Dutchman's Auto Quads Vs LST With A Critical+2.0 Twist!

Things are looking great Dutch! I hope the feeding perks that PEa1 right up. :goodluck:

I know you have a lot of newcomers here following your grow looking for tips, tricks, and answers for training. So I wanted to mention that your PEa2 didn't turn into the best example of LST as a comparison to quadlining the PEa1. I know you know this but for anyone who isn't aware, the theory behind LST training is that you are tricking the plant into thinking it no longer has an apical stem by keeping it as low or lower than the lowest growth on the plant. That didn't happen here for one reason or another, so while you have gotten great light to the lowers, you haven't gotten the growth that results from a redistribution of the auxins (plant growth hormones).

It's the the change in position of the apical stem relative to the rest of the plant that is key to LST, rather than just opening up the lowers to light.

Of course, sometimes the plant goes into flower before you've really had a chance for the training to have an effect. I've had a few of those! Damn autos...

Nothing against quadlining (my Peyote Critical is quadined!), but I wanted to point out that while the quads look great, the LST didn't quite get flat enough to make it work.
Hmm, I appreciate that information as I'm sure many others will. Thanks!
 
- Update -

Crystal Candy Autos #1 and #2

Day - 55


Pineapple Express Autos #1 and #2
Day - 55 PEa1 / Day - 54 PEa2



Critical+2.0
Day - 76 / Flip Day - 16







Feb.4

Hello hello again everybody! It’s time for another update and I got a few things to do over but nothing crazy. So let’s spark this blunt and get into it!


Everyone got fed and watered today. The autos all got their feed bumped up and the criticals have started to now slow down stretch and begin focusing on flower development.

I have noticed since removing the ties on PEa1 that she seems to look a little happier. After the feeding today I’m hoping for a turn around!



Her buds are forming and she’s a lovely shape I just wish I could get her leaves pointing to the lights and looking happy.

I wanted to talk about PEa2 for a minute. @InTheShed jad noticed the LST training has gone lack lustre per say. Her main “apical” stem grew strong and actually pulled the main ties I had out of the soil. At which point I did not correct it and tie her back down which I should have. This has then resulted in her not being a true representation of LST but more of a tuck and bend training with her. The idea behind LST training is to trick the plant in to not know which stem is the apical stem forcing auxins evenly through the plant. This creates a more full canopy, more bud sites and a different looking plant than my PEa2 which has a dominant apical stem growing now after the ties has been removed. This is however not the case for CCa2 who is in style of the LST but just a compact plant. All the tops are even and the auxins are evenly spread through the growth. Sorry I felt the need correct my faulty error!!

But .... The CC girls are getting really frosty now and boy do they stink! Skunky sweet pungent fruits is how it hits me right now but they are getting stronger smelling each day.



The feed for the autos was in 1 gallon of distilled water went:

-5mL CalMag
-8mL Voodoo Juice ( LAST TIME )
-6mL Bloom A + B
-8mL Big Bud
-8mL Bud Candy
PH:5.9-6.0

They all got a boost in Bloom Nutes and Big Bud. I hope to see an improvement on PEa1! Fingers crossed!

The criticals got fed today as well. Into 1 gallon of distilled water went:

-5mL CalMag
-8mL Voodoo Juice ( LAST TIME )
-8mL Bloom A + B**
-8mL Big Bud
-8mL Bud Candy
PH:5.9-6.0

These criticals continue to impress me every day. During watering I noticed them frosting up already. I didn’t have my macro lens Handy so I missed some pictures but I’ll get some good close ups tomorrow!!

Anyways that about finishes this update off! I hope you all have a great week ahead! Stay blessed and stay medicated!
 
No apologies needed Dutch! Hardly any training goes completely according to plan unless the auto is 100% cooperative. And those are rare. Damn autos...

The flowers look great and I'm glad PEa1 is starting to perk up. If you're not seeing any tip burn on it why not keep bumping the food and see what happens? It's got load more bud sites (and mouths to feed) than PEa2 so see how far you can push it!

And I'm really hoping my Critical looks like yours...
 
Highya Dutchie,

I agree with ITS. the green in the leaves is light, and looks like some yellow hues in there as well. Could be why they aren't liking the light. Cheers
 
No apologies needed Dutch! Hardly any training goes completely according to plan unless the auto is 100% cooperative. And those are rare. Damn autos...

The flowers look great and I'm glad PEa1 is starting to perk up. If you're not seeing any tip burn on it why not keep bumping the food and see what happens? It's got load more bud sites (and mouths to feed) than PEa2 so see how far you can push it!

And I'm really hoping my Critical looks like yours...
After the increased feeding PEa1 seems to be getting her green colour back and looks to be perking up! Fingers crossed she continues! I’m sure your critical will look great! It already has a great shape and thick canopy!

Highya Dutchie,

I agree with ITS. the green in the leaves is light, and looks like some yellow hues in there as well. Could be why they aren't liking the light. Cheers
Thanks Bode! I boosted her feed and hopefully she will green up and perk up over the next few days!

Those Criticals are looking great. Get ready for some giant orange nuggets! Hope you're well Dutchie! :)
Ooh man am I ready for them! I can’t wait!!!

I am well my man I hope you and the family are well!
 
After the increased feeding PEa1 seems to be getting her green colour back and looks to be perking up! Fingers crossed she continues! I’m sure your critical will look great! It already has a great shape and thick canopy!


Thanks Bode! I boosted her feed and hopefully she will green up and perk up over the next few days!


Ooh man am I ready for them! I can’t wait!!!

I am well my man I hope you and the family are well!
We're good, busy as usual. Looks like you have a great pheno there, they're so fast! Happy growing Dutchie :)
 
Mini Update
Well this isn’t a part of the normal update but it’s something I want to make note of here. I cut a clone off of Critical+2.0 a little while back. January 22 to be exact!

I cut her from a lower branch on the quadline that would never make it to the canopy so she was pretty small. I cut her base at a 45 degree angle and dipped her into Promix Rooting Powder. I then stuck her into a presoaked jiffy puck that was soaked in 1mL/L of voodoo juice. This was to help stimulate root growth. Now I started off spraying the clone every morning and evening keeping her humidity up! She sat on the heatmat at 80degrees and after a week I started giving her exposure time. ( out of dome full air exposure ). This was done once daily for 30 minutes for a couple of days.

I then started 1hr exposure intervals and after about 9 days she started showing yellow tips on a few leaves telling me she’s focusing energy on root growth and getting her feet!
Today is day 14 since being cut and I spotted the first 2 roots wanting to push through!!


So I prepped a 1Gal pot of promix for transplant. I gently sliced the mesh lining off the jiffy and inserted it into the 1gal pot. Lightly packing and covering the jiffy up.


I then watered a mixture 500mL of distilled water and 1mL of voodoo juice. I placed her back on the heat mat and now she’s on her own to take off!!

Happy to add another successful clone to my count! This one took a bit longer to root than the first critical clones but still success.

Now to let her settle in and do her stuff! This is going to be one of my carry over plants while I’m away for my wedding trip.

I’ll talk about this a bit later but I intend to keep 1-3 plants going that a friend will take care of for me while I’m away in Jamaica :cool:

Anyways big picture update later so stay tuned!!
 
Congrats on the new clone, Jamaica huh?

Thanks Penny! Yessir! Jamaica mon!! for the wedding and then honeymoon! Going for 17 days (in April) then starting my perpetual journal up with seed making and breeding! I can’t wait for the wedding and trip and I’m just as excited for the perpetual to start up! I’ve got some killer strains lined up and a few great surprises to come!


Hope your well Penny!
 
Yes it would!
A couple were going down with has relatives that live there and they are our hookups for hash and oil when we arrive so I’m going to be asking them if they can find me a legitimate source for a good couple of seeds!! I would love to bring some back and add it to my breeding in the future
 
It took a while but I finally caught up with your journal. Your plants are cruising along and looking great. I don't know how you find the time for all the pictures and updates but it's paying off. Very nice journal brother.
 
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