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Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures
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High Brixers! 
So Doc: Today is day 28 for my beautiful Blue Dream. Plain water dunk was done on day 23 and that was about perfect we thought (here’s the day after).
Reading the Darkscotia thread, I notice that you gave GE (Growth Ionic) as the first drench because you thought everything was going great the soil was really powering so TP wasn’t needed. (For anyone interested - here’s Doc’s post on this)
I’m only a few days away from the first proper drench, and while I’ve been assuming this would be a TP but it is really humming
so I’m wondering what your take would be. If I dont hear anything I’ll go ahead with a TP knowing that’s fine too. Just curious. (FYI the pot was ‘dunked’ in a 1/4 strength TP before planting.)
Today (day 28): those 2 newest sets of leaves are definitley showing 9 blades ,the 2-3 sets below have 7. (And anyone wondering about the brown spots on the lower leaf - just from some minor physical damage early on, cause it hangs on the edge of the pot and got a bit squsshed once 
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So Doc: Today is day 28 for my beautiful Blue Dream. Plain water dunk was done on day 23 and that was about perfect we thought (here’s the day after).
Reading the Darkscotia thread, I notice that you gave GE (Growth Ionic) as the first drench because you thought everything was going great the soil was really powering so TP wasn’t needed. (For anyone interested - here’s Doc’s post on this)
I’m only a few days away from the first proper drench, and while I’ve been assuming this would be a TP but it is really humming
so I’m wondering what your take would be. If I dont hear anything I’ll go ahead with a TP knowing that’s fine too. Just curious. (FYI the pot was ‘dunked’ in a 1/4 strength TP before planting.)Today (day 28): those 2 newest sets of leaves are definitley showing 9 blades
,the 2-3 sets below have 7. (And anyone wondering about the brown spots on the lower leaf - just from some minor physical damage early on, cause it hangs on the edge of the pot and got a bit squsshed once )
(And anyone wondering about the brown spots on the lower leaf - just from some minor physical damage early on, cause it hangs on the edge of the pot and got a bit qusshed once
Go ahead and toss it and start over!
I think TP since you want those roots to continue to flourish but when doc chimes in, you should probably go with his advice!
Darkscotia
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High Brixers!
So Doc: Today is day 28 for my beautiful Blue Dream. Plain water dunk was done on day 23 and that was about perfect we thought (here’s the day after).
Reading the Darkscotia thread, I notice that you gave GE (Growth Ionic) as the first drench because you thought everything was going great the soil was really powering so TP wasn’t needed. (For anyone interested - here’s Doc’s post on this)
I’m only a few days away from the first proper drench, and while I’ve been assuming this would be a TP but it is really humming
Today (day 28): those 2 newest sets of leaves are definitley showing 9 blades
I’d personally give them a nice drink of transplant myself. Should really make those roots nice and happy
Thanks guys!Well, I may well do that if it needs it before Doc wanders by and says otherwise (or not). In the DSapprentice thread the idea was for folks to get to see ‘Scotia & Doc run some plants, maybe trouble shoot a bit, talk about the approaches and the thinking behind and them, and to see ‘up close and personal’ how Doc does it himself
. During that grow, Doc’s and DS’s plants got treated a bit differently because they were having a different time . All Doc’s plants (the first lot and the second lot of seeds he popped) got GE on their first drench. At some level it was convenience because he happened to be drenching the rest of the room with GE that day, but also, he talked about doing that (GE as first drench) if everything was fully hooked up and really humming along. SO, I’m not meaning to diss’ anybody else’s advice - TP is what is on the instructions so it’s all good 
. I’m just curious to see. Hell, I’m curious enough just to try it myself and see what the effect is 
, at the very least I’ll learn something ... here’s the screen shot I took of Doc’s second post about it (when he gave GE to the 2nd lot of plants), basically says similar to the one I linked to above...
Just checked it and the pot is pretty light so it might be tomorrow... (and not that it’s relevant to the High Brix techniques, just a theme of my journal, but a GE now followed by a H2O and then a TP would all suit the movements of the moon very nicely too
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I say go for it, Amy!
The rationale for straying from the directions on your first run in HB would be that you're experienced with living soils, and can read a plant properly.
I was thinking the same thing you were - that the following Trans drench would be good timing for other reasons.
The rationale for straying from the directions on your first run in HB would be that you're experienced with living soils, and can read a plant properly.
I was thinking the same thing you were - that the following Trans drench would be good timing for other reasons.
Gazoo
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Plus it is very dark and makes a mess (probably just my issue) It gets on my T5's
so if not needed I would not use
This is what your looking for
Well, I may well do that if it needs it before Doc wanders by and says otherwise (or not). In the DSapprentice thread the idea was for folks to get to see ‘Scotia & Doc run some plants, maybe trouble shoot a bit, talk about the approaches and the thinking behind and them, and to see ‘up close and personal’ how Doc does it himself
Just checked it and the pot is pretty light so it might be tomorrow... (and not that it’s relevant to the High Brix techniques, just a theme of my journal, but a GE now followed by a H2O and then a TP would all suit the movements of the moon very nicely too
I say go for it, Amy!
The rationale for straying from the directions on your first run in HB would be that you're experienced with living soils, and can read a plant properly.
I was thinking the same thing you were- that the following Trans drench would be good timing for other reasons.
There you go Amy! Gray says to trust your instincts! Also, from the instructions, "When in doubt about which drench to use, use Growth Energy."
Well I’m not in doubt, as such - and I’m not sure my experience quite qualifies for what Gray said either - but I sure am contemplating following the notion, because perhaps it is an instinct. Only one way to find out, right?
If we could take two clones with equal health and vigor, and give one Trans and the other Growth, they might not look much different after a week. If they did, I'd expect the Growth clone to have longer nodes and more leaves. The calcium load in the Growth formula will contribute to stem building and leaf production. Trans supports root and flower.
Your plant has tight nodes already so a shot of calcium and nitrogen should be supportive.
When do you think you'll upcan?
Your plant has tight nodes already so a shot of calcium and nitrogen should be supportive.
When do you think you'll upcan?
Blazinjones
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Plus it is very dark and makes a mess (probably just my issue) It gets on my T5's
so if not needed I would not use
This is what your looking for
Awesome thanx man. I was jus wondering if i could use regular promix or does it have 2b promix hp? I was wondering cause i can get plain promix locally but not sure about the promix hp unless i order it online so jus tryn to save some money lol.
I’m aiming to do what Doc does and keep it in the one gal until it needs water every day - if I can! And upcan it then. Will see how i go with that.
I’m not sure how long that will take though so I’m kind of winging it a bit. I should read a bit further ahead in the DSapprentice thread and see how the timelines played out, I can get a loose idea from that.
Interesting what you say there about the calcium in the GE etc because i was wondering if (hoping actually) the GE (Growth Ionic) might encourage a bit of movement in the stems as there is very little room in there! So that sounds like it might. I dont necessarily need more leaves under there though!
It’s late evening here now and I’m pretty sure it’s nearly dry. Depending on how it looks in the morning I might drench tomorrow morning.
Amy, you little plant looks like a picture of health. Nice green petioles. Considering there were quite a few people who weren't even giving transplant in veg, I'd say go with Growth. Honestly it isn't going to hurt either way. My vote is for Growth though.
Morglie
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I'm having an issue that just cropped up with the leaf tips on my Malawi curling up. I just noticed this yesterday, so it's very recently gotten this way. Normally I would think it was nutrient burn as she's a light eater, but she's had a Transplant drench on the 7th and plain water on the 11th and 15th, so nothing recently to cause over feeding. She just got a recharge today along with her water as she was due. And she'll be ready for her first Cat in about 4 days when she's thirsty again.
Any thoughts on what this could be?
Any thoughts on what this could be?
I've been plagued by this all summer. It should be VPD related, but my temps aren't all that high and RH is in the 60s. It happens mostly to the sativas, but the hybrids also get dry tips. It's not foliars ... 
Good day to ya's , Morglie , Gray and gang. Morgs...i see couple things. That particular plant is having a lot of very key nutrients being taken up,...STOLEN by all that lower growth. Get rid of all that now, yesterday. Prune the branches up some, from the main stalk too. This will help some , also that pot only has about 4 gal's of soil, maybe less, so keep that mind.
I would prune her , as i suggested then give her a light misting of DeStress,..then see. Cheers eh.
I would prune her , as i suggested then give her a light misting of DeStress,..then see. Cheers eh.
Gazoo
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I've been plagued by this all summer. It should be VPD related, but my temps aren't all that high and RH is in the 60s. It happens mostly to the sativas, but the hybrids also get dry tips. It's not foliars ...
Thanks for that, Good to know. I'm running the ACE GUAWI ( 85% Sativa / 15% Indica) so if I see this I wont FREAK OUT
and start changing lights
Maybe an extra recharge ?
Thanks for that, Good to know. I'm running the ACE GUAWI ( 85% Sativa / 15% Indica) so if I see this I wont FREAK OUT
and start changing lights
I haven't seen this before, so I don't really know. Duggan says it's a messy skirt, so maybe that has something to do with transpiration, too. The upcurling just screams thirst to me - I associate it with Vapor Pressure Deficit.
But if it's micronutes, then DeStress sprays should fix it, along with more of an emphasis on Trans drenches than Growth.
I've been careless with Recharge timing ...
... just thinking out loud ...
Gazoo
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I haven't seen this before, so I don't really know. Duggan says it's a messy skirt, so maybe that has something to do with transpiration, too. The upcurling just screams thirst to me - I associate it with Vapor Pressure Deficit.
But if it's micronutes, then DeStress sprays should fix it, along with more of an emphasis on Trans drenches than Growth.
I've been careless with Recharge timing ...
... just thinking out loud ...
Thanks I was just hoping to hit on a way to prevent the issue since all the environmental factor's are in order
? clean-up makes perfect sense, Good call