ClobberWatts
Well-Known Member
I'm trying to keep this thread going in the way that fanlead intended it. The intention was efficiency. But after reading all of these pages, about three times now, it has lost track here and there. At the same time, we have also gained a lot of information. The goal was efficiency. If fanleaf's goal was to pull heat watts out of the equation and get as many photons to cut down on excess electrical usage, that is the point. But say you live in Alaska, those heat watts that are wasted are not wasted any more because your not putting towards a heater to make your room temp right. It's so hard to talk about efficiancy, because it is on a person to person basis. I'm pretty sure it was fanleaf that was stoked to rip out his air conditioner because of the cobs. So if I sound like a jerk to people, please do not take me out of context. Other than that, let's see if my internet lasts longer than half an hour today.
I have to say that is a yes and no. 60% us, 40 plants. Don't take me to town on this, I'm just trying to answer the guys original question about Cri's and explain it as best I can. I'm no expert. I was out of the loop for a year and a half, and only been studying this for the last six months. For fifteen years before that, it was cuts/seeds under flourescent, hps all the way..so... Oh, I forgot. I got that graph from one of growmau5's videos with greengene talking about the same thing as we are. It's off the McCree spectrum but more focused on what a marijuana plant wants instead of all species of plants. It was playing in the background heard that.. rewind.. grab photo. K. So when our chips are made, from what I understand, is they are all pretty much in the blues. They have to add filters on top of the chips to cancel out the blues to only get more red's. Why everyone calls them blurples without even knowing why. As a kid. You add more yellow "filter" to our blue to get green. Why most chips are that we want in our blue spectrums are 70 CRI. Don't need as many filters. Here is where it gets tricky. Now, I need a new paragraph.
Ok, this is where I wanted to give graytail some shit and not at the same time cuz I love the guy and I do not know if he understood what I was saying or if he was just giving me shit. Anyways Gray, If I can call you that, with my mumbling internet rant, I was trying to jumble it all together. I was trying to point out efficacy and I do not know if you thought I meant efficiency even though they are both related. Let me know if I mess this one up. Since the point was trying to explain to the James Bond of marijuana what CRI is about... Look at this chart.
These are Vero 29's. I'll explain why I'm not going cree on this later.
We got our 3000k's on the left. One 80, one 90. Normal drive current that this chip would be happy at. 2100Ma or 2.1 amps. Now are the numbers. Flux.. Basically how much light is coming out in pure power to your plants IN the spectrum you want. That is where the CRI comes in. The "filter" has now been doubled to block out more blue to give you more Red. Look at the Flux difference, then go to the right and this is where the rat in the cage starts rumbling.
Nice graph!
CRI is for people, not plants. For our purposes 80 CRI is usually best, for exactly the reason you gave. We like the white diodes because they're extremely efficient, not because they have a perfect spectrum. We don't want to tilt the spectrum by weakening the output - that makes no sense at all, especially when the entire point of using white LEDs is their efficiency.
I have to say that is a yes and no. 60% us, 40 plants. Don't take me to town on this, I'm just trying to answer the guys original question about Cri's and explain it as best I can. I'm no expert. I was out of the loop for a year and a half, and only been studying this for the last six months. For fifteen years before that, it was cuts/seeds under flourescent, hps all the way..so... Oh, I forgot. I got that graph from one of growmau5's videos with greengene talking about the same thing as we are. It's off the McCree spectrum but more focused on what a marijuana plant wants instead of all species of plants. It was playing in the background heard that.. rewind.. grab photo. K. So when our chips are made, from what I understand, is they are all pretty much in the blues. They have to add filters on top of the chips to cancel out the blues to only get more red's. Why everyone calls them blurples without even knowing why. As a kid. You add more yellow "filter" to our blue to get green. Why most chips are that we want in our blue spectrums are 70 CRI. Don't need as many filters. Here is where it gets tricky. Now, I need a new paragraph.
Ok, this is where I wanted to give graytail some shit and not at the same time cuz I love the guy and I do not know if he understood what I was saying or if he was just giving me shit. Anyways Gray, If I can call you that, with my mumbling internet rant, I was trying to jumble it all together. I was trying to point out efficacy and I do not know if you thought I meant efficiency even though they are both related. Let me know if I mess this one up. Since the point was trying to explain to the James Bond of marijuana what CRI is about... Look at this chart.
These are Vero 29's. I'll explain why I'm not going cree on this later.
We got our 3000k's on the left. One 80, one 90. Normal drive current that this chip would be happy at. 2100Ma or 2.1 amps. Now are the numbers. Flux.. Basically how much light is coming out in pure power to your plants IN the spectrum you want. That is where the CRI comes in. The "filter" has now been doubled to block out more blue to give you more Red. Look at the Flux difference, then go to the right and this is where the rat in the cage starts rumbling.
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