all that.

And testing, this was the 2nd type of test we did after potency trials.
SWET was indeed very high in cannabinoids, but same terpenes as a QWET & still had smaller cannabinoids than the quick wash.

As for retaining terpenes, they are so volitile that they begin to degrade in minutes after harvesting with no processing. After the process, you're left with little unless you use a subzero charger immediately after chopping. Period. No other way around it.
.......not yet.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Ok so I have a question

The Magic Butter 2 machine. How would it work with the Fresh Harvest Bud and Oil. I have one, not used yet, but dosent it grind up the herb as well
would the water in the fresh flower be an issue?

Was just thinking since Ill be doing some Oils soon

 

[KingstonRabbi]

Thanks for weighing in. It's not what I wanted to hear but it is what I wanted to know. I didn't think there was more THC but I thought for sure there were more terpenes causing the difference in effects I've experienced. But something is definitely different.

It smells different than CCO mixed into EVOO at same strength. And the high is different than either CCO or herb. The White Widow I just processed has a much more sativa high than I've ever had from 3 grows of same clone. It actually keeps me awake. At first it felt stronger, but then I realized it was just hitting me in ways I wasn't used to. Now back to finding out why.

 

[CajunCelt]

Thanks for weighing in. It's not what I wanted to hear but it is what I wanted to know. I didn't think there was more THC but I thought for sure there were more terpenes causing the difference in effects I've experienced. But something is definitely different.

It smells different than CCO mixed into EVOO at same strength. And the high is different than either CCO or herb. The White Widow I just processed has a much more sativa high than I've ever had from 3 grows of same clone. It actually keeps me awake. At first it felt stronger, but then I realized it was just hitting me in ways I wasn't used to. Now back to finding out why.

I'm going to make some & see what's up too. I'll dig out my refluxing bladder.
Let me know how you're goes?

 

[SweetSue]

Ok so I have a question

The Magic Butter 2 machine. How would it work with the Fresh Harvest Bud and Oil. I have one, not used yet, but dosent it grind up the herb as well
would the water in the fresh flower be an issue?

Was just thinking since Ill be doing some Oils soon

Yes it would be a problem. One of our members tried and the decarb is so dynamic that it overflowed and made a tremendous mess.

 

[SweetSue]

I'm going to make some & see what's up too. I'll dig out my refluxing bladder.
Let me know how you're goes?

I'm really interested in hearing your response to what you get. This is much more potent than an infused oil with dried buds. Whatever's going on, it potentiates the THC in a dramatic way.

 

[SweetSue]

I gotta admit, I'm lost. You're doing way more labor than needed over assumptions.
His "pressure cooker" method is called refluxing & has many qualities you should learn or post. Pressure cooker retain water. That's why we use a reflux liner.

I don't understand the water either. Water is your enemy while making oil for many reasons Tim & I went into already. You never want to add water to a cannabis oil mix, no matter what you call it. As far as refluxing, you'll retain a slight bit more cannabinoids, but not enough to go through all that.

And testing, this was the 2nd type of test we did after potency trials.
SWET was indeed very high in cannabinoids, but same terpenes as a QWET & still had smaller cannabinoids than the quick wash.

As for retaining terpenes, they are so volitile that they begin to degrade in minutes after harvesting with no processing. After the process, you're left with little unless you use a subzero charger immediately after chopping. Period. No other way around it.
.......not yet.

We may not understand what's going on, but it's something we all know is worth exploring. An oil this potent was worth the effort, assumptions aside. When you try it you'll understand our excitement.

 

[CajunCelt]

I'm really interested in hearing your response to what you get. This is much more potent than an infused oil with dried buds. Whatever's going on, it potentiates the THC in a dramatic way.

Yes mam. Because your getting a ton a cannabinoids ( forget terpenes) that even scientist are just discovering.

It's the "Synergistic Effect" I've always rambled about.

Our self-grown meds can never be equaled by Big Pharma because ultra processing & isolating compounds like THC, CBD, etc.
Isolation in nature is bad too. The effects: synergistic, organic, etc. can never be known by isolating them.

Whew, damn Durban Poison dabs are making me ramble, uh? Lol.

 

[CajunCelt]

We may not understand what's going on, but it's something we all know is worth exploring. An oil this potent was worth the effort, assumptions aside. When you try it you'll understand our excitement.

Lol. I understand my friend, I do. We'll, let's come up with a good mixture of the quick wash vs. this?

It's just that I was all into refluxing many moons ago. I still remember how f'd up I'd be.
There's a cold (but lengthy) wash that is recycled 3x. The potency is great & other than commercial subzero equipment...it's a great way to retain everything-terpenes, terpenoids, cannabinoids, all.

I've always dangled a 2nd part to the "Biobomb". Very similar to IV absorption. As far as high,?

Buckle up...

 

[SweetSue]

Lol. I understand my friend, I do. We'll, let's come up with a good mixture of the quick wash vs. this?

It's just that I was all into refluxing many moons ago. I still remember how f'd up I'd be.
There's a cold (but lengthy) wash that is recycled 3x. The potency is great & other than commercial subzero equipment...it's a great way to retain everything-terpenes, terpenoids, cannabinoids, all.

I've always dangled a 2nd part to the "Biobomb". Very similar to IV absorption. As far as high,?

Buckle up...

Well, I took your advice and went with organic, Non-GMO EVO.

The buds are almost done drip-drying.

Now it's time to have some old-fashioned fun.

Incidentally, I'm not using the pressure cooker method. I suspect that water doesn't get boiled out entirely and that thought doesn't please me. I'll stick to the original oil bath until we have more verification on the differences. I've adapted to the hovering.

 

[SweetSue]

Another successful batch.

I started with 350 grams, wet, of the CBD Critical Cure 2.2, my largest start yet. That would have been around 2.5 oz from this girl. *sigh of relief that I may finally be catching on*

The apical cola. This was the nicest specimen of CBD CC I've grown to date. I chalk it up to the combination of the lighting upgrades and ripening bananas right next to her during late flower. Those bananas are now a staple in that tent.

The EVO started out as 435.7 ml. Before squeezing and reclaimation procedures......

.....and after. I could probably fight the rest of it out, but I'm pretty beat. I've been working steady since 6:30, including a three mile walk to Lowe's, so I think I'm done in the kitchen for now. I saved the oil-filled plant material off to the side for later processing. Couldn't bring myself to toss it.

I always forget to add lecithin until I get to this point. I mixed in 2 Tablespoons while it was still warm.

Leave no cannabinoid behind.

I'm now a full bottle ahead. This oil has become the base dose for all three of us. It's become my favorite buzz. With the wealth of selection I now have on hand, it's this oil in capsule form that I reach for every morning. That fact still amazes me. I grow Carnival. How can this be? I'll be harvesting a Carnival soon. Most of that plant is destined for fridge drying, but I'll have to make at least a small batch of oil and see how I like those capsules in comparison.

Damn, I've worked hard today. Started off doing the building stairwells this morning and this is the first I've sat down. I think it's time to supplement the buzz from cleanup with something special.... I think some low and slo dried Dark Devil Auto. That's got to be the sweetest and most tasty DDA yet.

Yep, I'm happy.

 

[SweetSue]

Oiler thoughts

So what did I learn from this experience? It recently occurred to me that it would benefit me to stop at the end of a project or a grow and ask myself that question. Too many years in survival mode, I guess. I have no other explaination for having abandoned such a valuable learning tool.

* I need a visual reminder to add lecithin at the proper time, just as the last of the water boils off. I guess it could be added at the start...... there was some reason why I wasn't adding at the start that escapes at the moment. Probably I kept forgetting. I'm not certain it matters when you add it, as long as it gets a chance to do its magical rearranging.

* Not all plants will foam up. I'm wondering if that hasn't been happening because I'm getting better at controlling the temperature of the oil bath. I'm far from mastery, but I no longer get that panicky feeling. Hot oil makes me nervous. I realize it's a reaction to the DDA oil/water mix, and I've taken steps to keep that from happening, but still.... If I could improve any part of the process it'd be get rid of that oil bath. I've accommodated it. The Dutch oven and stock pot are dedicated to the job. I'm thinkin' a shorter stock pot could work just as well and be easier to work with.

* I'm getting better at reading the visual clues to temperature. At one or two points the temperature will spike unpredictably, unless you watch it like a hawk and read the telltale signs. The primary sign is a dramatic and sudden increase in bubbles. I kick the flame off when this happens, and if I catch it at the right time the temperature doesn't exceed 240 F. Watching for clues to cooling I relight the flame and watch more closely.

I'm still learning, but it's getting to be more fun, with less stress. That's what I was waiting for. Practice becoming habit. Today was fun, start to finish.

* I love making infused canna oils. The smell thrills me. It makes my daughter gag. Lol! Chased her back home lickety split. Haha! I even enjoy cleaning up, although by that time I've "cleaned" a few utensils and containers, so this doesn't surprise me.

* Organic, non-GMO, EVO No exceptions. This may have finally be set in my brain. *sigh* It's way cheaper than Everclear, which I can't get anyway, but it ain't cheap.

I didn't hesitate to purchase it. I did look for one on sale.

* It'd be nice to have a bag with a drawstring to drop the plant material into for straining. I'm using squares of silk, which works, but there's plenty room for improvement.

* There's got to be a better way to get the oil and water seperated in the reclaimation process. Either that or I need to learn to skim better. It's not a culinary skill I developed. I bet there's a video or two out there I could watch. I'd like to find a glass measuring cup that lets you pour the water out. I've only come across plastic ones, and I'm not much interested in plastic for this job. I'll promise myself to look around. I haven't looked online.

I could do this every week for a while and be very happy. I could probably make that happen. The cooking down fascinates me. I can't walk away from it for more than a minute, and I'm back watching it transform, mesmerized. I don't think I have a favorite stage, but there is a certain satisfaction when you notice it saying "Alright, I'm oil now."

 

[Arctic Bowl]

Quick question for you Sue, is your immersion blender the 3 speed or 5 speed model? See both on the rain forest site and we want to try this FHO next chop.....3 weeks or so.

Thank you Sue and have an awesome evening

Blessed Buds our friend and be well "48:

 

[SweetSue]

Quick question for you Sue, is your immersion blender the 3 speed or 5 speed model? See both on the rain forest site and we want to try this FHO next chop.....3 weeks or so.

Thank you Sue and have an awesome evening

Blessed Buds our friend and be well.

Why thank you. How timely. I was just reaching for the bong.

I bought mine at Target and it's only a 2-speed. Funny fact, I wasn't aware it was 2-speed when I had the first one, the unit I melted the cord on. Lol! Never read the manual, and well..... I can be a little myopic at times.

Today I cranked it up to the faster speed and it made quick work of the plant material. Be aware to use it in short bursts instead of continuious. Short bursts will keep it from overheating. There's a lot of pushing things around to get it all mashed up proper. The top speed cut my time at least in half.

I'd think the one with three speeds would be sufficient. Five speeds sounds like "easier to break."

 

[Arctic Bowl]

Awesome and thank you again.

 

[Canyon]

Sue, have you tried refrigerating your oil and water combo? That is what I did with the oil batch that I documented. The oil separates from the water and goes solid. Just pop the oil out and toss the water. I tried a second and third separation to get the last drop and decided that they were not worth doing.

Having the batch hot enough to keep the oil thin when you start will help float the oil out of the plant mater.

I never know

 

[CajunCelt]

The oil looks great Sue. Wish you would send it off for testing.

 

[SweetSue]

The oil looks great Sue. Wish you would send it off for testing.

Thank you mon ami. Believe me Cajun, I wish I had that option. I'm working on a back door plan, but it hasn't fallen together yet. I can guarantee that PA isn't going to be opening any testing facilities for growers, since they determined that we don't need to be able to grow our own. That makes testing a challenge.

I love a challenge.

 

[SweetSue]

Sue, have you tried refrigerating your oil and water combo? That is what I did with the oil batch that I documented. The oil separates from the water and goes solid. Just pop the oil out and toss the water. I tried a second and third separation to get the last drop and decided that they were not worth doing.

Having the batch hot enough to keep the oil thin when you start will help float the oil out of the plant mater.

I never know

My dear friend, you really have to stop saying you never know. You obviously know a whole lot.

I'll give that a try right after I catch this buzz. I've been transplanting my ass off and I think I deserve a few moments of celebration. I'll boil some water and work the remaining oil out. There's probably close to 30-40 ml still locked up.

 

[Canyon]

My dear friend, you really have to stop saying you never know. You obviously know a whole lot.

I'll give that a try right after I catch this buzz. I've been transplanting my ass off and I think I deserve a few moments of celebration. I'll boil some water and work the remaining oil out. There's probably close to 30-40 ml still locked up.

Every thing I have going in veggie needed up potting as of two days ago except for two whisky barrels and the DDA. All the small plants have new digs now. There are about six left that need to go into 3.5 or 5 gallon pots. Hopefully I can get at least two finished tonight.

Two bedroom one bath house, no stairs, walk anywhere in town, lots of sunshine, $350-600. [;>)...... Just saying.

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