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My apartment has the deliciously fragrant overlay of Carnival brownie oil. Mmmmmmmm....... I love what we do.
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Pressure cooker update
PsyCro has adapted this method to use a pressure cooker. It streamlines the process tremendously and apparently presents a more powerful oil than before, which is pretty darned potent, let me tell you.
He starts his discussion of this improvement on the technique on page 11 of his thread and that discussion continues for a page or two. Olive oil extract update
Both of these methods, with or without a pressure cooker, will give you an oil that's much more powerful than you're expecting, even with all of my passion and enthusiasm. Dose thoughtfully.
Let the discussion begin.
Oxo good grips, got at mall, Williams Sonoma store. Baster too, it is glass. These where best yet for separating, and the syringe works great for filling little dropper bottles! Side note, the magic bullet X gorilla glue oil(CBD:THC) is being used effectively for 2 human patients and 1 dog now! Pain management and the dog has many issues and is being treated holistically after a few surgeries. The dogs doctor read the oil procees and ingredients and told my friend that this was great. Much better than the hemp seed oil he had been taking. I hope, cause I worry about any down turns thought as my fault. She started him on 1-2 drops x 3-4/day and 1 drop of thc at nite, as that thc really knocked me out (slept). Thanks for all the help
Forgot to add one thought -
Think about it: remember back when we used to make canabutter? We always decarbed first. Doing so in oil is obviously possible, but it is a pita, so why try to find a way when we know how to do it easily? I'm basically lazy, but what I like to call good lazy. I like to do things just once and efficiently.
Now back to the darkside.
That is a great question and I'm eager to hear anyone else's thoughts on this.How would this work with fresh buds? It's easy to decarb dried buds, but if they're "wet" does that change anything? Just a thought...
Thanks for the possible empirical evidence, Bucudinkydow (like the moniker, btw). I love when evidence possibly supports theory. Reminds me of my first physics prof, "Theory is all well and good, but theory ain't gotta practice".
I'll have to find my "Schrodinger's cat is immortal" t-shirt before I head...
Back to the darkside
That is a great question and I'm eager to hear anyone else's thoughts on this.
After thinking about things for the past day, this is what I came up with:
The chemicals we are interested on are contained in the trichomes and are not water soluble, therefore they contain little, if any, water. The water is in the other parts, which do not contain significant amounts of the chemicals that need to be decarbed. Since these areas are physically separated, and literally air gapped, they should not be limited to the temp of boiling water. So when placed whole in the oven a normal, or more probably slightly extended, decarb cycle should work.
Once the oil and cannabis are blended, an emulsion/suspension is created. Part of this can be thought of in the way that vinegar and oil is mixed for salad dressing. But the other part is fine vegetable particulates floating in the oil, much of which even makes it through the straining process. Because this is all pretty evenly distributed, when the oil is heated it well be kept cooled to 212 until a significant amount of the water has been boiled off.
But these are just thought experiments atm, as I have nothing to test with for another 5 weeks or so.
Cheers from the darkside
Regarding separation of the oil and water: Someone suggested and posted the following a while ago, so I won't take credit. These are on my list! (not to scale....)
Hi gang! Haven't posted in awhile...don't go on 420mag much during summer...but found this thread while researching how to make cannabutter. Just finished reading the whole thread and want to say thank you to all who contributed. I think oil might be the route I want to go to cut back on my smoking intake...currently about oz. a week. Tried some vapes..arizer solo(did not like at all) and recently bought a plenty. Like that one but still can't bring myself to make the switch. I really like bongs!
Anyway I am going to give this a try. Sweet Sue did you decide that the IP is way to go? I too hate deep frying food in the house..oil smell stays around too long.
Has anyone tried the low and slow oven method in a Nesco oven? Wouldn't use as much energy or heat up house in summer. What about using an electric deep fryer/soup kettle in place of the stovetop? Just a couple of thoughts. Will continue reading and investigating...have a blueberry kush auto ready in about a month...want to make some of that into oil for a try.
I'm curious - when you say you couldn't stand the smell or taste, was that FHO?I went back to the stove-top method. I couldn't stand the smell or taste of the previous batch done in a pressure cooker. Today I harvested a CBD Critical Cure mand tossed her into the stock pot sitting in the oil bath and went old school.
200 grams of buds and sugar leaves in 250 ml of EVOO, reduced to an indistinguishable mash.
This oil-making process typically takes 30 minutes to get to temperature, and then an additional two hours at around 220-230 degrees F to get complete decarb. Once the water is evaporated you get an immediate spike in temperature inside the pot. What I used to do was lift the pot out of the oil until the temperature dropped, then turn the flame back on and get back to temp.
This time, when I noticed a spike to 270 degrees F I left the stock pot in the overheated oil and stirred like a madwoman to keep the plant material and oil from burning while decarb ramped up dramatically. When temps dropped back down to 230 degrees they stayed there for the most part. As a result the process from flame on to flame off only took 1 hour and 45 minutes. That means it cut 45 minutes out of the process this time.
I was only able to press 150 ml of oil from the mash. That 100 ml of infused oil locked in the plant material will be loaded into capsules and dosed like that. It'll extend the harvest and we might squeek through to the next one.
It was easier when all I had to grow for was getting high. Easier, but not as rewarding.