Far East Buds 1st DWC Grow

What he said. :battingeyelashes: You need to scrub. She's obviously done.
 
OldMedUser said:
Pull the plug. She's crying to be done. Between the defoliation, nute burn and multiple bug sprays she's all but dead. Those shiny dark green/burnt leaves are not signs of good health. My mom turned 88 last week and if she looked that beat up I'd pull her plug.

You might get a few grams more if you wait but I'd flush her now and let nature take it's course over the next week or so.

Sorry to be so blunt but it's time to move on. You'll need to clean up that space to make sure any remnants of mites are gone for your next plant(s) and if you flush her out now you can save some time and get on with a new and better grow for the next go-round.

You've learned tons of stuff that will make the next ones so much better that this one will fade into the past soon enough.

That's what I would do at this point but your mileage may vary.

:rip:

L8r
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Thanks OMU I have been flushing since Tuesday. I guess I will harvest on Sunday... I wasn't trying to stretch it I just wasn't sure at this point if the appearance changes but still needed to wait for some reason. Yah Sunday would be great. Monday will be painting... clean up and re-set up. All my harvest stuff will be today or tomorrow... Well bubble bags etc but I need nothing to harvest at this point...

I am glad your Mom doesn't look that way. But She is from a good strain the OMU strain so I would expect as much.. ;) she's far from "Bag Seed".


I am ready to start fresh ... Can't wait... So yah Sunday it is.. Stay tuned.....late tomorrow after work and maintenance... shut off light before bed for a little extra dark. when I wake up Sunday ... chop chop.

Have a good Friday peops!

Thanks OMU I guess I was hoping for a little nudge from someone to ask what I was waiting for.

FE
 
SweetSue said:
What he said. :battingeyelashes: You need to scrub. She's obviously done.
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Thank You Sue! I'll do my notes and lists for my bud washing tonight! Thank you for all your encouragement on it. It helped me feel better a few weeks ago when I had to spray it for mites... You helped me through a stressful time of decision.. ;)

Thanks
FE
 
Bamalabrat said:
FE
Thanks for posting this great journal. It has been my pleasure to follow it. Thanks and congrats on a successful grow. Have fun with the harvest brother.
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Thank you it been a fun time.. stressful at times but fun.. I learned soooo much it is crazy. Overall has been a somewhat smooth grow..

Tomorrow is the night I guess... I'll set the lights to not come back on at 5 tomorrow night so it will be lights out all day until i clip clip...
let all the fluid drain all day.

Wash em good and hang em for the dry ;)

My hash ice bubble bags came in today so I should be good to go at a hash attempt at some point with the sugars I clip off...so ill be saving those..bag em up

By doing the harvest tomorrow at some point after work I can have Sunday to start redoing the room. Might as well not waste any time.. I need to paint and stuff so it will need to dry etc... pretty stoked...

Anyway off to research harvest some more....

:peace:
FE
 
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Did you catch that I'm excited for you? WooHoo!!!!
 
Hey FE just one thing to mention is the mistake I did on my first grow. I had 656g wet and didn't really think "drying" was going to be hard. Hang the stuff, get a fan and go. I didn't take humidity into account nor did I worry too much about the temps, big big mistake.

In four days all my stuff was dry and crispy and total weight no joke fell to 75g which makes Ruddie really sad.

The perfect drying environment you would have a humidifier or de-humidifier and the ability to control temps.

Conditions should remain constantly somewhere within the following ranges, temperature should be between 65-75 degrees F, relative humidity should be between 45%-55%.

At temperatures lower than 65 degrees, drying time will be lengthened. At temperatures higher than 75 degrees, the heat will cause the outer portion of the bud to dry quicker than the inner part, and the taste will suffer.

At humidity levels lower than 45%, the marijuana will dry too fast and the taste will suffer. At humidity levels higher than 55%, the marijuana will take a long time to dry, and it will be prone to mold.
 
ruddie said:
Hey FE just one thing to mention is the mistake I did on my first grow. I had 656g wet and didn't really think "drying" was going to be hard. Hang the stuff, get a fan and go. I didn't take humidity into account nor did I worry too much about the temps, big big mistake.

In four days all my stuff was dry and crispy and total weight no joke fell to 75g which makes Ruddie really sad.

The perfect drying environment you would have a humidifier or de-humidifier and the ability to control temps.

Conditions should remain constantly somewhere within the following ranges, temperature should be between 65-75 degrees F, relative humidity should be between 45%-55%.

At temperatures lower than 65 degrees, drying time will be lengthened. At temperatures higher than 75 degrees, the heat will cause the outer portion of the bud to dry quicker than the inner part, and the taste will suffer.

At humidity levels lower than 45%, the marijuana will dry too fast and the taste will suffer. At humidity levels higher than 55%, the marijuana will take a long time to dry, and it will be prone to mold.
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Thanks! Thats good info!
I knew I was gonna need to monitor it... I have nothing in Flower after this so I can take some gauges etc to my drying area.... hopefully my "man room" will work. it always runs around 74 degree's but I''ll need to check on the humid... thanks!

T minus like 20 minutes to Harvest and wash...;)

FE
 
9-5-2015

HARVEST!!!!

And yes almost brand new shears.. and they don't look it now...


So great harvest. I'll go get some weights in a few or in the am as they where drip drying from the washing my buds.

I used one cup lemon juice one cup baking soda in a cold 5 gallon jug. Hot as I could go on the tap in the first rinse (had to keep doing this as you will find out why) and last 5 gallon was just cold.

Took overall about three hours... No laughing!!! My first harvest... I cut too much leaves off then not enough...

Really the washing is why.......


It took 5 minutes and it all looked like this....

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Washing I am thrilled with hafta say... I will have nothing to compare taste wise to but the cleanliness of the buds and appearance on my sample buds are obvious. And yes when you see the shit in the tub after you are done you are like wtf that would have tasted nasty.

I do think I lost some tric's etc. Due to my errors in trimming there where some probably good leaves etc that ended up in the first wash. I don't think it would amount to too much but some. The Yield was good.


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I had to switch to my laptop as my main computer is messed up in some way and keeps crashing. I am glad the forum saves content as I go or I'd be pissed about now.

So that is all good stuff and good news!

But this grow is suppose to be an experience from start to finish so let's start some lesson learning!!!


I found on certain buds... guess what ... oh yah some seeds.

So now I will go on a tangent sorry.....

I have no idea if they are from it being a hermie... bad genetics, 3 males that i culled (it was so early in flower i would be shocked.)

Now some things on it... It seems on lower buds it had a few with some serious amounts. The big buds i will get a better idea tomorrow but they seem not be on them or have as many.

Does this help understand what happened better or did too much go amuck to know what it was??


wah wah wah

So the next question then. If i have some clones in veg and they are possibly prone to it.. then should I bother with them? Or if i do because they are close to flower time... will they pollinate other stuff ? should i solo them?

This changes stuff as I have my beans that just came in and I'd rather be growing those and will. But it will be awhile before any of those are near harvest. but if there is an overlap I'd hate to get them pollinated... And I will have to see how this harvest smokes the hash from cleaning was nice... Not sure best way to quick dry a bud for sampling.

Any who I am tired..
I'll get a better look tomorrow

:peace:
FE
 
I quick dry in the oven. You don't really get the full effect you'll get if you take a bud, cut it apart and spread it out somewhere to dry. It'll probably be dry enough to smoke in a day.

However, if you're the impatient type, like me, you can try my trick. Again, cut the buds apart to speed drying. Lay them out on a baking sheet or in a baking dish. Bake at 225 F for 30 minutes. This will both dry and decarboxylate your buds. I've been experimenting personally with decarbing my buds before I smoke. I believe I gets me higher when I decarb first. It offers the added bonus of being completely edible for a buzz. This can be very handy.

225 F, 30 minutes, get blazed.

Congrats on a stellar harvest. :high-five: Now you're really hooked. :laughtwo:!
 
SweetSue said:
I quick dry in the oven. You don't really get the full effect you'll get if you take a bud, cut it apart and spread it out somewhere to dry. It'll probably be dry enough to smoke in a day.

However, if you're the impatient type, like me, you can try my trick. Again, cut the buds apart to speed drying. Lay them out on a baking sheet or in a baking dish. Bake at 225 F for 30 minutes. This will both dry and decarboxylate your buds. I've been experimenting personally with decarbing my buds before I smoke. I believe I gets me higher when I decarb first. It offers the added bonus of being completely edible for a buzz. This can be very handy.

225 F, 30 minutes, get blazed.

Congrats on a stellar harvest. :high-five: Now you're really hooked. :laughtwo:!
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You stick your buds into an oven at 225 F? Wow, I thought you couldn't do that?

THC has a boiling point of 200°C (392°F). However before the THC boils, other parts of the oil evaporate and boil.

Here are some important temperatures:

At 21°C (70°F) the most volatile terpenoids start to evaporate, lending a pungent odor to the air.

At 31°C (87°F) the less volatile terpenoids start to evaporate, lending the air even more pungent odors.

At 39°C (102°F ) vir tually all of the terpenoids undergo evaporation fairly rapidly.

At 50°C (122°F) THC-Acid decarboxylates as the water molecule held in the carbonate form evaporates. This activates the THC.

At 66°C (150°F) Cannabidiol (CBD) melts and starts to evaporate.

At 185°C (365°F) Cannibinol (CBN) boils.

At 200°C (392°F) THC boils. Clear vapor from a vaporizer.

SweetSue I learn something new everyday here. I didn't know that was even possible but really cool method. Is this the preferred method to make oils aswell or just edibles?

Here's what I found on decarbing.

2. DECARB(oxylation) - Another very important step. Marijuana produces THCA which is not psychoactive. However during the drying and curing process of a marijuana harvest some of the THCA will decarb into THC (it removes the carboxylic group, COOH).

When you smoke marijuana you are also decarbing even more of the THCA into the active THC. This step also helps rupture the trichomes, making the potent oils more accessible.

When you making cannabutter or ghee, a process which involves heat, perhaps much of the THCA is decarbed, however for best results decarb before hand anyways. Decarboxylation is essential to making a good product when you are doing an extraction
WITHOUT heat, such as some tincture methods.

To Decarb : Set your oven to the lowest heat setting or around 150°F. Now place your marijuana on a baking sheet and into the oven it goes. This process could take anywhere from 30 minutes to five hours depending on how dry the marijuana was in the first place and the quantity you are using.

*NOTE: You will smell marijuana! IT IS OKAY, the aromatic terpenoids responsible for that skunky smell, vaporize at a much lower temperature than THC and other cannabinoids.

Check occasionally and when the bud is very dry and crumbles between your fingers it is ready. (Note: if you own a food dehydrator this will work as well, however it will likely take up more time).
 
Congrats FE! I have been thinking about you for most of Saturday. I do not envy you all the work you are planning on doing to the grow area today :) I am a lazy Bas*** that way :) But you at least have some nice nugs drying out. Thanks for having this journal on here and allowing us all to learn and go on this trip with you. Thanks for being you. If you start another journal please let me know cause I will def sub.
 
Congratulations on your harvest Far East Buds.
 
741 G wet this am... still big stocks attached and a little seedy unfortunately but smells really good and the buds look awesome! Room 2/3rds changed over.... It really looks good and clean clean clean!
I'll post some stuff on it later...
No takers on my questions?

FE
 
I tried to find the article I had read previously but apparently 80% of all plants will turn hermi at one point in their life cycle, often it's very very late where people may not notice, if I'm correct the later ones are normally bananas and the ones that develope early (males) have the balls.

Having said that unless the pods on the males had enough time to grow and then open up I think you were fine. Having a male doesn't automatically mean pollination but one would assume the longer you wait the chances are one will open and then you are stuffed.

If you had clones taken and they are already pretty well into the veg stage I would take a clipping put it in some rockwool with rooting hormone and put it into 12/12 for 48-72 hours. By then the clipping will develop and you will know straight away what sex it is. If it turns out they are females I'd grow them first before wasting them. The better beans can wait in all honesty while you learn with the 2nd batch. I'd plant the beans now and get them nice and ready for flowering in another 8 weeks. Hopefully you have read a bit more, learnt a bit more and will yeild greater amounts. my 2 cents. :)

I hope that helps with the questions you had.
 
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