DocBud's Hempy Grow

hey, Doc. just came across something i think you should read:"Sulphur deficiency symptoms in many ways resemble those of N that is, the leaves become pale-yellow or light green. Unlike N, S-deficiency symptoms appear first on the younger leaves, and persist even after N application. In cotton, tobacco and citrus, some of the older leaves are affected first. Plants deficient in S are small and spindly with short and slender stalks, their growth is retarded, maturity in cereals is delayed and fruits often do not mature fully and remain light green in colour. Nodulation in legumes may be poor and N-fixation reduced. Forages have undesirably wide N:S ratio and thus are of lower nutritive value." "Ammonium thiosulphate solution (ATS) is a popular source of S for use in liquid fertilizers because of its solubility and compatibility with various ions. Fertilizer-grade ATS in its commercial form is in a 60% aqueous solution with an (12-0-0-26S) analysis. It is compatible in any proportion with neutral to slightly...
 
...acidic phosphate-containing solutions or suspensions, as well as with aqueous ammonia (NH3) and N solutions. It is not compatible with anhydrous NH3or strong acids; thus, a wide variety of N-S, N-P-S, and N-P-K-S formulations are possible utilizing this material. Ammonium thiosulphate can be applied directly by drip, sprinkler or flood irrigation. It does not corrode metal piping nor clog spray nozzles. Thiosulphate S is unique in that it exists in two oxidation states, making it more suited to the S uptake patterns of most plants; it decomposes in the soil to form approximately equal amounts of sulphate and elemental S. The sulphate is available immediately whereas the elemental S is gradually converted to sulphate by bacterial oxidation. Ammonium thiosulphate may be synthesized by reacting SO2and NH3in aqueous solution forming at first ammonium sulphite, which reacts further with elemental S to form ATS solution. Alternatively, NH3may be absorbed in an ATS solution, reacted with SO2, then....
 
further reacted with hydrogen sulphide to form ATS solution and S." I noticed droopy leaves even tho the N is showing itself. But if you read S and N deficiencies are relative. So i searched all me nutes for S contaminants and ONLY GH FloraBloom had it. Do you have any nutes with a Sulfer soluble in it? Variations include:Ammoniun Sulphate, Single Superphosphate, Ammonium Phosphate Sulphate, Potassium Magnesium Sulphate, Potassium Sulphate, Magnesium Sulphate, Sulphates of Micronutrients, Gypsum. I watered with a close to full dose of FloraBloom rainwater. I will post results. citations from sulphurindia.com
 
AlexMurker said:
further reacted with hydrogen sulphide to form ATS solution and S." I noticed droopy leaves even tho the N is showing itself. But if you read S and N deficiencies are relative. So i searched all me nutes for S contaminants and ONLY GH FloraBloom had it. Do you have any nutes with a Sulfer soluble in it? Variations include:Ammoniun Sulphate, Single Superphosphate, Ammonium Phosphate Sulphate, Potassium Magnesium Sulphate, Potassium Sulphate, Magnesium Sulphate, Sulphates of Micronutrients, Gypsum. I watered with a close to full dose of FloraBloom rainwater. I will post results. citations from TSI-Sulphur in Indian Agriculture
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I believe the big bloom has a bit of sulfur...also epsom salts, which I've used a few times.


The plant with the biggest problem has lots of buds and is four feet tall and bushy......it wasn't getting fed, there was no soil.....


When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. In this case, the "horse" is not feeding enough. If that don't work, I'll look out for Zebras.

They seem to be doing better.....fingers crossed.

Thanks for stopping by, brutha! :peace:
 
Glad they're doing better doc!

Just to make you feel better, I thought I had eradicated my whiteflies, and I held off on the pyrethrin spray, but I found a few more last night and sprayed them.

The pyrethrin was much less noxious to me than the neem spray. It evaporated quickly and I couldn't smell even a trace of it a few minutes after spraying.

Will check tonight to see how effective it is.

Glad your plants are getting better!
 
setting sun said:
Glad they're doing better doc!

Just to make you feel better, I thought I had eradicated my whiteflies, and I held off on the pyrethrin spray, but I found a few more last night and sprayed them.

The pyrethrin was much less noxious to me than the neem spray. It evaporated quickly and I couldn't smell even a trace of it a few minutes after spraying.

Will check tonight to see how effective it is.

Glad your plants are getting better!
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While I appreciate you trying to cheer me up, hearing that you are having pest problems doesn't make me feel better.....I don't wish any pests on you! But I appreciate the sentiment.

Here's an update on me:
No new yellowing in the last 24 hours, and some of the yellow leaves have gotten a tad greener. It appears that we've started growing again, and the healthy leaves look great again.

I ended up going with a bit of Connoisseur part B, from AN, mixed in with my FF schedule. I got about a year's supply of this stuff with my BCNL Producer, and I finally got around to reading the NPK's of it, and part B was strong in K...so I gave a light dose of it.

I'm going to resume normal FF feeding with the Bloombastic from here on out.

Here are up-to-date pics
Jack Herer, main cola about 14 inches long
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White Widow, notice the sick leaves are not getting sicker, and are greening up a bit.
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top of the troubled Blue Dream
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FLO, starting to pack on weight
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Some Blue Dream sugar
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setting sun said:
they do appear to be responding well doc.

the cola on the jack herer is beautiful and it's gonna weigh after it fattens up!
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Assuming it's about as big around as a can of shave cream, and 14 inches long....do you have any estimates on dry weight?

1/2, 1 oz, 1 1/2 ?

The reason I ask is because I'm considering growing 12/12 from seed on subsequent grows, in order to concentrate on huge main colas and more plants per square footage.

This jack plant has a half dozen secondary colas, and they aren't bad either....but I've only got room for 5 plants total when they're bush like this.
 
AlexMurker said:
that blue dream looks almost ready. Are the trics changing color yet?
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Hey Alex! Thanks for stoppin by.

I haven't checked the trics for a while, but they were quite clear about 10 days ago. I'm one day into week 6 right now....so I don't think they're ready. Flowering time is 60-80 days on Blue Dream.
 
Cool. Dats wassup. Are you lookin for some amber or mostly amber? wats your reasons? Hey! GREAT NEWS! The yellow is now light to regular green now! i can barely tell they had problems at all. Youres should be getting there rite about now too? am i rite??:yummy:
 
AlexMurker said:
Cool. Dats wassup. Are you lookin for some amber or mostly amber? wats your reasons? Hey! GREAT NEWS! The yellow is now light to regular green now! i can barely tell they had problems at all. Youres should be getting there rite about now too? am i rite??:yummy:
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I'm looking for a bit of Amber, and depending on how things go, I may take the top cola's and let some of the lower buds go a bit longer....I don't know yet.

I'm gonna get some professional help for my first harvest.

All of the plants were put into flower on Sep 27, so none of them are ready yet. I'm hoping for quite a bit more growth between now and harvest.

:peace:
 
DocBud said:
Assuming it's about as big around as a can of shave cream, and 14 inches long....do you have any estimates on dry weight?

1/2, 1 oz, 1 1/2 ?

The reason I ask is because I'm considering growing 12/12 from seed on subsequent grows, in order to concentrate on huge main colas and more plants per square footage.

This jack plant has a half dozen secondary colas, and they aren't bad either....but I've only got room for 5 plants total when they're bush like this.
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I'd estimate dry weight of a cola that size at around 1-1.5 oz, but density also has a lot to do with it.
 
setting sun said:
I'd estimate dry weight of a cola that size at around 1-1.5 oz, but density also has a lot to do with it.
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Cool! We shall see, we shall see.

Had I trimmed the lower 3 branches on that plant, I'd be able to fit 12 just like it in my grow space. There's the main cola, and 3 others that are about 6 inches long, and a bunch of little stuff.

If everything goes right, I should be able to grow a pound of Jack Herer in my garden some day. :cool:
The WW cola is now as big as Jack's, and the FLO cola is not far behind.
Blue dream has more total bud, but due to the sativa influence they are all 3-5 inches long, on many branches. The top colas are about 5-6 inches, and will be longer if the totally fill in.

Dang, growing is so much fun! I've had enough excitement on this grow, however; I'm ready for a smooth, event-free finish and some nice, fat cured smoke.
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You know what man, you've done great on your first grow.

You started out just testing the waters with a few plants, not really expecting much, and now you're looking at some *nice* tasty buds!

You've learned a ton from this grow that you can apply on your next, and I'm sure your next grow is gonna rock! :rasta:
 
setting sun said:
You know what man, you've done great on your first grow.

You started out just testing the waters with a few plants, not really expecting much, and now you're looking at some *nice* tasty buds!

You've learned a ton from this grow that you can apply on your next, and I'm sure your next grow is gonna rock! :rasta:
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I could not have done it without people like you, helping me out, and all the information on this site.

BTW, when do you project your harvest date?
 
setting sun said:
I'm overdue for another trich check.


The sativa pheno looks real close, maybe Friday, depending on what trichs look like, the others are a few days behind and still swelling.

Gotta setup my drying box :grinjoint:
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:headbang::headbang::headbang::goodjob:
 
fed mine again yesterday. this time. the norm treatment 1grow3bloom1tiger. they're lookin waaaay better now with even the bud leavings are pointing up! i also added some flouresents to give a more "complete" spectum in the room. its been some days now....how your recovery comin along, Doc?
 
AlexMurker said:
fed mine again yesterday. this time. the norm treatment 1grow3bloom1tiger. they're lookin waaaay better now with even the bud leavings are pointing up! i also added some flouresents to give a more "complete" spectum in the room. its been some days now....how your recovery comin along, Doc?
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Hey Alex,

Mine are doing well, drinking again, signs of growth. I'm starting to some "normal" signs of the plant nearing the end of its life cycle, but the yellowing I was having before is gone.

I forget, are you growing in soil?
 
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