First CFL Grow Using 30 Watt CFLs

I started reading this because I got some Big Bang seeds and wanted to do some research. Several pages later I'm wondering wher I could put a fish tank in my house. WTF happened? Lol iv been wanting to get another grow box, but the wife says it will be to obvious in the bed room or office due to noise and size and power cords. But if I make it look like regular cabinet with a marine tank on top, I suddenly have a reason for the noisr, power cords, water cooler, and box itself! I think I just picked up a new hobby and a way to hide another grow box. I love your journals X.
 
i understand, but im talking about NOT filtering the water, and having a thru flow of around 2.38%. rather like a lake with a stream in and a stream out. nitrate/amonia is the easiest to control by this method, the bit that needs some more data is things like breeding rates of algae aand bacteria at this kind of flow rate, IE is it slow enough for the bacteria to breed faster than it can be diluted and the opposite for algae is the flow fast enough to prevent build up?

i know its a bit outside the box, but thats me im afraid, i dont do things the normal way...especially if the normal way means having to keep a diary of jobs that need doing...if there is a way to automate something...i will find it ;)


Good, figure out a cheap way I can auto feed my mother plants before they die
 
Good, figure out a cheap way I can auto feed my mother plants before they die

lol which grow? =p your sig is confusing unless ALL those are currently active. i did respond to the one with all the new power toys ;)

the fully automated system for hydro would be a waterflow with PH up/down res' connected to sensors and nute res' all connected as drippers into a running stream that falls into a mixing vat then on through the plants then runs to waste...then just dial it down so there is almost no waste. im not sure how quickly PH bounces in hydro as ive not done it yet, but i suspect 6 hours of exposure would be about right. so basicly a drop of liquid hitting your first plant leaves the last plant no later than in 6 hours time.
lol im just running on pure imagination here btw...no facts are being referenced ;)

i want a run to waste system a bit like this, but my waste would then go to feed the seaweed farm that provides the seaweed i liquify for the start of my feed run, lol =D
 
We ALL LOVE THE JOURNALS, even ones about stinky Aquarium Water!!! LOL!!!:high-five: GIGAbane, DP and MIWA, the seat of their pants, Practical, Cheap and SMART GROWERS, SO SAY I, The ANGLO SAXON AMERICAN MONARCHIST I KNOW OF!!!, LOVE THOSE COMMONWEALTH TROOPS, THEY were a JOY TO SERVE WITH, BRAVE, SINCERE, and utterly FEARLESS, at least most of THEM!!! Being an E-8 First SARGENT in the USMC, I got to work with plenty of their BEST, Especially their CWO's and NCO'S!!!:high-five:

Do not let the Modern English ANTI-War ESTABLISHMENT Journals, by BBC, and by whatever AND WHOEVER ELSE produces them FOOl YOU, they are still some of the VERY BEST MARINES, I ever had the pleasure to serve with, in IRAQ,Afghanistan and other places I cannot NAME for a good 25 years. The AUSSIES AND NEW ZEALANDERS WERE THE BEST AS WELL, DAMN BRAVE FIGHTING MEN, AN AUSSIE ALWAYS HAS YOUR BACK, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO YOUR SOCOM UNIT!!! DAMN FINE SHOTS AS WELL, WHERE DO YOU THINK US AMERICANS LEARNED OUR INTELLIGENCE SKILLS FROM, ONE GUESS, THE SAS!!! AND MI-5!!! SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN. AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, AND OF COURSE, GOD BLESS AMERICA, FOREVER, WITH US TOGETHER, WE ARE ALMOST UNBEATABLE, RIGHT GIGABANE???:slide:

MY WORD, IS CHARLES EVER GONNA BECOME KING??? OR IS ELIZABETH II GONNA LIVE TO BE 200 YEARS OLD??? JUST MAKES ME WONDER IS ALL, POOR CHARLES, NOT SURE HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD KING ANYWAYS, I THINK HIS SONS ARE MORE UP TO SNUFF IN THAT MANNER ANYWAYS!!! ALL HAIL AUSTRALIA!!! AND NEW ZEALAND!!! GOOD OLE ANZAC TROOPS, SOME OF THE BEST I ALSO EVER SERVED WITH, NO BS THERE!!! ONCE AGAIN, SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN. RETIRED FIRST SARGENT UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS, UYYOORAAH!!! WHAT EVER HAS HAPPENED TO CLOSET FARMER, IT SAYS HE IS ON VACATION, ALA GRACES GARDEN, NO WAY TO CONTACT HIM, IF ANTONE COULD PM ME AND LET ME KNOW THE POOP, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED, HE WAS/IS A GOOD FRIEND, AND I THOUGHT MEMBER AS WELL, HAPPY KITTY, ANYTHING YOU CAN PASS ALONG???
 
i understand, but im talking about NOT filtering the water, and having a thru flow of around 2.38%. rather like a lake with a stream in and a stream out. nitrate/amonia is the easiest to control by this method, the bit that needs some more data is things like breeding rates of algae aand bacteria at this kind of flow rate, IE is it slow enough for the bacteria to breed faster than it can be diluted and the opposite for algae is the flow fast enough to prevent build up?

i know its a bit outside the box, but thats me im afraid, i dont do things the normal way...especially if the normal way means having to keep a diary of jobs that need doing...if there is a way to automate something...i will find it ;)

You could probably simplify it by doing it in hydro, like a DWC where the reservoir is the fish tank, or a top feed system with the plant suspended in a pot above the fish tank and the tank water is pumped up into the pot and runs back down into the fish tank
 
We ALL LOVE THE JOURNALS, even ones about stinky Aquarium Water!!! LOL!!!:high-five: GIGAbane, DP and MIWA, the seat of their pants, Practical, Cheap and SMART GROWERS, SO SAY I, The ANGLO SAXON AMERICAN MONARCHIST I KNOW OF!!!, LOVE THOSE COMMONWEALTH TROOPS, THEY were a JOY TO SERVE WITH, BRAVE, SINCERE, and utterly FEARLESS, at least most of THEM!!! Being an E-8 First SARGENT in the USMC, I got to work with plenty of their BEST, Especially their CWO's and NCO'S!!!:high-five:

Do not let the Modern English ANTI-War ESTABLISHMENT Journals, by BBC, and by whatever AND WHOEVER ELSE produces them FOOl YOU, they are still some of the VERY BEST MARINES, I ever had the pleasure to serve with, in IRAQ,Afghanistan and other places I cannot NAME for a good 25 years. The AUSSIES AND NEW ZEALANDERS WERE THE BEST AS WELL, DAMN BRAVE FIGHTING MEN, AN AUSSIE ALWAYS HAS YOUR BACK, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO YOUR SOCOM UNIT!!! DAMN FINE SHOTS AS WELL, WHERE DO YOU THINK US AMERICANS LEARNED OUR INTELLIGENCE SKILLS FROM, ONE GUESS, THE SAS!!! AND MI-5!!! SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN. AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, AND OF COURSE, GOD BLESS AMERICA, FOREVER, WITH US TOGETHER, WE ARE ALMOST UNBEATABLE, RIGHT GIGABANE???:slide:

MY WORD, IS CHARLES EVER GONNA BECOME KING??? OR IS ELIZABETH II GONNA LIVE TO BE 200 YEARS OLD??? JUST MAKES ME WONDER IS ALL, POOR CHARLES, NOT SURE HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD KING ANYWAYS, I THINK HIS SONS ARE MORE UP TO SNUFF IN THAT MANNER ANYWAYS!!! ALL HAIL AUSTRALIA!!! AND NEW ZEALAND!!! GOOD OLE ANZAC TROOPS, SOME OF THE BEST I ALSO EVER SERVED WITH, NO BS THERE!!! ONCE AGAIN, SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN. RETIRED FIRST SARGENT UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS, UYYOORAAH!!! WHAT EVER HAS HAPPENED TO CLOSET FARMER, IT SAYS HE IS ON VACATION, ALA GRACES GARDEN, NO WAY TO CONTACT HIM, IF ANTONE COULD PM ME AND LET ME KNOW THE POOP, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED, HE WAS/IS A GOOD FRIEND, AND I THOUGHT MEMBER AS WELL, HAPPY KITTY, ANYTHING YOU CAN PASS ALONG???

No idea what happened to CF, i dont like this total break in contact. imagine if it was donpaul or jandre and all the many other quality people that make this site what it is....yes this is officially a rant now. its the MEMBERS that make this site, ok some may come and go but the collective spirit lives on. and if i want to contact someone that has been sent to coventry by the admins i have that right. It really does scare me that i may say the wrong word and these people would cut me off from you guys. i can understand a bit of censorship and maybe an enforced short term holiday as a slap in the face for bad behaviour...but to utterly ban someone or send them away for months with no contact whatsoever without a community vote is unacceptable.

Please my brothers and sisters take this and write it down somewhere this site has no control of, it is one of my secret email addresses and i care not what spam goes to it, nor do i care if im spied on as i bounce the line through turkey and china via anon proxy. I as an adult of sound mind and body publicly display this email and i do NOT want to be 'protected'.
animarum_errantium@yahoo.co.uk

animarum underscore errantium at yahoo dot co dot uk

ok /end rant

I do not believe charles should ever get the throne, i hope we riot if he does. that business with diane and camilla is a disgrace. the crown should go directly to HRM Prince William, A worthy monarch whom i would bend a knee for.

You could probably simplify it by doing it in hydro, like a DWC where the reservoir is the fish tank, or a top feed system with the plant suspended in a pot above the fish tank and the tank water is pumped up into the pot and runs back down into the fish tank

see now that makes sence! bugger all this juggling around, just leave the roots of your plant IN the fishtank =D
 
see now that makes sence! bugger all this juggling around, just leave the roots of your plant IN the fishtank =D

Yeah, would be quite easy I reckon. The only issues I could see would be the roots being exposed to light (you could get some of those fish that live in caves and are quite happy in the dark!), but I reckon you could put a standard DWC bucket in the fish tank that didn't let light in, but had one or two of those lightproof louvres fitted in the side; these would let water through but not any light so the roots could remain in the dark but would still have the tank water reaching them, and this would also keep the fish away from the roots.

Not sure what pH range fish can tolerate, but I'm sure there are species that live in slightly acidic waters (like peat lochs in Scotland) and so could handle a pH of 5.8 quite comfortably.

The air stone would also aerate the fish tank, and you could use a pump with a filter containing biomedia to make sure the fish waste was being converted to nitrates and that could top feed the net pot with the plant in.
 
funny you should mention that about the roots being exposed to light...im not so sure 'light' per se is all that harmful. without double checking i think donpaul or jandre is about to test a grow in a clear pot just to see.

and ive seen tons of grow shop style how to's and product adverts where the roots are perfectly fine dangling for all to see for hours on end.

i think it may be a combination of factors maybe a combination of light/heat/airflow that tells a root to give up or die. my dwc tubs are not very dark proofed really compared to the light hitting them. i change my water every 2 days and that helps them keep cool.

we will see soon enough between the lot of us, lol...would be nice to crack another myth, dont think we have busted one in a week or two, :rofl:
 
Loyalty - Courage - Respect..These things we have in common. We got ya back til the end..
Lest we forget.. Many people who served and died without recognition, all deserve our respect for going forth and facing the un known, NO MATTER WHAT!!
Im an old skool Aussie - im 32, my father served in the war, and granfather in WW1.. Im against todays " WAR" as its politically motivated ( yes given some instances in past were the same ), But MONEY controls the evil who sends us into harm innocent people, like our next door neighbours, who arent out there planting IED s and shit, just going about their normal lives.. It appals me the atrocities that some foreign countries perform on the innocent civilians in shops, buildings, houses, schools etc; ITS WRONG!!
Sure we need oil, but not blood for oil.. Id rather pay an extra 50cents a litre petrol to avoid that!!! And i hate the price of petrol!!
Hmmm. Gettting off track from Ganja abit?? Lol.. Umm there was great ganja in the war... Yes, that will suffice:)
Blaze on our compatriates and may be all get baked in peace.. Smoke $ Cindy
 
i have much respect for the armed forces, enough that all my kids are to go in for minimum service. but i completely disagree with this war. we should never have gone to iraq either. vs someone like saddam you use assasination and for the taliban extremists you use the SAS. general infantry is nothing but targets in a guerrilla war.. and we should not be there except for 3 reasons, a tyrant is hurting and killing his own people. or we are defending against a hostile force with significant numbers hiding in a hostil land and finally the arab nations request help collectively from their western allies.

iraq was a tyrant leader issue. all those poor solders that died on both sides was a damn shame. when are we westerners going to learn to use a pair of snips instead of a bulldozer. im not naive to the fact that saddam had doubles and was very hard to locate, but we (allies) have some of the finest snipers in the world and are suppose to have those super bunker busters. these idiots would soon learn to behave if every time one took power and abused his people they suddenly lost their life.. sadly we would have to risk ours and kill their soilders when they leave the theater of operations to do us harm in another.

as to the taliban. if we ignore their motives for the moment (because i dont think they are completely unjust), we should only have UN type troops in afghanistan as peacekeepers, our actual attacks against them would be better served being covert operatives living and breathing the afghanistan way working their way into the organisation on as many levels as they can.

i do believe this is a war for oil and i find it insidious to call it anything else. british colonialism wasnt ashamed of itself, we came, we saw and we conquered...and we didnt appologise for the fact we were expanding. im not saying im proud of what we did, but at least we were honest about our motives.

and to be honest we do have a LOT of rich people in our nations that are not complete assholes and do care about the world who would dig a lot deeper and give generously to alternative energy research if they were told the truth that basically our apathy towards swapping to non oil is directly taking lives all around the world.

rant over, lol
 
You know GiG, Smoke, Cyndy,Miwa, Spring 2012(THAT I REALLY DO NOT KNOW, BUT WOULD LIKE TOO),Green Knight(DO NOT, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOU AS WELL), this is one Hell of a site, now I must admit, I have NO DESIRE, to ever hear, or listen TOO Grace Again, on one of HER imagined slights, or drug induced rants, BUT CLOSET FARMER(NOT HIS REAL NAME, BTW), it just irks the HELL out of ME that He has been Summarily Removed from this Site/Thread/Magazine , my little Corner of Happiness. If we cannot speak the TRUTH, with out being judged for it, we are no better than a Gestapo, KGB, CIA type of operation!!! I say those things about GRACE, because She stepped way,way, way over the line in Her imagined rants at Me, and some other People I was informed of as well, so much for Cannabis calming the soul, at least with HER!!! But to remove a SWELL CHAP like CF,that seems to me to just be wrong, and NO ONE, seems to KNOW what He DID!!! Knoing CF, it could not have been that bad, he is a late 40ish early 50ish Man, what the Hell could he have said that was so DAMN BAD, that He got the AXE???

Me being a Fellow Marine, HAVE TAKEN THIS QUITE HARD!!! AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, HE WAS A GENTLEMAN, A MARINE FIRST(AND ALWAYS TO ME), and had some of the nicest things to say everyday about everything??? And to just about everyone I ever read a reply from Him TO. Leaves Me scratching My Head, He was truly one of the GUYS, and I sorely MISS HIM, even though it has only been a FEW DAYS!!! I say we petition and try to get Him Back!!!! I'll probably get the SLAP DOWN FOR THIS AS WELL, BUT HEY, HE IS A FELLOW MARINE, AND WE LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND, ESPECIALLY IF THEIR ACTIONS(AS FAR AS I KNOW ANYWAYS), do not warrant an exclusion from the site. If they ever let Him come back, He'll probably say(LIKE ALL OF US PROBABLY WOULD, Gig, Smoke,Cyndy, FC, Buck, Wayno(OOPS SORRY), OMM, Smoke2Js, miwa, BCbudd, Canuck Gal(You Red Head You)Yarrow, Me, IceMud, DPP,Jandre, any and all I did not mention, for this site, TO "GO TO HELL"!!!

When one cannot practice our First Amendment Rights, whether we insult or NOT, what the hell is really going on??? As we are all sensible Adults, well into our Adult Years, everything that is said, should always be taken with a grain of SALT, and if one cannot get over what has been rebutted them, well perhaps they are not Mature enough for a site like this

On a good note, my PTSD induced Insomnia has been dramatically reduced, to that it is almost not a problem anymore since I smoke regularly now that the Smokey Mountain Air(FOREST FIRES), has all been cleared up,and the CYPRO and Prednisone the Doctor gave Me was a GOD SEND!!! I think I must have been suffering from some weird infection for a very long Period of time, for about 4-5 years to be exact. I think I must have picked it up unknowingly sometime in IRAQ or Afghanistan, I always just ignored it, and carried on, but when I tried to Smoke, and it damn near killed Me, along with all the Poison Vapors that were in the air, I am glad I finally got to take something that knocked it on it's ASS!!!! And I have been sleeping wheeze Free Now for several weeks, and to think I suffered sleeping like a damn TB patient for a good 4-5 years!!!! Gigabane, lets get CF back, if we can without getting ourselves banned as well!!! He certainly deserves our support, as I believe He would do the same for us, I think I am gonna Consult 420 Girl or Happy Kitty, maybe we should both give it a try??? What say YOU??? I am Game, and believe Me, I have done things WAY MORE HAZARDOUS than this!!! This should be cake, and anyone else that would like to HELP, is more than welcome to as well, maybe if they let us know what happened, we might agree with them, but I really doubt it, and silence is the Hiding Place of Lies or half truths(NO OFFENSE 420 ADMINS), but that has been my experience with such matters, sorry, just stating what I have found out to be the TRUTH(I WORKED WITH THE CIA AN AWFUL LOT) and you could believe what they said about .05% of the time, if even that, and I certainly do not want our WONDERFUL 420 Site becoming like This, Please let us Know what CF did, and if you have to PM us to let us know, that is OK, it is all this SILENCE, and SECRETIVENESS that has US worried. We are all adults after all, and I believe that we can make our own decisions on things like this!!! Just let us know the SCOOP, and I am sure that we'll either agree with YOU, or at least give us the BEEF You had Problems with Him with. Maybe if He is Out Of Line, One, of Us Can Explain to Him the error of His ways(I DOUBT IT THOUGH, BUT IT IS WORTH A TRY ANYWAYS) AS I BELIEVE HE DID NOTHING WRONG, AT LEAST NOT WORTH BANNING FOR, I CANNOT MAKE THAT DECISION, NOT KNOWING WHATEVER HIS TRANSGRESSION IS, THIS AIN'T GUANTANAMO BAY FOR CRISSAKES!!! HIS VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD,AND IF HE STEPPED OVER THE LINE, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO APPROVE HIS BAN, FOR A WEEK OR TWO, BUT NOT FOREVER, THIS AIN'T IRAQ OR ABHUGHRAIB PRISON FOR THAT MATTER.EITHER!!! SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN. PLEASE DO NOT BAN ME FOR SUPPORTING A FRIEND, I JUST WOULD LIKE MORE INFO ON WHAT HAPPENED, SO I CAN MAKE MY OWN DECISION ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. JAMESTHEGREEN.:thumb:
 
Couldnt have said it better myself:) Go JAMES!!!
 
wow CF isnt his real name?
 
oh and he will be back:)
 
You know GiG, Smoke, Cyndy,Miwa, Spring 2012(THAT I REALLY DO NOT KNOW, BUT WOULD LIKE TOO),Green Knight(DO NOT, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOU AS WELL), this is one Hell of a site, now I must admit, I have NO DESIRE, to ever hear, or listen TOO Grace Again, on one of HER imagined slights, or drug induced rants, BUT CLOSET FARMER(NOT HIS REAL NAME, BTW), it just irks the HELL out of ME that He has been Summarily Removed from this Site/Thread/Magazine , my little Corner of Happiness. If we cannot speak the TRUTH, with out being judged for it, we are no better than a Gestapo, KGB, CIA type of operation!!! I say those things about GRACE, because She stepped way,way, way over the line in Her imagined rants at Me, and some other People I was informed of as well, so much for Cannabis calming the soul, at least with HER!!! But to remove a SWELL CHAP like CF,that seems to me to just be wrong, and NO ONE, seems to KNOW what He DID!!! Knoing CF, it could not have been that bad, he is a late 40ish early 50ish Man, what the Hell could he have said that was so DAMN BAD, that He got the AXE???

Me being a Fellow Marine, HAVE TAKEN THIS QUITE HARD!!! AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, HE WAS A GENTLEMAN, A MARINE FIRST(AND ALWAYS TO ME), and had some of the nicest things to say everyday about everything??? And to just about everyone I ever read a reply from Him TO. Leaves Me scratching My Head, He was truly one of the GUYS, and I sorely MISS HIM, even though it has only been a FEW DAYS!!! I say we petition and try to get Him Back!!!! I'll probably get the SLAP DOWN FOR THIS AS WELL, BUT HEY, HE IS A FELLOW MARINE, AND WE LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND, ESPECIALLY IF THEIR ACTIONS(AS FAR AS I KNOW ANYWAYS), do not warrant an exclusion from the site. If they ever let Him come back, He'll probably say(LIKE ALL OF US PROBABLY WOULD, Gig, Smoke,Cyndy, FC, Buck, Wayno(OOPS SORRY), OMM, Smoke2Js, miwa, BCbudd, Canuck Gal(You Red Head You)Yarrow, Me, IceMud, DPP,Jandre, any and all I did not mention, for this site, TO "GO TO HELL"!!!

When one cannot practice our First Amendment Rights, whether we insult or NOT, what the hell is really going on??? As we are all sensible Adults, well into our Adult Years, everything that is said, should always be taken with a grain of SALT, and if one cannot get over what has been rebutted them, well perhaps they are not Mature enough for a site like this

On a good note, my PTSD induced Insomnia has been dramatically reduced, to that it is almost not a problem anymore since I smoke regularly now that the Smokey Mountain Air(FOREST FIRES), has all been cleared up,and the CYPRO and Prednisone the Doctor gave Me was a GOD SEND!!! I think I must have been suffering from some weird infection for a very long Period of time, for about 4-5 years to be exact. I think I must have picked it up unknowingly sometime in IRAQ or Afghanistan, I always just ignored it, and carried on, but when I tried to Smoke, and it damn near killed Me, along with all the Poison Vapors that were in the air, I am glad I finally got to take something that knocked it on it's ASS!!!! And I have been sleeping wheeze Free Now for several weeks, and to think I suffered sleeping like a damn TB patient for a good 4-5 years!!!! Gigabane, lets get CF back, if we can without getting ourselves banned as well!!! He certainly deserves our support, as I believe He would do the same for us, I think I am gonna Consult 420 Girl or Happy Kitty, maybe we should both give it a try??? What say YOU??? I am Game, and believe Me, I have done things WAY MORE HAZARDOUS than this!!! This should be cake, and anyone else that would like to HELP, is more than welcome to as well, maybe if they let us know what happened, we might agree with them, but I really doubt it, and silence is the Hiding Place of Lies or half truths(NO OFFENSE 420 ADMINS), but that has been my experience with such matters, sorry, just stating what I have found out to be the TRUTH(I WORKED WITH THE CIA AN AWFUL LOT) and you could believe what they said about .05% of the time, if even that, and I certainly do not want our WONDERFUL 420 Site becoming like This, Please let us Know what CF did, and if you have to PM us to let us know, that is OK, it is all this SILENCE, and SECRETIVENESS that has US worried. We are all adults after all, and I believe that we can make our own decisions on things like this!!! Just let us know the SCOOP, and I am sure that we'll either agree with YOU, or at least give us the BEEF You had Problems with Him with. Maybe if He is Out Of Line, One, of Us Can Explain to Him the error of His ways(I DOUBT IT THOUGH, BUT IT IS WORTH A TRY ANYWAYS) AS I BELIEVE HE DID NOTHING WRONG, AT LEAST NOT WORTH BANNING FOR, I CANNOT MAKE THAT DECISION, NOT KNOWING WHATEVER HIS TRANSGRESSION IS, THIS AIN'T GUANTANAMO BAY FOR CRISSAKES!!! HIS VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD,AND IF HE STEPPED OVER THE LINE, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO APPROVE HIS BAN, FOR A WEEK OR TWO, BUT NOT FOREVER, THIS AIN'T IRAQ OR ABHUGHRAIB PRISON FOR THAT MATTER.EITHER!!! SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN. PLEASE DO NOT BAN ME FOR SUPPORTING A FRIEND, I JUST WOULD LIKE MORE INFO ON WHAT HAPPENED, SO I CAN MAKE MY OWN DECISION ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. JAMESTHEGREEN.:thumb:

Its all good fellas. before we start a riot in our zelous passion for each other, its beleived that CF is only on a short vacation. and is using the time well to go on an actual vacation, lol.

This does bring us nicely into a topic thats been brewing for some time now, and i do appologise to 420 for a previous unprofessional rant. my emotions got the better of me and i would like to explain better.

I think i speak for all of us active members of 2012, that in the here and now, we would like a little more transparency. and a little more input into what we can put into our own personal journals. Also maybe there is some way for us to select whether a particular journal is findable by search bot, ie 'clean' journals that represent the best of 420 essence, but also 'friendly' journals that are much harder to find on the web, but allowes us a more relaxed atmosphere. i believe you use a similar trigger on photo uploads by indicating the content is mature..mabe we could mature flag these journals.

As to transparency, i believe a simple members only topic stating bans and suspensions is sufficient to keep us all informed and produces a very small overhead of extra work.

Somehow the mood in recent months has become a bit of 'them or us' and i can attribute it to 2 main causes. firstly the censorship of pictures and smutty talk. granted, the picture issue is mainly MEMBER fault for not paying attantion and uploading as a normal picture in members galleries instead of into OFF TOPIC as they aught to. and the second is the lack of public awareness when a member goes awol, it almost feels like a dark alley snatch and grab, we log on in the morning and wonder who will be missing.

non of us want it to feel like this though, we do understand you have a lot to do, but we are feeling a little alienated. it does not do after all to leave a stoner hanging and paranoid, lol ;)

 
I was not aware about how quick a member can be censored or removed. I understand some form of control with regard to paid advertisers . That said I believe that competition is good. Go into any grow shop and the brands are competing so why hold back the info here on non paying brands? Still I would not want an un-paid infomercial!!

As for banning a member I better watch out! I stay out of politics because it only gets me into trouble and consumes my life! Keeps me in a shity mood! However I am willing to go to bat for a fellow member. As A Navy man myself I worked with Marines all of the time so team work is my specialty!!
 
damn, i dont go online for a few days and it gets crazy on here, whats all this banned talk about, i been missing out on all this,

this fish tank water business is taking off, wonder if i could bottle it and sell it, could make some cash selling fish poo water, thats what it is but it works and it works well by the looks of it, but i have not used it on all my plants till i sample the buds at the end of the grow,

ive also started 2 x 2ltr dwc hempies, one will be fish water and bpn the other will be tap water and bpn, so this way the plant will be grown in fish tank water, so then this removes the soil part of the grow so i can then see how it works on its own,

i spent 2 hours getting the seeds out of the reseva privada sour kush cross with some kiwi seed strain, i only pollenated 3 buds but ive got well over 300 seeds, plenty for me to be getting on with, i squeezed the seeds and some broke so clearly these where not ready, but most where ready so i put some in the fridge for 24 hours and i used paper towel method to test germination rates, so ill soon see how they turn out, my bluematic is nearly done as well and this is got seeds for me, just got to wait till its ready then ill hopefully get some auto seeds, so ill get the strongest male and female auto from the batch and cross them to try and make it more stable,

im trying to get caught up on whats going on but clearly ive missing out on all this banned business,

im getting round the journals so ill catch up with you all their, its just going to take a while thats all,

thanks for all the comments, i never thought this fish tank water would take off but clearly it has, im very suprised with the results myself, but clearly the water is perfect for these plants, i just wish i could test the water and get a break down of whats in it then we could probably replicate it, either we do that or we all get some tropical fish
 
i only do a water change every 4 to 6 weeks, if i emptied the whole tank then my fish would die, as you have mentioned the good stuff for the fish builds up in the water so changing all the water would harm the fish, so every 6 weeks i change 1/3rd of the water, this is all is needed to keep the tank healthy, plus i clean my filter around this time as well, it has 2 spong filters in it that i squeeze out and clean, this is all the sludge i was on about, plus in my filter i have a section that has some mineral in it, its has small white chalky stones and the water filters through this also, its some sort of mineral, ive never replaced it so not sure what it is, the only other thing i use is a suction pump, this sucks all the crap out the gravel at the bottom of the tank, this is all fish crap and un-used food, this all usually goes in the bin, but im wondering if this sludge could be mixed in with a batch of compost, as some sort of additive, im really not sure whats in it but its mainly poo and slime that the fish create, so im wondering if i kept this and let it dry out so it would go sort of powdery, then i could mix it in with the compost before planting the plants,
i just wish i could test it and find out what is exactly in this sludge.

im going to run 1 of these 2ltr dwc hempies on pure fish water and bpn, no tap water will be used, this way i can see how the plant grows in total fish water and then i can sample the buds at the end, i would use it on all my plants but till i sample the buds from this test plant i would rather not risk it in case i ended up with a load of manky bud, but so far so good, the buds are more developed on the fish water fed plant, the plant is growing quicker and seems more in flower then the clone of the same age, but i wont know the quality of the buds till i sample the goods, but i will be giving a good flush a bit before harvest to get everything out the soil that i dont want in their
 
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