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Hmmm, depends how often the PM or bud rot pops up. I'm thinking we can dry it out a bit down there. Maybe drain the ocean for you and get rid of that marine layer you speak of.
Dr.Seeds Prescribes The Widow & The Alien ️️
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I'll take the marine layer and the PM over snow any day 
. If I wanted snow I woulda stayed in NY.
. If I wanted snow I woulda stayed in NY.
SQl2kGuy
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I'll take the marine layer and the PM over snow any day
Hey @InTheShed ...
Me 'n' My Hoser Buddies just built you a few new grow spaces for when you come up here to visit ...
The veg'igloo is on the left and the bloom'igloo is on the right ..
Up here in the great white north we'll call you ... "InTheIgloo" though ... we hope you like it ... eh
Nirvana Ice
Thanks Sql! Looks bright enough to grow outside during the day as well 
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Wonderfully Hooker's green plants Mr S
British racing green would indicate nitrogen toxicity then?
They are as green as a frog's ass!!!!!
Yep. Would Chartreuse be nitrogen deficiency?
I was going to say baby s*** green but I thought that it would be vulgar. I've said it now
No, you said baby s***. That's not vulgar. I'm not sure that baby shit is either.
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Day 129 Update
Hey everybody!
Lots to discuss today. First off, many of you may not know that I use MC as my base nute. I run the older version which carries a NPK ratio of 9-6-14. Their newest version runs 9-6-17 which is meant to help the plant through flower. There's less nutrients in the older version which tends to lead to deficiencies occasionally of Ca, Mg and K.
The newer version contains higher levels of Ca and Magnesium amino chelates to compensate as well as an increase of 27% Phosphorous and 24% Potassium.
So what am I getting at? Well I'm trying to run some new numbers with my MC to give me more Ca, Mg and K thoughout the flowering stage. Currently I have been running the following to give me a combined NPK ratio of 2-1-3. That has been working fine in veg but the plants outside have been showing signs of various defs, albeit not that bad. So my feed consisted of the following per 4L of water:
6.3g M.C (9-6-14)
5mL Protekt (0-0-3)
2mL Sensi Cal (4-0-0)
.4g Kelp Extract (0-0-15)
Now this is where the science hopefully works for me. Greenleaf Nutrients, the manufacturers of MegaCrop, also make several additional goodies that they want you to buy. I have the following:
Cal+Mag Pro (13-0-0) - This product contains a healthy dose of Ca at 11% and Mg at 3.5%
Bud Explosion (0-19-39) - This product also contains 1% Mg and 10% S
Sweet Candy (0-0-16) - This product contains 5.5% Mg and 13% S
I've been following many posts by farside05 and he's always throwing out some good tidbits for us to enjoy.
Did you know that plants look for 1 part S to 15-20 parts N? If your plants are not getting that then they probably will benefit with some extra Sulfur. Also, you never want your N-K ratio to exceed 1:3. Anything above that and you risk Ca lockout. The best range for most plants during growth and veg seems to be around 2-1-3 of NPK. As an example, if you have a combined total of nutes going in that equals something like 6-3-9 then you have a 2-1-3 ratio. Perfect.
If your nutes going in combine a total of 3-3-12 then you have a ratio of 1-1-4. Now your N-K ratio is above 1:3 and you're going to have problems.
So you can see it's not just throwing some nutes together and hoping things go the way you want them to. In my case I've been able to use a simple calculator that farside created and modified it to meet my needs. It's simple to plumb in some numbers and visually see the results instantly.
Having said that I'm going to use some of products above that I have been against using with MC. MC v2 is a stand alone product and does not require additives from what we have seen around the forum here. MC v1 is a different story.
Using their CM Pro has a huge amount of N in it. So much that you'll burn your plants unless you can work out how much to use. The benefits are hidden inside with the Ca and Mg if you can access them without harming the plant. PPM levels of N are best between 90-150. If you start going higher than 150 you might risk tip burn. If lower than 90 you may risk N def. So you always want to try and maintain the N at correct levels. I've been as high as 180ppm and start to notice tip burn depending on the stage of growth.
The Bud Explosion I wont be running, since the P values mess everything up when I try and get the correct ratios needed. This leads me to the Sweet Candy. The Sweet Candy contains some really high doses of of K, at 16%. My concern was how high the S was as well.
If you recall earlier, plants look for a 15-20:1 ratio N-S, so with this product it gives me a 1:1 ratio. I asked around and it appears that a 1:1 ratio is fine and I should have no problems, so this is what I'll be using for the next few feedings. Again, this is per 4L of water.
5.3g MegaCrop
5g Sweet Candy
1g Calmag Pro
With the above amounts I get a combined NPK ratio of 6-3-14 which works out to 2-1-4 for arguments sake. Exactly what I am trying to get to. I've increased my K, maintained my N and P and kept my N load at 174ppm. What has happened though is the PPM levels of my final mix have shot way up. This should be OK but may mean that I could get a buildup of salt over a period of time. My PPM level is at 1293 with an EC of 2.75.
So with all that said I'm eager to see how things react over the next few days. They both got 6L of water today with their new formula.
In closing here's a few pics of the girls.
Hey everybody!
Lots to discuss today. First off, many of you may not know that I use MC as my base nute. I run the older version which carries a NPK ratio of 9-6-14. Their newest version runs 9-6-17 which is meant to help the plant through flower. There's less nutrients in the older version which tends to lead to deficiencies occasionally of Ca, Mg and K.
The newer version contains higher levels of Ca and Magnesium amino chelates to compensate as well as an increase of 27% Phosphorous and 24% Potassium.
So what am I getting at? Well I'm trying to run some new numbers with my MC to give me more Ca, Mg and K thoughout the flowering stage. Currently I have been running the following to give me a combined NPK ratio of 2-1-3. That has been working fine in veg but the plants outside have been showing signs of various defs, albeit not that bad. So my feed consisted of the following per 4L of water:
6.3g M.C (9-6-14)
5mL Protekt (0-0-3)
2mL Sensi Cal (4-0-0)
.4g Kelp Extract (0-0-15)
Now this is where the science hopefully works for me. Greenleaf Nutrients, the manufacturers of MegaCrop, also make several additional goodies that they want you to buy. I have the following:
Cal+Mag Pro (13-0-0) - This product contains a healthy dose of Ca at 11% and Mg at 3.5%
Bud Explosion (0-19-39) - This product also contains 1% Mg and 10% S
Sweet Candy (0-0-16) - This product contains 5.5% Mg and 13% S
I've been following many posts by farside05 and he's always throwing out some good tidbits for us to enjoy.
Did you know that plants look for 1 part S to 15-20 parts N? If your plants are not getting that then they probably will benefit with some extra Sulfur. Also, you never want your N-K ratio to exceed 1:3. Anything above that and you risk Ca lockout. The best range for most plants during growth and veg seems to be around 2-1-3 of NPK. As an example, if you have a combined total of nutes going in that equals something like 6-3-9 then you have a 2-1-3 ratio. Perfect.
If your nutes going in combine a total of 3-3-12 then you have a ratio of 1-1-4. Now your N-K ratio is above 1:3 and you're going to have problems.
So you can see it's not just throwing some nutes together and hoping things go the way you want them to. In my case I've been able to use a simple calculator that farside created and modified it to meet my needs. It's simple to plumb in some numbers and visually see the results instantly.
Having said that I'm going to use some of products above that I have been against using with MC. MC v2 is a stand alone product and does not require additives from what we have seen around the forum here. MC v1 is a different story.
Using their CM Pro has a huge amount of N in it. So much that you'll burn your plants unless you can work out how much to use. The benefits are hidden inside with the Ca and Mg if you can access them without harming the plant. PPM levels of N are best between 90-150. If you start going higher than 150 you might risk tip burn. If lower than 90 you may risk N def. So you always want to try and maintain the N at correct levels. I've been as high as 180ppm and start to notice tip burn depending on the stage of growth.
The Bud Explosion I wont be running, since the P values mess everything up when I try and get the correct ratios needed. This leads me to the Sweet Candy. The Sweet Candy contains some really high doses of of K, at 16%. My concern was how high the S was as well.
If you recall earlier, plants look for a 15-20:1 ratio N-S, so with this product it gives me a 1:1 ratio. I asked around and it appears that a 1:1 ratio is fine and I should have no problems, so this is what I'll be using for the next few feedings. Again, this is per 4L of water.
5.3g MegaCrop
5g Sweet Candy
1g Calmag Pro
With the above amounts I get a combined NPK ratio of 6-3-14 which works out to 2-1-4 for arguments sake. Exactly what I am trying to get to. I've increased my K, maintained my N and P and kept my N load at 174ppm. What has happened though is the PPM levels of my final mix have shot way up. This should be OK but may mean that I could get a buildup of salt over a period of time. My PPM level is at 1293 with an EC of 2.75.
So with all that said I'm eager to see how things react over the next few days. They both got 6L of water today with their new formula.
In closing here's a few pics of the girls.
morphin
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I really curious gorilla alien! Good job so far.
I'm in.
I'm in.
Heavenly Hybrid
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I feel like I’ve read this before? Deja vu?
I think I'm a time traveler.
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I think I got the right thread now...
Welcome aboard morph! Thanks so much and if you have any questions feel free to participate. Lots of knowledge comes and goes here and as soon as I see some I'll point it out to you.I really curious gorilla alien! Good job so far.
I'm in.
Anything with Alien as a parent is going to be good.
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She really took off in the last 24 hours as far as pumping out pistils. She's gonna be a giver I think.
I think Gorilla yields big.
Your plants are looking fantastic! Interesting that your White Widow looks more indica-leaning than my WW.
And the "geeky engineer" in me loves all those NPK calculations!
And the "geeky engineer" in me loves all those NPK calculations!
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Dr. Seeds asked if they could use some pics of my GA and WW... so i sent quite a few of the GA for now and figured I might as well post some of them here.
JCTJ
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Awesome! 