First Grow In Over 20 Years! Northern Lights Under 600W LED

[Homer Simpson]

I think they we're selling it at half price for the large bag, so when I compared it to the smaller bag price it made absolutely no sense, and bought the bigger one. Mine is the old stuff, v1.
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When I bought this on Amazon.ca I thought it was a good price because but it thought I was ordering the same amount as I bought from the company directly but that was 900 grams and this was only 300 grams so it was actually a lot more. I figure you ordered 33 times as much as me but only paid 4 times as much so I paid about 8.25 times as much as you. That is crazy they sell it at such a disparity; in future, I will shop around more. Bastards....

 

[Homer Simpson]

Hi, just a flyby

Hi Birdie, thanks for the flyby!!! Always a treat to hear from you!!

 

[Homer Simpson]

If it is true that we learn more from our failures than our successes then today I learned a lot about squeezing rosin or more specifically how not to do it.

I figured a critical part was my temps so I was going to heat my warming plates and then check my temperatures with my handheld infrared thermometer so of course today is the day it decided to not work. One of the wires going to the battery terminal and detached so I soldered it back up and it still wouldn’t work so I had no idea what my temps really were and I think that is my big problem.

Anyways I squeezed the thing with all of the 50 tons I had and got enough rosin for probably one good toke out of 7 g so I believe I am falling a little short of potential. On the bright side I did get an early start on my garage spring cleanup. The fact that stupid thing decided to break today was really annoying because I’m not really sure if temps were my problem but I assume so. I squeezed the thing so much my 7 g came out to be .050” but the bag actually didn’t split with all that pressure. Maybe not being hot enough it didn’t flatten as much as it could have. Anyway here are some pics of the failure.

Here is my two 7 gram packs of Northern Lights but after the first failure I didn't squeeze the second.

There is the detached wire on my infrared thermometer and of my useless repair.

There are the plates heating up to the same temp I decarb at.

There i am giving her the full 50 tons.

And there is all the rosin I got.

I soaked the 1" plates I squeezed with for over an hour at 230F so I thought they would be heated all the way through and hold enough heat to get at least one good squeeze done but from my failure, I get the feeling they lose heat too quickly and this method is not going to work. I may try it again once I get my thermometer working but I don't think it is a workable method. It was nice to get back out in the garage this season; go spring!!!

 

[MrSauga]

I give you an 'A' for effort Homer. Nice try, and good luck with the next attempt

 

[Dutchman1990]

If it is true that we learn more from our failures than our successes then today I learned a lot about squeezing rosin or more specifically how not to do it.

I figured a critical part was my temps so I was going to heat my warming plates and then check my temperatures with my handheld infrared thermometer so of course today is the day it decided to not work. One of the wires going to the battery terminal and detached so I soldered it back up and it still wouldn’t work so I had no idea what my temps really were and I think that is my big problem.

Anyways I squeezed the thing with all of the 50 tons I had and got enough rosin for probably one good toke out of 7 g so I believe I am falling a little short of potential. On the bright side I did get an early start on my garage spring cleanup. The fact that stupid thing decided to break today was really annoying because I’m not really sure if temps were my problem but I assume so. I squeezed the thing so much my 7 g came out to be .050” but the bag actually didn’t split with all that pressure. Maybe not being hot enough it didn’t flatten as much as it could have. Anyway here are some pics of the failure.

Here is my two 7 gram packs of Northern Lights but after the first failure I didn't squeeze the second.

There is the detached wire on my infrared thermometer and of my useless repair.

There are the plates heating up to the same temp I decarb at.

There i am giving her the full 50 tons.

And there is all the rosin I got.

I soaked the 1" plates I squeezed with for over an hour at 230F so I thought they would be heated all the way through and hold enough heat to get at least one good squeeze done but from my failure, I get the feeling they lose heat too quickly and this method is not going to work. I may try it again once I get my thermometer working but I don't think it is a workable method. It was nice to get back out in the garage this season; go spring!!!

Sorry to hear about the unsuccessful press Homer. I’m positive it was your heat! You definitely had enough pressure but heat stability and consistency is critical when it comes to rosin pressing. A higher temp is a quicker press and nOt knowing where your plates are you can’t know if you should press for a minute or 3!

Keep trying though I’m sure you will figure it out!

 

[Homer Simpson]

I give you an 'A' for effort Homer. Nice try, and good luck with the next attempt

Hey, thanks Sauga. I tried to fix my infrared thermometer tonight and it didn't work out so I think I will put the pressing on the back burner for the time being. I don't want to buy one but really need it till I can come up with another idea.

Sorry to hear about the unsuccessful press Homer. I’m positive it was your heat! You definitely had enough pressure but heat stability and consistency is critical when it comes to rosin pressing. A higher temp is a quicker press and not knowing where your plates are you can’t know if you should press for a minute or 3!

Keep trying though I’m sure you will figure it out!

I have a lot of failures but fortunately, most aren't so public, lol. And yes I totally agree that it is the heat and I would start experimenting with heating but my darn temp gun gives out right when I need it. I'll just have to continue to live vicariously through you for the time being!! I am going to mull things over for a while.

 

[Homer Simpson]

I have collected all my rosin from my 7-gram press and it won't even tip the scales enough to show as 1/10 of a gram. Does this make me a rosin presser???

 

[Dutchman1990]

Hey, thanks Sauga. I tried to fix my infrared thermometer tonight and it didn't work out so I think I will put the pressing on the back burner for the time being. I don't want to buy one but really need it till I can come up with another idea.



I have a lot of failures but fortunately, most aren't so public, lol. And yes I totally agree that it is the heat and I would start experimenting with heating but my darn temp gun gives out right when I need it. I'll just have to continue to live vicariously through you for the time being!! I am going to mull things over for a while.

Well I’ve got lots of presses coming up this week so not a problem!

I have collected all my rosin from my 7-gram press and it won't even tip the scales enough to show as 1/10 of a gram. Does this make me a rosin presser???

Any rosin collected is good rosin collected but it just wasn’t very successful for your first attempt ... few tweaks and changes and im sure your pressing will kick it up a notch!

 

[Th34v4t4r]

I like the sounds of this rosin pressing.. would someone like to update me on its basic principles... how easy is this to try. I'm guessing not very?

 

[Homer Simpson]

Well I’ve got lots of presses coming up this week so not a problem!



Any rosin collected is good rosin collected but it just wasn’t very successful for your first attempt ... few tweaks and changes and im sure your pressing will kick it up a notch!

I look forward to the show Dutch. I predict I will get something figured out or I won't. I may break down and buy another temp gun. That breaking down really put a crimp in my plans.

 

[Homer Simpson]

I like the sounds of this rosin pressing.. would someone like to update me on its basic principles... how easy is this to try. I'm guessing not very?

I like the sounds of this rosin pressing.. would someone like to update me on its basic principles... how easy is this to try. I'm guessing not very?

Dutchman just started a good thread about it if you want to check it out.

Dutchman's Rosin Room!

DutchMans’ Rosin Room What is it? Well in the simplest of terms Rosin is an extraction process that takes a combination of heat and pressure to squeeze the resins from Weed. The “rosin” is incredible in flavour and potency. It can be made with either the bud, trim, kief, or hash! The result...

www.420magazine.com

 

[InTheShed]

Does this make me a rosin presser???

I'm with Dutch that it's consistent and even heat that you need, and I'm guessing that having those plates immediately begin cooling (metal being a great conductor of heat and all) that this is the reason folks by those heating thingys for their plates.

That looks more like a ball of scissor hash .

 

[Homer Simpson]

I'm with Dutch that it's consistent and even heat that you need, and I'm guessing that having those plates immediately begin cooling (metal being a great conductor of heat and all) that this is the reason folks by those heating thingys for their plates.

That looks more like a ball of scissor hash .

I do agree with you and Dutch that my problem is that my method didn’t give me consistent and even heat. To be honest I don’t really care if I can squeeze rosin or not but I tried it because I thought it would be the easiest way to recover as much cannabinoids with the least effort and I was hoping I could do it without buying any equipment.

I was under the impression the rosin squeezing method is the most efficient method of extracting but maybe I am wrong so I am hoping you can set me straight Shed. I was using the olive oil method but the problem with that method is that when I add 6 ounces of olive oil to 14 grams of weed I only get 4 ounces back because two ounces must remain in the weed despite squeezing it with a C-clamp. That’s why I decided to try the heat and squeeze method hoping it would be more efficient.

I know there is the dry ice method and the alcohol method and the heat and squeeze method and the olive oil method and I just wonder according to your opinion which method gives the greatest yield?

If the best method is the heat and squeeze method I have found heating elements online that I could adapt to my one inch plates by drilling them out but they are almost $200 so I really don’t want to go that route unless it is by far the most efficient method of recovery. Any opinion?

PID controller with heat probes PCHP01

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[InTheShed]

The most efficient method of extraction would be ethanol. It melts every trichome off the plant. People who press save the pucks for ethanol extraction.

Grandpa has the basics here:

Grandpa Gets Oily! Everclear Extracts For Shatter Or Oil!

Hello everyone! Grandpa’s making some killer oils and I want to share the process I go through. The goal with this particular batch is to get the best I can from the material I’m using. I’m in search of trichome heads and as little green (Chlorophyll) as possible. We want the Everclear to do...

www.420magazine.com

If you want to reuse the ethanol to make it a much less expensive process, a water distiller will recapture around 80% of the ethanol.

 

[Homer Simpson]

The most efficient method of extraction would be ethanol. It melts every trichome off the plant. People who press save the pucks for ethanol extraction.

Grandpa has the basics here:

Grandpa Gets Oily! Everclear Extracts For Shatter Or Oil!

Hello everyone! Grandpa’s making some killer oils and I want to share the process I go through. The goal with this particular batch is to get the best I can from the material I’m using. I’m in search of trichome heads and as little green (Chlorophyll) as possible. We want the Everclear to do...

www.420magazine.com

If you want to reuse the ethanol to make it a much less expensive process, a water distiller will recapture around 80% of the ethanol.

Thank you Shed for the info. That saved me a lot of time.

That is actually good news because I just happen to have a few gallons of 95% ethanol sitting around. I haven’t tried that method yet because I figured the problem would be that a lot of the alcohol would be unrecoverable because it gets absorbed into the weed just like the olive oil would?

So I was thinking of doing a second rinse in new ethanol after the first squeeze and I have read some people boil the leftovers in water in a cheesecloth bag to get the last bits of resin out and then scoop it off the surface of the water? I have some experimenting to do but I think Thursday is the big day for my first alcohol rinse.

I haven’t done it yet also because to evaporate the alcohol I want to do it in the garage with the big door open to avoid blowing the house up but it is supposed to be 60 F on Thursday here in Ontario. Yippie. Thanks again, buddy.

 

[MrSauga]

Do a search on 3/8" cartridge heaters. You drill holes in the plates and insert the heaters. Wire the heaters into your controller and away you go. Depending on the thickness of the plates you'll want a minimum of 400W heaters to ramp up fast and maintain temps easily. 1/2" diameter rods would be better if your plate is over half inch thick.
Lower wattage and you'll be taking too long to maintain the temp once the heat transfer starts.

The heaters, if off the shelf, can be relatively cheap, but you have to shop around. McMaster Carr has a large selection.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Do a search on 3/8" cartridge heaters. You drill holes in the plates and insert the heaters. Wire the heaters into your controller and away you go. Depending on the thickness of the plates you'll want a minimum of 400W heaters to ramp up fast and maintain temps easily. 1/2" diameter rods would be better if your plate is over half inch thick.
Lower wattage and you'll be taking too long to maintain the temp once the heat transfer starts.

The heaters, if off the shelf, can be relatively cheap, but you have to shop around. McMaster Carr has a large selection.

Thanks, Sauga; I wasn't sure what to google so knowing they are cartridge heaters helped a lot. I am still looking at a couple of hundred dollars so I think I will try the alcohol method since I have everything I need for that. I may revisit the heater system if I manage to blow up the garage or something experimenting with alcohol, lol.

 

[MrSauga]

OK, not funny... lol

 

[InTheShed]

Experimenting with alcohol is for teenagers!

 

[Homer Simpson]

I tried my first attempt today at doing a tincture. I put 6 ounces of 95% alcohol and ½ oz of decarbed bud separately in the freezer overnight to cool. Today I mixed them together for five minutes stirring every 30 seconds.

I strained it with one of my 90u rosin bags and after squeezing the liquid out of it just with my hand I figure I ended up with about 4.75 ounces so I figure I lost about 20% that soaked into the bud.

I submerged the bag of bud and boiled it on the stove for a few hours to try to get the last bit of oil out of it. I was thinking of putting it in the freezer and hoping maybe the oil solidifies a little bit before the water freezes making it easier to recover. Unless anyone has a better idea. Of course, I don’t want to spend the money but what I really need is a separatory funnel unit. I really want to find a way to get every bit eventually.

There is my double boiler system to reduce it down. I took it down from about 4 ¾ ounces to about three quarters of an ounce so it should be pretty potent. I was aiming for an ounce but I went a little too far.

You can tell it’s high test alcohol when it boils at 80°C.

All ready for testing!!