First Timer - Soil - 600W LED - White Widow & Candy Cane Autos - 2x4x7 Tent

knighthawktfc said:

DAY 50 - (morning) I'm ready for my close ups... and trich check day


Overview:
Temps stable 72-77f; 37%-52% RH. Plants looking happy this morning still - least the upper halves lol.
On the progress front, nothing on miss Cane as usual, about another 1/2" on Mrs.Widow since yesterday, and by my eyes, a little more beef (pistols etc) wise starting to go on with mrs.Widow in her flower areas.

You'll see in the pics a couple more dead or nearly dead leaves on both. I removed 3 off each, 6 total, actually 3 of those had already completely 'offed' themselves (2 on ww 1 one small one on cc from bottom center that was probably buried in there for couple days), I just removed them. As for this deadfall, I think all of it was previously affected leaves, same for most of lower yellow leaves in pics, though I figured after today's feeding I really shouldn't see any new ones after this if nitro was part of the problem. It's hard to say if it's really getting better after 3 days, it doesn't seem to be getting worse though, but can't say it's getting any better that I can tell.


Weighed pots: 12.4\12.2 respective (CC always first unless otherwise mentioned) so they are due for a water-only cycle tonight. HOWEVER... I don't plan on just giving them water tonight, I'm going to give them another dose of 50-60% nutes same as last time, though I may add another 1\1.5ml more of 'bc boost' for ww, and .5ml -1ml for CC over and above what I did last time; Also I'm going to ph solution a pt higher more toward 6.7x-6.85; also will add another 1tbsp of dolo to top soil that will bring me to 50% of what would have been added day 0 - I may then pause with adding more from here on out.
Why feed after feeding last time? I get the sense that I might be underfeeding them at this point, particularly Mrs Widow.

I go back and forth about fully flushing WW with 10-15 gallons before the feeding ... I'm leaning toward no even though I've prepped enough water to do 12-14gal to both followed by 2gal of nutes. Reason leaning toward no is I might burn them a bit with this feeding, and I may want to flush them next cycle, so I may wait for next cycle and just flush them both then. If so that'll sort of put me more on a feed\feed\flush-or-wateronly\ cycle. Which seems to be more in line with what I see some recommend for autos regardless of mfg instructions which as we know following hasn't been exactly working out great in my case. Also my extra "bc bloom" bottle hasn't shown up yet (it might by end of today), I have enough for 2 gallons for regular feed, and maybe 4... but probably not more than that, so sort of want that extra bottle to be on-hand when\if I flushypoo in case I feel the need to use 3 each on the tail end (ww perhaps) instead of just two like last time.


Top\Side Shots:
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Kind of funny the one top on WW who most reaching for light is off too side, makes sense in some ways, not so much in some others, anyway he's the guy who added the 1/2 inch, I've since bent him a little to be
more even, not that it'll stay that way for more than a few hours.

Miss Cane:
Usual:

Same yellow as usual, on her I wouldn't say for sure, but I'm more likely to say on her that things have not spread to 'new' leaves than I am on Mrs. Widow, on her most of everything I see that has fallen or will
soon was all expected based on prior observations.



CC Natural Light:
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I actually had about 3-4 more pics of her in natural light but for some
odd reason they all came out fuzzy, even though I wasn't rushed etc.
Idk what happened.


CC Trichome closeups:

Bottom line on the trichs I'm gonna say 75% clear 20% cloudy and 5% amber-or-camera-screw up such that they look amber when not. Have I mentioned how much I hate these microscopes, these are just a few of
60 pics I took over about an hour... yeah maybe 10 that were clear enough to actually upload, just
can't keep steady enough even when bracing my arm on stuff. I feel like there is some trick I'm missing.

I'm actually surprised, this bad bitch might actually be ready on day ~70 from seed or sooner - as advertised.
It's a good news, bad news sort of thing in my view though, idk if I had to guess atm, I'd be pretty surprised to get 30g dried off her, but we'll see.


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Mrs Widow:
Usual:



WW Natural Light:

Yellow city continues. No trichs check for her, not even worth looking yet.
In fact till a little beefing up last 24hr, I was getting a little worried she wasn't fully
switching to flower mode.
Get the feeling most of those center shoots are going to actually be pointless, if these were
photo period I would have stripped a lot of that stuff and some underneath but I read that's
really not a great idea with most autos...and it's my first grow and all. Who knows though maybe
she will surprise me.


Other - 420mag pic insert popup thingy doing weird things today, not showing me pics that exist in my gallery even though they are there and I can manually insert them. weird...


Sorry about all the pics, I know some of them are kind of pointless, but it was day 50 mark so got a little pic happy. Bla bla bla...That's all till tonights watering report.
:Namaste:
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Your CC looks good. I can't tell of its the camera or what but the buds looks fat lol. In a good way. CKS says CC auto is a fast quick grow. I don't think I'm going to pull a high yield off mine either. I don't remember, did you top your CC?

The WW also looks really good.
 
Juny360 said:
Your CC looks good. I can't tell of its the camera or what but the buds looks fat lol. In a good way. CKS says CC auto is a fast quick grow. I don't think I'm going to pull a high yield off mine either. I don't remember, did you top your CC?

The WW also looks really good.
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Yes I topped Miss Cane between nodes 4\5, probably 3-4 days past when I should have, same with when I started lst'ing her.. couple days later than I probably should have started.

The main 4-6 bud columns are about a standard "bic and half" long and about a bic fat at the moment, I'm surprised at all the growth under the canopy though, not that there will be much weight there, just everywhere I stick my hand under there I run into little bud\popcorn sites. The center of her that I'd wish would 'come up' are maybe 1/2 a bic sites, except for one who seem to wants to grow to be the leader of the center and is about a bic in size.
 
Day 51 - Morning(+overnight) - Up all night, Sleep all day.


Overview:
Temps good 72-79f (tent was open for hours), RH 36-52%. Negative progress due to soil shrinkage, yeah seriously I think my soil settled like 1/4" more during the full-flush on WW so by measurement standards no progress this morning. Otherwise Candy is looking ok, post mini-flush, and WW looks a bit raggad after her 6 hours on the low-light operating (flush) 'table', but she already less droopy than she was at 4am.

So the watering.. yeah well let's get daily pics out of the way first, there are only 3 today, nothings much changed and I was too tired to take more.

Top shot:


Miss Cane:


Mrs Widow:

She already looks better than this hour old photo.

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My bloom arrived last night so I decided to flush the fuck out of WW, I pumped 15 gallons though her, then nutes, I decided CC would get a only a mini-flush\reset feeding.

WW:
-10gal evap tap water @ 6.8ph.
At the end of 10 she was reading 6.5-6.6 and about 180-200ppm (started at 480).

-5gal distilled @ 6.75ph.
From gallon 3 onward she was reading 6.6-6.8, by gallon 4 and 5 she was about as low ppms as she was gonna get, ~45-60 didn't really change.

-Pumped 2.5 gallons (2 was not enough to drive up ppms where I wanted them) distilled nutes slowly 1000ml at a time of 60% nutes in her (70% if you count extras). + 3ml extra 'boost' per gallon, and of course the usual 5ml cal mag instead of 2.5 on the schedule). This was give or take 5ppm (amazing huh) 1050-1055 on the nose each gallon, counting the ph'ing. Ph was 6.69-6.75 on gallon 1, gallon2 + 1/2 was was 6.75-6.81

WW exit report ... basically throw your hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care, because my soil don't give a shit what the nute solution is ph'd at going in, in fact the higher you throw at it, the lower it may exit...wtf? Nute exits on gallon one were 6.3\6.2 range... I could have maybe lived with that, but on second gallon and half they were more 6.1x,6.25 at best. I'm not even gonna bother posting the whole log, I have it though, the aforementioned is the bottom line though.

Oh and by the time I was done exit water was back up to low ~800 ppm range.

Oh and yeah I added another tablespoon of dolomite lime power to the soil as planned before the whole watering started, hoping all the water would help drive it down and around, same for Mrs Cane.

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CC:
After giving her a good look over while dolomite dosing her ass I concluded she was in no where near as bad shape as WW, and only pulled a couple small dead\dying leaves off her, probably I shouldn't really flush her, so instead I decide to just sort of feed her 3 gallons of nothing water and then pump her full of nutes again.
- ~1gallon of evap tap @6.70-6.75ph - exited @ about 6.4-6.6 280ppm
- ~2gallon of distilled @ 6.75-6.81ph - exited @ about 6.6-6.8 220-240ppm (why so low after prior 800+ feeding 3 days ago?)

-Pumped 2.5 gallons (2 was not enough to drive up ppms where I wanted them) distilled nutes slowly 1000ml at a time of 65% nutes in her (75% if you count extras\calmag). + 2ml extra 'boost' per gallon, and of course the usual 5ml cal mag instead of 2.5 on the schedule). Note while she got 1ml less extra boost compared to WW, she got a little extra Awesome Blossoms(2-14-14) 2.1ml vs 1.75 and thrive-alive(1-1-1) 2.0ml vs 1.75 ppms were 1040 on the nose each gallon, counting the ph'ing, basically the same as WW only the solution itself was marginally more Flower-mode friendly. Ph was 6.72-6.75 on gallon 1, gallon2 + 1/2 was was 6.75-6.80

CC exit water... same exact story as Mrs Widow, except that out of the gate more or less her ph was closer to what was going in during the 'clean' gallons, as for the nute exit water it was all 6.24 at best, most of it pretty constant at ~6.15-6.18. One difference\positive maybe - when I was like done-done and about to put her back in the tent, I got some very very tail end out of her, maybe 50-60ml, it tested 6.33 highest I'd seen it on her post feeding.

By the time I was done CC exit water was back up to ~850-880 ppm range, kind of stayed there during the whole last 1/2 gallon, seemed to refuse going higher.

*note on all the nute water ph'ing (ww and cc) after adding everything in specified order the solution is always 5.9x-6.05, so always requires significant 'upping'.



What does all that mean, hell if I know, hell if I really care this second, fully expecting to see some burn tonight, fingers crossed I don't. lol



TLDR: Be-otches got feed healthy dose of food with a little extra 'boost' (3-0-2) than I did 3 days ago, Mrs Widow finally got her full 'post veg' flush, no matter if she truly needed it or not, CC got a semi-flush.

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Other Change:
I removed the grill\shelf thing at the bottom of the tent. While helpful during usual waterings, it was just getting in the way more than it was worth, plus I get ~2" of height back. I have WW and CC on these 1" plastic plant riser things I got from amz while back, and CC's propped up on the syro like before.

I clear taped most of the 'cut' edges of the styrofoam pieces in the tent so I could stop getting tiny pieces of it breaking off and flying around. Also I cleaned the bottom areas of the tent, so much dust\dirt\styro-etc\nute splatter crap was accumulating, kind of funny I could notice the reflective difference the second I did it. Cleaned some crap out of the fan grills\fins, checked a tiny area of the main light to see if it was worth cleaning, really wasn't dirty so I'm gonna delay that for a week or two, but when I do I'll compressed air some of the internal heat-sinks on the KIND light as well. I really do need to clean the pre-filter on my exhaust fan, beotch be semi-yellow from all my cigs, however I didn't do it yet, I did clean the intake one last week, funny enough it wasn't nearly as bad\dirty as I thought it would be, but it did need a washing.

Random:
I got my power bill for late June-late July early last week, Usage was up about 35% from prior month and 29% month-over-month from prior year, bill was like 45% more but that's cause summer rates hit with that billing cycle. It will interesting to see if the NEW AC unit that got put in mid-july makes any dent.. as the old one was basically pulling almost double the power at time...though cutting off more...and I now keep it a degree or so colder with the new one so maybe all a wash in the end. LOL Not that critical or anything just something I want to remind myself to check when Aug bill comes.


I'm off to perform one of favorite activities, eating myself to sleep. ;)
 
Day 51 - (Morning) Getting sticky with it.


Overview: Temps odd last 24hr 68-79; RH 36-53%. So I mistakenly left ac\dry function (ie lights out settings) on all last night as it was a rare night I forgot I had plants to peep on. Anyway that meant it was kept warmer than usual in some ways since when 'dry' is on blower doesn't click on unless lower temp of 71 was triggered (72 is normal setting, I put it on 71 when they sleep to help trigger 'dry' more often), you'd think they'd end up cooler but in general doesn't usually work out that way since the shots of colder air happen less often. Bla bla bla net result was plants were bit warmer and drier than usual for 12hr... not that they seemed to care.

Progress - Well WW grew roughly another full inch in height, actually there is one side shoot that's actually 1/2" higher than the rest at 19", but the rest are around 18.5". Call me crazy but I see far more pistols on Mrs.Widow in the last 36hr than in prior days. As for Miss Cane, she doing her usual nothing burger on growth, if she was waiting to stretch I think that time has completely passed and lord knows she's been way farther from the light than Mrs.Widow. Anyway we'll call it 11.5" cc and 18.5" ww for now.

Deadfall - 6 on Miss Cane today, though I have to say 5 of those were 100% expected, ie leaves that were long going 'yellow' days ago. 2 on Mrs. Widow, 1 fully expected, 1 small one that was not...but was buried in the center stalk area, I think I might have broken\dislodged that one during the flushing as it was kinda young and in good health minus being dislodged and drying up of course. There is one more on CC I expect to remove tomorrow, after that anything that comes is definitely unexpected. As for WW there are dozen more that have problems and will I expect eventually die off soon, I'm just not removing them till they actually are 90-100% dead.

Health
- Candy though otherwise seems ok today, I'm not seeing any glaring signs of 'new' nute burn, some of the fried tips you might see in the picks was from the past, and not seeing any of that on what I know is newer growth in last say 10 days in and around bud sites. Some of her older bigger fan at the bottom seem fine,ones right next to ones that have died so that's weird, but whatevaaah.

-Mrs.Widow on the other hand... well what can I say, sick as she might have been or is.. still adding height, adding pistols, and hairs, so idk wtf to make of it. Hopefully the damage I see is just all prior damage injected prior to last two watering sessions with the added couple ml of the 'boost' that has the most nitro in it. I'd like to say it's not spreading farther anymore, but it's too early to tell, and if I was forced to say anything I'd say looking down from top\center she looks just as 'going yellow' as couple days ago, and it's bit of a different look than when mag issue appeared as that stood out more, that said seems to me those leaves most effected by that problem 2 weeks ago seem to be the most problematic looking so again maybe it's just the prior damage done (I know 90% of time leaves don't recover) playing itself out to conclusion.


Ok on to the porn...

Top\Side Shots:


Miss Cane:

On some of the buds, no that's not webbing... that random hairs...now you know why I
cleaned up a bit yesterday. This bitch is now sticky everywhere, I've said that before but
that was like when handling anything near buds, now doesn't mater pretty much where I
touch her. Seems to have taken the 1000ppm feeding without any clear new issues... YET.



Mrs. Widow:

Last 2-3 days she really seems to be switching into full on flower mode if you ask me. Bud sites
starting to look like that instead of just a collection of pistols. So far seems to have taken
the 1050ppm mix without burning, and while I doubt it would entirely show up yet I don't
think there is any early signs of nitro tox from the 1ml more of 'boost' over last feeding (3ml more that 'even' that schedule calls for with 'bloom'), well see though, more concerned with yellow than I am of tox.

95% of that problematic bottom areas looked exactly the same yesterday and day before so that's nothing particularly new, and while I don't really see 'new' leaves going yellow, all those that had a touch of that
already don't seem to be getting any better ie...they seem intent on their path to death.



Other:

So I removed most of Candy's LST restraints today, she's done really growing in my view and they were just getting in the way more than doing anything. Actually I had removed a couple off her during watering, ones that not doing anything but just getting wet, couple more today, I've left only 2 or 3 that I think are still sort of help ever so slighting with all the crowding in the middle. Sounds fked up but I wish I could remove like 2 bud sites in the middle\center and just make some room for all the others to fatten up\grow more. Also I did a good 30minute inspection of all the bud sights and stems and stuff just looking for anything out of place or bugs or sudden balls or nanners etc.

WW got 2-3 more of her LST lashing removed as well, and while not as extensive as CC I did an overall eyeballing of her major parts. I finally removed the lashing that was around the base of her stem as well,
frankly that wire was worryingly tight\semi embedded into her like she was about to grow over it lol, frankly
given I never truly "bent" this bitch entirely over I'm not sure I ever should have bothered with that one.

WW got a slight droop this morning on tippy tops, not sure what that's about, checking heights and stuff she still in 26"'ish range she likes so idk.. maybe move the lights up 1/2" tonight if still around (and at same time put some more styro under CC to get her closer). Frankly it was kind of weird she didn't look that way when I opened the tent, only noticed it an hour later. Maybe she didn't like
me moving her around etc.

Considering swapping in my taller oscillating fan into the room now that the grate is gone it probably can fit, either to replace the small one on the left, or put it on the right back corner and remove the clip on back there.




Parting thoughts - I really should have got the 4x4 version of the tent (or found a 3x4'), trying to manage 2 in this 2x4' is problematic to say the least. They both sort of starting to grow into the walls, not quite yet, but close enough that I gotta be very careful opening\closing tent and how I have them rotated as to not touch each other or the walls. An extra 6" on each side of these girls would really make life much easier, esp considering equipment inside tent. When I even consider thinking about round-2, I'm now thinking about maybe just 1 monster, cause my girls aren't even that big (thank god in a way) and they barely fit.

Jesus I wrote another book today.... that is all for now.
 
DAY 53 - (Morning) Steady she blows.


Overview: temps stable range 68-77; RH 37-53%, on cooler side, been running the ac\room about degree cooler more often last 24hr. Thinking about around this weekend or monday kicking up the exhaust a notch, figure WW will be probably been done with her stretch by then and I attempt more a 35-45 range as she starts focusing more on flowers, been trying to hedge lately given CC seems so far ahead of her. On the progress front, WW added another 1/2" more or less all around, so that's ~19" on the 5-6 top most ones + 19.5 on the pack leader, and about 18.5 on some of the followers.

I did not move the lights up last night, decided to just leaves them as plants still looked pretty happy after lights on. A few hours after that I did throw another coffee can under Miss Cane's moving fan that raised it about 4-5", and put another inch of styro under CC to raise her up more... I still want to raise her up even more, probably run to the store today and look around for maybe small crate type thing, and also don't want to edge her up too fast...but she's still like 28" (or more) away from main light at present.

I did not weigh them this morning, but I did a "lift test", felt like 12.x (closer to 13 probably on cc), ie while they normally would be ready tonight at lights on for water, they felt bit heavier than they do on mornings of day-3 from last water. Some of that is they got the watering later in the night last time, and they got a sh1t load of it... so I'll actually pull them out after lights on tonight and check weight, if high 12's I may leave them till tomorrow night, if low 12's I maybe just give them a couple hours and water around midnight. Give they got feed nutes the last two times today\next will just be water-calmag ... and a little molasses if it arrives by tonight; my gut actually tells me to feed them yet again, but I'll follow my new feed\feed\just-water idea for now.


Just a few pics, today, really just for the record.

Top Shot:


Miss Cane:

I didn't use my taller fan yet because it actually is wider base, and while I have the clearance,
it puts the strong breeze 1" closer to the plant...nearly right up on it. Also because 1/2
it's air would be blown at pot belly and not leaves, and while I could jack it up it's
less steady being propped up than the small one at the moment. eh.. I
may rearrange the entire fan situation down the road but for now... leaving things
mostly how they are - give or take height tweaks.


Mrs.Widow:



That's all for today, short and sweet, well, at least shorter.
 

Day 54 (Morning) - Watering day.


Overview: Temps 72-79f, RH 36-52% last 24hr. Progress..eh nothing of note CC 11.5"; bit on WW, 19.5" more even now, ie others caught up to leader over last 24hr. WW Droopy this morning of the I want water kind, CC not so much surprisingly.

Weighed pots last night as planned, they were not ready 2h after lights on, did again this morning, they were 12 even on both, so watered, decided not to do it in the tent but to pull them out to the bathroom, get some incandescent light photos while at it.

After watering raised lights an ~inch, also raised CC inch with more styro.. didn't make it store yesterday to find better option.


Top Shot:
No top shot today... totally forgot.


Miss Cane:

I didn't even mean to remove these two leaves but they basically popped right off while
I was digging around applying dolomite lime, so be it, they were gonna come off in a day
or two anyway. They are though the last of the shitty looking leaves on Candy Cane. Ok
so that's not entirely true, there are two more 'light green' ones I noticed but they look
like they light green cause not getting any light where they are...idk. Otherwise girl
looks pretty good to me in natural light, new growth pretty dark looking to me not that I
think you can really tell in pics.



Mrs. Widow:

After the main pics I removed most of the deadfall, plucked most of the leaves that were
on their way out. I could have left a couple of those on, but frankly removing them makes
it easier to tell from here on out if sh1ts still going haywire, which I kind of think it still is.
Sucks but while watering WW I noticed in the tray water I knocked a ton of hairs off her, fml.

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Water report:
Both got gallon of distilled + 5ml magical + 2ml sugardaddy (comparing make up of it and molassis they seem the similar mag+sulfer).
PPM of mix is about ~280 ph'd.
Both got 1 tablespoon Dolomite lime powder again on top soil. This is now about 6tbsp total since started now, and last dose.

Very interesting results.

CC:
ppm in 280; ph in 6.70-6.75
Only one real wave out:
sample cup: ppm 450 / ph 6.80
sample cup: ppm 485 / ph 6.84
sample cup: ppm 505 / ph 6.69
Sample tray: ppm 445 / ph 6.89
sample cup: ppm 440 / ph 6.72

Total out: ~600ml (~16%)

WOAH!

WW:
ppm in 280 ph in 6.73-6.80
Only one real wave out:
sample cup: ppm 480 / ph 6.73
sample cup: ppm 465 / ph 6.79
sample cup: ppm 505 / ph 6.83
sample cup: ppm 490 / ph 6.81
Sample tray: ppm 481 / ph 6.97

WOAH!
Total out: ~400ml (~10%)
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If you been following along last couple waters you probably saying what I said...woah..WTF? lol

So either low\no-nutes = ph out basically equal in...(we saw that with most of flush water) or the dolomite is\has finally started kicking in big time, or a little bit of both. I'm done adding dolomite, I was not planning to add anymore anyway, but after getting these results today wish I actually didn't add today's dose. Who knows though what the next water cycle will bring, probably be back to 6.7 in and 6.1 out knowing my luck, lol but next round I'll definitely go more toward 6.6-6.7 in instead of 6.7-6.8 in like today and see what happens.

Anyway I was happy to see these results, actually only partially I would have preferred not to have seen basically 7.0 in the tray, still though I'd rather see sh1t in the 6.6-6.9 range then 6.0-6.3 range, assuming most of those charts I see are accurate about element absorption for soil ranges.

I was not surprised that exit water ppms were about even, I was hoping I would finally see that since their input last water was about even as it was also this time, I am surprised exit is about 1/2 of the input last go around, that said I guess has something to do with putting 275 in...it mixing around and coming out..a little diluted from what soil probably is, plus them eating haha.

I notice WW liked to take most of gallon, usually around 6-700out for 1 gallon, this time more like 400. CC seems sort of unchanged, usually about 700 out, 600 out this time, calling that mostly a wash for her. That said last 2 times they were in 11.x weight range this time ~12.0, so I guess they are drinking a little more, and WW clearly has more\longer stuff to feed so not surprised.


Other
- I'll be doing another scope Tri-check at some point this weekend on Miss Cane. Not that I think she's getting ready but I don't want that sneaking up on me either. I think she's probably got another (feed\feed\water) water cycle still to go before I have to consider starting to just water-only her, I'm thinking around day 63-65 probably have to start that...but gotta check cause all the kids say it's all about the tri's and not the day count. ;)

TLDR: I watered today, the results seemed better than usual.
 
Very nice, good job....️
 
Day 55 - Morning - Nothing really to report.


Overview: Temps 70-79f; RH 36-53% last 24hr. No progress of note on either plant height or meat wise, though they both look reasonably happy last night and this morning. Not that surprising as more often than not they don't do much the first 24hr after watering.
That said I do see some more tip burn on ww, and bit on cc, not excessive yet but maybe feed\feed\water wasn't that good an idea after all, that or need to dial things back to 50% from 65ish%. hmm. Thought it might be the lights too since on ww I see slight tip curl up toward light on higher half of her too..

Raised main light 1/3rd" to be even 56" from bottom of tent, about 26.x" above tip tops, and 27-28" from rest, so minor probably will not matter, only got 5" or so inches left before raising more becomes problematic on the main. Re-arranged power strip such that raising ww side front is not a problem for now, and moved it up about 2" as well as the other one another 1"(it was already a tad higher than front). On CC side lights I bumped them up an inch, not cause of growth but more cause of the extra inch of propping I added under her yesterday and some of the angles were such that it was 25" to some of the plant, that said I may actually move then back down 1" in day or two, just want to test something.


Just a few porn shots today. Tomorrow I'll probably go more pic crazy with the scope.

Top\Side Shots:


Miss Cane:

You can't really see the newer tip burn here, most of what you see in these is old burn.
I eyeballed her main colas for nanners, not that I'm confident I could id one if I saw it, or if it's even
at the stage I should be looking daily for these things, but I gave her the once-over while trying
to tuck a couple leaves.


Mrs.Widow:

That last one I snapped for the single random bud at the bottom of the plant. I think it's
the only one on Mrs. Widow like that. IDK wtf that one is about, I guess side lights on
certain rotations area indeed getting down in there. I'm expecting popcorn city on this bitch.

I plucked 4 90% yellow leaves from her, 2 from bottom sides(larger), and 2 from center\lower-midway area (smaller in size),
no pics of it, though one of them was probably the far right one on pic 3 here.


That's all I got for today.
 
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Day 56 (morning) - Tri check and Widow's continued demise.


Overview:
Temps 70-77f; RH 36-51% last 24hr. Progress, zero observed on either in any way. Widow looking even more burnt today than yesterday, yellow continues to spread, that said it's now a different type of yellowing that week+ ago, now it's more outside inward than inside outward. Just lovely. I'm guessing I nute burned Mrs.Widow while trying to address the first yellowing issue. sigh. I suspected that was going to happen.
CC doesn't show nearly the same reaction however.

I removed the small oscillating fan after daily pics, and replace it with the taller one I have, found a way to sort of make it work and still be a little less force full on CC, cause CC fan side was getting light wind burn, over all though it moves more air.

I took a plethora of photos today, along with 108 of CC close up with the scope, of which maybe 5 were clear, and 15 or so were usable, I'm posting the semi usable ones, you can check out more in my gallery.


First the usual..

Top shot:



Miss Cane:


Last two are undergrowth.



Mrs. Widow

Yeah...all kinds of f'd up, but I ended with more the positive ones..lol
Guess it's mostly just water and cal-mag again for her next time she's dry, idk what she wants
really at this point. Feed her more nitro into existing mix to counter yellowing and she burns... yet grows for two-three days following it, feed her just water after that and burn shows up more.., yet if don't feed her enough she yellows out. clearly something is still out of whack.


Miss Cane trichomes check:
I can't tell you how frustrating and time consuming this process is for me, idk how people do this, they must have much steadier hands than I, fking hour just to get maybe 15 usable photos to look at, and lord only knows how many leaves I bumped in the process. You may have to click these to get better resolution.




What do those pics say...idk I can barely tell, some leaves seem like 50% cloudy to me,
others 25%, others don't even all have heads really yet (or I knocked them off). Pretty sure
though in looking around I didn't spot any legit amber looking ones... couple looked that way
but I think it was lighting with red hairs creating illusion sort of see that in final pic.

Anyone think I'm way off in that 25-50% assessment? Keep in mind most (though not every pic),
was from higher side of the top most colas.
 
Miss can is looking very tasty. ..️
 
Looks good, Knight! Good trich pictures, seems like you have a few weeks to go. The trichs seem clear, and new pistils are coming in. They can ripen quick, keep watching :)
 
Day 57 (morning) - Week 9 - Bone Dry Time for water.


Overview:
Temps 70-77 (but spot checking leaf tops with laser I saw some 80's on WW and only ww, so my air flow changed a bit for the worse it seems with the fan change(s) ), 34-51%RH. Weighed the pots this morning (I meant to do this last night but FORGOT I had plants for a night), cc=10.9lbs and ww=11.2lbs eek, they dry as fk, I knew they would be but I was expecting mid 11.x. Progress - well somehow WW woke up in last 24hr and added 1/2" on the leader and little less elsewhere so we'll call it 20" even not counting leader of to side, CC nothing but it's not like I'm expecting anything out of cc other then fatness at this point and maybe a little action in the center of her.

So I watered them this morning, and even though I think I burned them a little last round I went with nutes as per my feed\feed\water theory here on out.
So last 4 has been feed\flush-feed\water\feed (counting today), however for WW I backed off the ppms slightly and adjusted the makeup of the mix slightly. Details below in my water report...which frankly was good... this is now back-to back times where I feel good with exit water samples.

Today we have bathroom lighting shots of the girls. I could feed them in the tent...but since I'm not using the trellis I have, it's frankly just easier, cleaner, and I find faster to just yank them out of the tent.

Top Shots:

Even on low that fan is kicking CC's ass a little... so was the other one
so it's not really a change. I could consider just not using it, but paranoid
with CC denseness and RH still hitting low 50's during lights out. I'll take
some minor wind burn over mold any day... or that's my thinking.
I got a small votext fan I have thought about just sticking on the floor
and blowing upward though... doesn't oscillate though, and I kind of
prefer something in there (at least one) moving back and forth. I'm
probably over thinking all this fan shit though. lol
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Miss Cane:

The more I look at her the more I think I'll be lucky to get a oz off her dry.
But who knows she might surprise me, 8 mains + small center stuff
and some side\under growth spots.


Mrs. Widow:

Another day another set of leaves to clean up, I plucked 3-4 of those, the rest fell on their own.
The bic-shot is Mrs.Leader, she's like 21".. IDK what's up with that, I've tried keeping her
on the side (where I might expect some stretch, and also in the middle under mains (where I would
expect less....she seems to grows the same no matter where she is under the lights).


Ok... so onto the watering.

---water report ---
Thought about adding the molasses I now have... decided against it... things seem ok with CC why fk with it, and more reading said 90% of the benefits are for organic soil, and even if I do try it, save it for water-only day.

CC:
Amount and mix: 1 gallon distilled with ~65% nutes. 9ml bc boost, 8ml bc bloom, 2ml Awe.blossoms,2ml thrive-alive-red, 4.75ml magi-cal (syringe had little air pocket in it...so i just went with it),7ml Sugar Daddy.
PH: Solution was 6.06, ph-upped it to 6.6x (both meters agreed)
PPM (post ph): 1030 ~about the same as last feeding, marginally little less.
Feed in for 4 waves of about 900ml, first slow and waited 10min, then 5 or so between next waves.

Wave 3 exit samples:
cup1 PPM:1020 PH: 6.85
cup2 PPM:1060 PH: 6.89
cup3 PPM:989 PH: 6.79
cup4 PPM:993 PH: 6.81
Tray PPM: 1030 PH: 6.84
Wave 4 exit samples:
cup1 PPM:1030 PH: 6.81
cup2 PPM:991 PH: 6.73
cup3 PPM:1020 PH: 6.71
cup4 PPM:1010 PH: 6.76
Tray PPM:1030 PH: 6.81

water totals: in ~3700; out:550ml (~15%)

WW:
So I said yesterday maybe I would just give her just water again... fk that, I lied.

Amount and mix: 1 gallon distilled with ~50% nutes. 10ml bc boost, 7ml bc bloom, 1.25ml Awe.blossoms,1.25ml thrive-alive-red, 5.0ml magi-cal,6.5ml Sugar Daddy.
PH: Solution was 5.9, ph-upped it to 6.6x (both meters agreed)
PPM (post ph): 940 ~ about 100-110 less than last feeding.
Feed in for 4 waves of about 900ml, first slow and waited 10min, then 5 or so between next waves.

Wave 3 exit samples:
cup1 PPM:980 PH: 6.83
cup2 PPM:935 PH: 6.64
cup3 PPM:950 PH: 6.75
Tray PPM:960 PH: 6.61
Wave 4 exit samples:
cup1 PPM:929 PH: 6.66
cup2 PPM:945 PH: 6.78
cup3 PPM:940 PH: 6.71
cup4 PPM:952 PH: 6.69
Tray PPM:948 PH: 6.73
water totals: in ~3700; out:500ml(hair over it) (~14%)

--- end water report--


Yeah... now that's what I'm talking about!
Ok so tiny bit worried CC is bit higher than I truly want, but.. I'll take high 6's over low 6's any day of the week and twice on sunday given the past, besides I can probably start feeding her 6.5x in now and be good instead of compensating with higher-in water.
WW seem is actually exactly where I want her finally 6.6-6.7. I'm fucking ecstatic... I shouldn't be cause that's when things go wrong for me, every single time without fail. But come on, this is back to back waterings, one with mostly water and now one with nutes that actually have produced consistent readings, for both plants, both times, under both nute conditions, AND they're both consistently above 6.4 and below 7.
That's never happened so I'm really happy about that.

Now you're probably thinking I probably just made WW nute burn worse by feeding her...even if it was slightly less, yeah maybe....probably lol, but I had to find out what the nute-water 6.6-in would produce.. would it be back to 6.0-6.2 or would it be like it was with mostly water and finally be consistent.
The only good news about that burn is... hey I know she's actually eating everything now, come to think of it that's may be why she's burning a little. I still find it strange the plant that is twice as big as the other wants less PPM, strain this, strain that, still seems really odd.

Oh I raise the main light again 2clicks..whatever that is, usually about 1/2", because WW grew a little.
I actually moved CC's sides back down an inch or so... remember I said I was gonna do that.. they still 26+ from any leaves, and main is ~29" from her main colas... probably need to do some more propping up of CC, but I'll let them enjoy their water for today\tonight before touching anything more.

All I can guess is dolomite lime has finally worked its way more throughout the soil, and more consistently since I don't have random cups being way higher or lower than others, and it's finally doing it's job. I assume over time I'll end up washing some of it out and it may drop a little but that actually shouldn't be a problem given it seems the soil is now around 6.8x in Miss Cane and 6.7x in Mrs.Widow's... a little drop wouldn't be bad actually on CC as I worry a tad it's more like 6.9.

That is all the blabbering I have for today. :Namaste:
 
Very nice journal I hope when I start my first in a couple weeks that I can be half as organized and thorough.
 
Day 58 (Morning) - Lightgreen monster out in force.


Overview:
Temps 70-77f 34-52%RH last 24hr. No progress on either plant noticed or measured.
Swapped "24w"..14 from wall front left side light bulb for "36w" 18 from wall version... both have 12 led's but the one I swapped in are 3watters vs 2, and has 1 more red then there other. This is the same one I have
as #5 hanging down in the left-back area for CC.

I'm seeing pretty distinct light greening of like 1/2 the plant again this morning, if I go much higher on nitro additive and I'll basically be feeding it at veg level on that. I mean this was sort of already there but it seems to stand out to me today far more than prior days.

Top shot:



Miss Cane:


Mrs Widow:

Does she really want thaaat much more nitrogen?
 
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