First CFL Grow Using 30 Watt CFLs

so as miwa put it, it was either the cheap or free seeds that kept the yield wrong or my ph is all messed up with the soil grow, so next grow ill be doing it with ph tester and get the ph to where it needs to be, at least i can tell with the clones then if the ph makes a difference, if it does i should get bigger yield next time, if its just cheap and free seeds, then ill know this next time as well as i will be growing the same plants, so i can compare the grow, ill be using some as 2ltr hempie so as not to take up loads of room in grow room and have say 3 big plants and the rest hempie, i wont take cuttings from the pants unless i like the new fruity one i planted, the rest will be flowered and finished as is with no clones taken, ive got plenty of seeds to start again with different strains,
 
cheese #1 (uk cheese) is one of the smallest yielding canna plants going (small colas), I've had less then 5g from a medium sized plant growing cheese before, you want blue cheese or swiss cheese or big budda cheese all yield a lot better.

Whats important is you have a nice home grown smoke to last till the next plants are ready. Big money saving buying from your local dealer.
Then your next plants will be even better!
 
these cheese seeds where free seeds, this site i came across does a free seed offer every couple of months, they give away packs of 10 seeds with no purchase, first come first serve basis and they go pretty quick, they even pay for recorded post, so i applied and got a pack of 10 seeds, they are labeled as follows, ak47 male cross with uk cherry cheese female,

now i gave a seed away and planted 6, i got 1 female, 1 unknown and 2 unknown outdoor plants, the other where male,
the 1 fem i have got is the 2ltr dwc hempie, and its been in flower a while and all ready the buds are huge, it has got the 1 main bud which im aiming for, these buds are still forming and are all ready bigger than any of the buds on my other plant, i dont think i could get my hand round the bud put it that way, on the other plants i can, so im hoping it gives me a decent yield for a hempie grow, it grew well and i would like a normal pot plant of this so got 2 clones in veg now rooted and waiting for bigger pots, but it looked the best plant all the way through growth so im hoping it will give me bigger yields than what i got, possibly the ak47 helped bulk the buds up, not sure as i have never grown each strain on its own so wont know, its was a pack of 10 free seeds, so thought id plant some. thanks for the info though ill bare that in mind when im looking for seeds as cheese is a popular strain in the UK and most smokers call all good weed cheese for some mad reason, either its a good strong strain or they just call all good smelling weed cheese.

update on my plants, the nl x bb has now been harvested and trimmed and is now drying, not got wet weight cuz i got no scales, ill try and get some tomorrow, i took some pics on my cam phone but their shitty ill post them and let you see, ill get better camera again tomorrow and take some more pics, not a big yield, but more than i thought considering the plant was less than 1ft tall,
 
right below is a few pics of very poor quality, i didnt think i would get much yield due to the size of the plant, thinking i had problems during veg, lights to close maybe, wrong ph maybe, i think tesmp told me that as my tap water is ph 7.1 then when i add bpn it will lower it to where its good for hydro grows, so i need to adjust this for my next go round as i will be using ph to test with.
the big picture is all the buds, their was some small popcorn buds that i chucked in the box of trim, the buds on the bottom left are the small buds and the ones going to the right are the bigger buds, should last me a while, at least till i get my next harvest, thanks for all the input on this grow, it got me to my first harvest in 9 possibly 10 years, gota thanks teSmp and corey for making this possible with the blue planet nutrients, ill try and get some kitchen scales tomorrow and check wet weight, the test bud i took for days ago was tiny, and i let it dry by the warmth of my laptop as i leave it on 24-7, so i left it in paper bag and kept opening and closing it, it lost very little bulk and didnt shrink in size, yet when i came to smoke it it was dry enough to break up and sprinkle, it had the big bud smell, very little leaf taste which i found strange with quick dry bud, the high was great, a lot better than anything i have been buying, a great smoke and not bad for my first harvest

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ill try and get wet weight tomorrow ill borrow some kitchen scale, ill also post a lot better pics tomorrow as ill have proper camera, not expecting much people so try and be kind with the comments, i know i didnt get much, i didnt expect i would get much as the plant would not grow during veg, i need to get this dialed in for the next veg round,
 
my pet bird in the back ground is my buzzard, needs very little feeding, makes no mess, dont stink and dont make any fuss really, just sits their, very friendly,
 
oh yeah great looking pick I would be more than happy with that dp:) now its up to drying and cure. the cure is going to get you tho cause its hard to stay out of it before it is done lol but if you do manage to keep your paws out of the jar the reward will be sweet:)I had two plants finish real close to each other so I had something to smoke while the other got proper and it is proper! hope you enjoy your smoke either way:cheertwo:
 
thanks for all the kind words, nearly all of it will be dried and cured properly, ive taken out some of the smaller popcorn buds for quick dry so i got something to last me a while, not much, but i tried the test bud i took the other day and its a real nice smoke, i think nl n bb is nice combination, not to impressed with yield and size of the buds, but im sure i can get it all dialled in for the next grow, just got the kush to go and the 2ltr hempie which is packing on loads of weight by the looks of it, only time will tell, then i can veg and get the grow going and try and improve on what ill get from these, all been well my next go round will be a lot better
 
thanks jim, i quick dried about a quater of popcorn buds just tiny stuff, dried it in news paper and on top of my fishtank, kept airing it out got some dry, had a smoke and it dont taste harsh or grassy like i thought it would fast dried, it tastes nice and its much better than anything i have been smoking that i bought, not sure its much of a daytime smoke though, i have not moved since getting in, kids are asleep so rolled a couple of joints, and im so amazed at how good it came out, i wasnt expecting to to be as good and as nice as this, im surprised, so onwards and upwards now, it can only get better from here, but i got to find a nice daytime smoke now, i would love something different and fruity smell and tangy, but i also need a strain with a low odour during growth, after harvesting the nl x bb it stinks the place out, i got it hanging to dry in nice dark place and it stinks worse than it did when growing, got all windows and doors open, so glad its summer else id be sitting here in a coat and blanket.

thanks everyone for all your input and advice on this grow, im so happy with the results of the nl x bb, ive still got the kush to harvest when ready and the 2ltr hempie, im then going to flower off what i got in veg and start again with some new strains, so i dont get board, if i like the kush or the ak47 x uk cherry cheese then i may keep a clone going for the 3rd round, for now ive got enough in veg for round 2 and 1 seed soaked for round 2 as well, so roll on round 2,
 
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right below is a few pics of very poor quality, i didnt think i would get much yield due to the size of the plant, thinking i had problems during veg, lights to close maybe, wrong ph maybe, i think tesmp told me that as my tap water is ph 7.1 then when i add bpn it will lower it to where its good for hydro grows, so i need to adjust this for my next go round as i will be using ph to test with.
the big picture is all the buds, their was some small popcorn buds that i chucked in the box of trim, the buds on the bottom left are the small buds and the ones going to the right are the bigger buds, should last me a while, at least till i get my next harvest, thanks for all the input on this grow, it got me to my first harvest in 9 possibly 10 years, gota thanks teSmp and corey for making this possible with the blue planet nutrients, ill try and get some kitchen scales tomorrow and check wet weight, the test bud i took for days ago was tiny, and i let it dry by the warmth of my laptop as i leave it on 24-7, so i left it in paper bag and kept opening and closing it, it lost very little bulk and didnt shrink in size, yet when i came to smoke it it was dry enough to break up and sprinkle, it had the big bud smell, very little leaf taste which i found strange with quick dry bud, the high was great, a lot better than anything i have been buying, a great smoke and not bad for my first harvest

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ill try and get wet weight tomorrow ill borrow some kitchen scale, ill also post a lot better pics tomorrow as ill have proper camera, not expecting much people so try and be kind with the comments, i know i didnt get much, i didnt expect i would get much as the plant would not grow during veg, i need to get this dialed in for the next veg round,
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Size isn't everything when you are growing for yourself. Some of the best smoke I have had from my previous crops came from some of the smaller nuggets. My Blue Cheese plants for example always make smaller sized buds compared to GDP and others, but lots of them and they are always smooth and potent with great taste and aroma after curing for a few months.

If you prefer the big fat kind of buds, look into Blueberry Kush or Oregon Big Bud. They can produce buds that can get as fat as 4-5 inches in diameter and 5-8 inches long per nug. :)
 
hey teSmp, good to hear from you mate, so glad you came over and had a look at my first harvest, i was pretty surprised i got what i did considering the plants grew slow to start off with so i think that has something to do with it, plus im also thinking about what you said with the ph, as my tap water is 7.1 so mixing the bpn might have taken it to low, thats if i got that right mate, i think you said the ph would be more suited to a hydro set up after adding bpn to my ph 7.1 tap water, i have not tested anything yet apart from the tap water, so as soon as these 2 are out of flower ill be starting again and sorting the ph out, im not sure i want to splash out on ph up or down so i need to look into some home remedies for that, also i dont check the liquid im feeding the plants i check the run off dont i, well thats what i have read somewhere, as the plant will affect the ph after its been fed.

thanks for coming over mate, none of this would of been possible without your kindness mate, im sure i would of got a lot less or nothing if i had not started using the bpn magic,

if your not using bpn then you really need to give it a shot, it really is what these plants need and the prices are great as well, not so great for me as postage is a killer to where i am, but after trying the product i am all ready saving for my next time i need it, i should have enough easlly for round 2 and 3 of veg and flower, so all i can do now is improve on what i got and do the best i can, this time round ill be taking more notes and keeping basic info handy like day seed soaked and day planted, then how many days in veg and flower, as the plants i have got now i just dont know.

thanks teSmp for all your help, im really pleased with the results and even the quick dried buds smoke really nice, none of the leafy taste i got years ago when i fast dried, but this time i trimmed a lot closer to the buds and left nothing on them leaf wise, i trimmed it right back so all i got was buds, i got a decent box of trim for my hash making when i have got enough, i had plenty of fat sweet leaf trimmed in the box so all this will addd up over a few grows then ill get some hash bags and try the water and ice method, its gota be worth a try normally i would of thrown it away or kept the best trim and used to to smoke, but im keeping it all till i have enough and then ill try my hand at making some real hash. not the commercial crap that most people sell.

i soaked a seed last night ready for round 2 of veg, it has sprouted today so im using the herb iq to keep track of all i do, plus im keeping it on paper in case my comp packs in,

the seed i soaked is a delicious fruity chronic juice femenised, not sure what it will be like or how it smokes, but it was a freebie from herbies and sounds nice so for round 2 ill be using up my clones and veg this seed,
 
just eating a chicken korma, kids are in bed, got a small pot of bud, going to roll a fat one and i think im going to get an amazing sleep, i just wish my government would get their heads out their arses and look past the kids smoking weed and think of the medical value and how it can actually help, i mean illegal or not kids will smoke it that wont change, kids drink till the legless then smash the place up, i know i was one of the kids drinking in the park, not so much smashing the place up but causing a nuisance and getting in trouble, kids will always be kids, but allowing it to be used for medical reasons would cut crime rates down as genuine users wont be getting arrested, it would not be hard to manage, they could do a 1 strike and your out rule, sell or give it to anyone without a med card and you will lose the right to legally smoke the plants, its bout time this got sorted out.

so thats my views on this crap, i know for a fact that tonight i wont need to take 3 different sleeping tablets just to get a couple of hours sleep, this will save money and medication and instead of prescribing meds that are addictive they should see how cannabis can improve peoples lives and make it so much easier for them to cope.

@ teSmp, thanks for the info on the strains mate, ill reps you if i can,

please feel free to jump and and tell me of any strains that produce huge buds, id like more than 2oz dry per plant so anything over that will be a bonus, im just thinking cost wise due to electric and lights etc etc, so if i can increase the yield by growing strains that are huge producers then id prefer to grow them, but im happy to try anything, the plant i just harvested was a freebie when i bought the kush, the kush looks amazing, cant wait to try that, it has got no orange hairs on it yet so got a good while to go plus ill leave it till most trichs are turning amber, i want a real couch lock with that, its getting that fat, the buds are not long but they are really fat, even the sweet leaves look like their getting really fat, the trichs are really packing on on that now, cant wait till i harvest that, i wont get much off it and i mean i wont get much at all, but i think what i will get will be totally amazing and more than worth the small amount.

im just so chuffed i managed to grow from start to finish without something drastic happening, im so glad of all the help off everyone on here, i pissed a lot of people off by asking stupid questions but if you dont ask you wont find out, thats why i dont mind anyone posting anything in my journal im more than happy to pass on what i have learned and you can ask anything here as im sure someone following will be able to help.

ive been going round some of the new growers in the journals and giving them advice as they are just starting out like i was, and it makes me feel good that i can now look at their set up and give them advice and guidance if they need it,

i even spent £2 on the auction site and purchased 5 packs of special rizla or rolling papers as im not sure what you call them over your end of the world, their normally paper and sometimes coloured, well i came across these a while back and thought id give them a try, they are called grassleaf rizla, basically they look like they are a thin piece of plastic that is see through, but their not plastic their made from grass leaf or something like that, i was a bit warry at first when i tried one thinking it would taste like plastic but it dont, its normal paper thats like a very fine clear plastic, best part is they come in all sorts of mad colours, so i ordered the following
2 x illuminus pink, i love pink my fav colour, only iluminious pink or how ever its spealt, even got bright pink socks that i wear on special occasions
1 x blue
1 x yellow
1 x red
1 x green
they do other colours as well as clear, they have no glue strip on them so you can roll them any way you like and lick them where you like, so their easy to join together, their king size rizla size so perfect for a joint and looks so crazy when you roll a fat joint with bright pink paper, looks crazy and you cant even taste the paper, with rizla i can taste the paper so buy the ultra thin with this i cant taste anything, ill post some pics when i get camera back, or just search on auction site for grass leaf rizla ultra thin king size
 
below is the family tree of this strain of seed i just planted, if anyone can fill me in a bit on what i should be expecting from it then give me a shout, i looked on the seed banks and came across a couple of different write ups, maybe someone here has grown it or knows someone who has, it sounded nice so i soaked it and it will be going into pot tomorrow it is femenised as well, the other nice sounding one i have got is reserve privada sour kush, also known as headband im told, never heard of it, i have got 2 seeds of each and both fem, so anyone have any ideas what id expect of this below and the other seed mentioned, not to worry if not as im sure we will all find out when i have grown and harvested it,

here is the tree of the seed i just soaked it popped its shell withing 12 hours so will be going into a pot tomorrow and in veg with my clones
Strain Lineage / Genealogy / Family Tree

Fruity Chronic Juice »»» Chronic x White Widow
Chronic
»»» Northern Light x {Skunk x Northern Light} x AK47
Skunk x Northern Light
Skunk
Skunk #1
»»» Afghanistan x Mexico x Colombia
Afghanistan »»» Indica
Mexico »»» Sativa
Colombia »»» Sativa
Northern Light
Northern Lights #1 IBL
Afghanistan »»» Indica
Northern Light (specified above)
AK47
»»» Colombia x Mexico x Thailand x Afghanistan
Colombia »»» Sativa
Mexico »»» Sativa
Thailand »»» Sativa
Afghanistan »»» Indica
White Widow
»»» Brazil x India
Brazil »»» Sativa
India »»» Indica
 
lol always a eye workout reading your posts mate.

I find the biggest yielding plants aren't the largest colas, nor the smallest. Plants like northen lights,chronic,any white strain,big bud,powerplant. all yield the biggest hauls but if you just want a giant cola try the classic ''Orange bud''!

Them grassleaf rizla's are hard to roll, they fold up when you lick them. FYI there made from the same crap them ''red moving fish'' you get in Christmas crackers (put on your hand it bends from heat). cellulose so is in fact closer to cotton then paper. they smoke cleanly but do have a slow burn rate and does also have a taste.

fruity chronic juice is a nice big cola plant btw...... what else..

oh yer, I don't think we should have med cards, it should be totally legal. just like cigarettes, alcohol, Salvia(what imo is a lot stronger then cannabis) etc, freely available over a counter to anyone 18+. I use weed for recreational use 1st, medical use 2nd and other then my crones I doubt someone like me would get a card in the UK (if it happened), my friend has MS and they won't even give him the THC synthetic they have available, even though it's proven to stop most of his symptoms.
 
I know how you feel DP..i still remember the 1st time i smoked my own...it was bagseed and better thAN THE SACK IT CAME FROM..glad you like your med...want big buds..Google Critical Mass..i got 1 in a pot...colas so big growers are having to deal with bud rot...so if you grow 1 be on the alert...are you going to stay with CFLs ???
 
Nice pull DP! Quite nice for your first grow.>> One day I'll cut my first down :)
 
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