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current grow with a hydrogrowled 345 watt panel blue cheese 12/12 from seed in bubblers my 1st grow with led panel, i started off with cfl and then switched over to the panel about 2nd week of flowering as soon as it arrived and im so looking forward to doing a full grow with this light :)

i can safely say that led does produce buds

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i have the full diary on another site but im not allowed to post links :(

peace
 
Hey dogs, hows everything?
i still cant write PM's due to lack of post, so this will have to do ;)

The test with the SDW-t was a huge sucess :D alittle tricky at times, but all in all it was all goood!!.. thanks for all the help and info, could not have done it without you :)

Have you been doing any new grows with PAD lightning that you would like to share info about? would like to read/see anything new that has to do with PAD.

Also i would like to ask if you heard any news about the timers? i will buy at least 2 as soon as they are available.
iam soon gonna start my own PAD setup, not with the home build array i was speaking about before, but with philips new led lights i think...

Horticulture lighting - Philips

the GreenPower LED research modules comes in far red, deep red and blue, the 3 NM needed for 24h PAD, and they come in such small units and watts that one really can get the right balance between all NM more easy i believe.

they also have a new bulb that is made to replace clear incs:)

please take a look at there new lights and tell me what you think.

Hope all is well and hope to hear from you soon.

Best regard/Blue
 
Unfortunately they don't tell you what nm's are being used for the blue... I assume the deep reds are 660nm's and the far red is aprox 730nm's
 
yeah iam in a real need of those timers to! please let me know as soon as you hear anything, they really are the heart of my future setup.

i am in contact with Philips as we speak, so will get all the info i possible can on all the lights, so will let you know more, specially about the flowering lights.

even do it would be very expensive i think a 24h PAD setup with those Philips leds would be well worth it, Philips only make pure quality grow lights if u ask me ;)
 
Yes the GreenPower LED production module Deep Red 150 looks good but it only powers on 220v.. Most of us would need it in the 120v range... Plus it looks like they don't have a blue only version in the GreenPower LED production module... I'm sure it's in the near future...

But yeah some of those blue and deep red only GreenPower LED production modules mixed with the Far Red only bulbs would be a nice PAD setup... Then use some of the TP timers (when they come out) and BAMMM their it is..

The reason I would be interested in the production modules is they look to have a lot more LED's in them....

Another thing I've seen is that high power 3w LED's produce big buds... So the setup I would want should be 3w LED's.. I know that's wishful thinking.. But to be honest I think the future is quite bright for us LED growers...

PAD setups will be much easer to setup soon.. I've seen some stuff in the fish tank world that could be used to do Rauber's simple method.. Check this out.. IceCap Reef Illuminations 48" T5 & LED Combo Aquarium Lght Fixture - Aquarium Supplies, Aquarium Supply, Aquarium Equipment, Discount Fish Tanks & Fish Tank Supplies for Complete Saltwater & Freshwater Aquarium, Protein Skimmers, Saltwater Reef Aquar

I've seen 650nm T5's that could be used in this setup... This unit has two plugs.. One for the LED's and one for the T5's.. A grower could easily setup a Rauber's simple method grow... Even the blue led's seem to be the correct nm's 420-450nm's..... I know it says 420-460nm's but it's the closest I've seen... IMO the led's need to be high power 3w ones... If they were I would buy one...lol... I still might..

Absolutely let me know what Phillips say's... I would defiantly like to see some of the modules and those Far Red only bulbs..... Thanks for the info...
 
yeah the GreenPower LED production modules have more leds, but since i count 48 leds and the watts used is 35 for the deep red version, it cant even be 1w leds?

But the Deep red GreenPower LED research modules has 5 leds and draws 10w so it must be 2w leds? so using more of those units in the right % of each NM would be better i think. and those come in all the NMs needed for 24h PAD, if the blue one is in the right range that is..

i will soon have all the info from Philips about all the units they have so things will be more clear

If not this company has a good range of NMs to, and they can build what ever one could wish for. Orbital Technologies Corporation - Online Store for LED Light Bars

that Aquarium light looks real cool! :D but my goal is a pure led PAD setup ;)

the search continues, maybe the best way to go is to ask knna to build the perfect setup, since he seams to be up to speed with all Led related stuff and are experienced in DIY led setups :)

if only the TP timers could arrive... :(
 
Those just showed up today...lol... I looked last night they weren't there... I here yeah a little pricey but for a PAD far red light... I'm in... Thanks..

We need to find out what the blue light spectrum is on the blue ones.
 
Mike the thing I find when using an all Red or all Blue panel is the light distribution when only one spectrum is on..

So if let's say I have two panels, one Blue only and one Red only side by side.. It's too hard to get an even spread of the Blue and Red light over the canopy when only one spectrum is on at a time.... Did that make sense?

Now if I could get ONE single panel (made by you of course) that had both the Red 630/660nm and Blue 420/440nm in it and 'of course' had two power plugs so I could turn the Red and Blue on separately....... I would already own one....LOL


That's why those power strip (single spectrum) led lights look nice to me.. I could evenly distribute the Red and Blue spectrums through out the garden.. Then use a few of those Far Red only bulbs and make a nice PAD setup..

* Personally I would much rather have the Red and Blue spectrums on one of your GLH 360w spectra panels w/ separate power plugs and use that on my track..... But unfortunately separating the spectrums and having two power plugs on one led unit is a lot harder then one might think...

IMO in order for this to happen the LED unit will need to have two power sources and most likely the power sources will need to be external IDK...

Someday it will happen..:Rasta:
 
GrowLEDHydro said:
Man if you guys are looking for custom panels, I can get pretty much every wavelength available. Let me know.:peacetwo:
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Your panels seem to be powerful - really powerful. Have you thought about making a line of panels that were somewhat larger in physical size, but of comparable wattages? I get that the WIDE despersion lenses aren't good because even though they have a larger footprint, their penetrative ability sucks. Whereas the lenses that you use, for example, have much better penetration. I was wondering if you'd done any experimentation to see if the same number of individual LEDs with the same (or nearly so) lenses but spread out a bit on a larger panel might still allow the individual wavelengths to mix enough to give a proper mixed/blended spectrum, increase the footprint a bit, and still reach into the canopy?

I'm really showing my ignorance here, lol. Just wondering if you feel that your panels have hit that perfect balance point or if there's still room to adjust the size.

EDIT: And if a larger panel with the same number of LEDs and wattage would be feasable, would it make for an easier cooling setup inside the panel? I've not seen inside one, but I understand that the LEDs are connected to copper heatsinks.
 
Mike the thing I find when using an all Red or all Blue panel is the light distribution when only one spectrum is on..

So if let's say I have two panels, one Blue only and one Red only side by side.. It's too hard to get an even spread of the Blue and Red light over the canopy when only one spectrum is on at a time.... Did that make sense?

Now if I could get ONE single panel (made by you of course) that had both the Red 630/660nm and Blue 420/440nm in it and 'of course' had two power plugs so I could turn the Red and Blue on separately....... I would already own one....LOL
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i agree, a panel with all blue and red nm's needed for 24h PAD and in the right balance of the colors, and on diffrent plugs would ROCK!
To have the Far Red nm build in and on a separate plug to, would be even better i think. Nice and clean :)

But since that kinda panel dose not exist and would be kinda complicated to build as Dogsnova said, i to believe strips of higher watt leds is the best way to go, even spread of light and all over.
And those Philips lights seams like a very good way to go about making a hi-tech PAD setup:)
They seam to be very well tested to, and Philips only make the best quality grow lights if you ask me.

I have not gotten all the answers from Philips yet, but soon i hope...
and then we will know if they make good PAD lights, even do the Far Red Bulb seam to be a clearly good Inc replacement all ready :)

Think someone in the led business should team up with TP and make something absolutely amazing, and revolutionize cultivating meds, i would LOVE if Philips did it, but will never ever happen, but.... Mike?*blink blink*;)
 
I've not seen inside one, but I understand that the LEDs are connected to copper heatsinks.
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I believe its aluminum, i have opened up some Chinese made panels, and all have had the leds soldered to a board.
And then screwed to the heatsink, with a shet of plastic and some white cooling paste between leds and heat sink.
And from what i hear its the same for all panels made in china, ------------, Pro source worldwide and the list goes on.

Very poor quality all in all, having parts glued together with silicon, and often some bad or dry soldering, and often power supply's dying.
Have heard there new ones that are not glued with silicone and have most parts in them plug and play so minimum of soldering, and better power supply's to.

Have not opened any of Mikes panels, so cant say anything about them, but would like to know from Mike him self how his are build... ?
 
one brand of led panels did not show, any one knows why?

anyways forgot to say, that if one led goes out, half the panel dies to, is thats the same for any led light with multiply leds?
 
BörjeBlue said:
one brand of led panels did not show, any one knows why?
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Hmm... I can think of one reason: There have been, now and then, companies with less than stellar reputations. One of them seems to be particularly noxious. And there is even a thread around here somewhere - maybe in one of the review forums? - started by a member that got hosed, treated badly, and the person running the company threatened to turn all his information in to his local LEO... A company like that might find its name placed in the site's auto-censor. If it's such a company, it would make a lot of sense. (You did mention very poor quality.)

BörjeBlue said:
anyways forgot to say, that if one led goes out, half the panel dies to, is thats the same for any led light with multiply leds?
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I'd think that IF a panel's individual LEDs are wired in series - or at least in a few sets of the same, that if one of the LEDs dies, it would cause a break in the voltage path or the like?
 

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