Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

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Graytail said:
LOL, holy crap man, that's some gorgeous bud!

First soil grow, you say? So I'm guessing you like it better than hydro ...

LOL, Beautiful!
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Thanks!
This is my third run in the High Brix soil. I ran the Silver Pearl and the White Skunk before these. I think I am getting the hang of it now. I have been lurking in your Journal, you have amazing looking plants! I was especially interested in the Hawaiian Snow, (as mine never grew) and your Great White Shark. What do you think of it? I wasn't too impressed, especially compared to what was growing beside it (lemon, strawberry and the church.) It finished nice, but never got as swollen as yours, nor started to purple (my night lows are around 20C).

Take a look at these photos, all the nodules on the plants are like these. They bulged out after the cationic drench.
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This has not happened on any of the other grows. They have about another 4-5 weeks to go. I plan on hitting them with cationic in about 2-3 weeks, depending on what they are looking like.
 
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cgrowman said:
Thanks!
This is my third run in the High Brix soil. I ran the Silver Pearl and the White Skunk before these. I think I am getting the hang of it now. I have been lurking in your Journal, you have amazing looking plants! I was especially interested in the Hawaiian Snow, (as mine never grew) and your Great White Shark. What do you think of it? I wasn't too impressed, especially compared to what was growing beside it (lemon, strawberry and the church.) It finished nice, but never got as swollen as yours, nor started to purple (my night lows are around 20C).

Take a look at these photos, all the nodules on the plants are like these. They bulged out after the cationic drench.
Nodule_1.JPG
Nodule_2.JPG
White_Skunk.JPG
White_Skunk_2_.JPG


This has not happened on any of the other grows. They have about another 4-5 weeks to go. I plan on hitting them with cationic in about 2-3 weeks, depending on what they are looking like.
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Yep. You're getting the hang of it. :thumb:

How does everything taste and feel compared to weed you've had pre-brix?
 
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Doc Bud said:
Yep. You're getting the hang of it. :thumb:

How does everything taste and feel compared to weed you've had pre-brix?
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The smell is INCREDIBLY powerful, you bust up a nug and the whole house reeks! It's been seven days drying (yes, I do the wash) drying and only a couple into the cure, taste is still nothing like I have ever had. It's 99% hydro where I live, and right now everyone is into Kush -maybe I havent had well grown Kush, but I am not a fan. The local stuff is harsh and average tasting. High Brix is smooth, smooth, smooth. Nice burn all the way through, and each variety unique and nuanced. I have been to the Dam a dozen times or more, it was rare to find stuff this quality there- and that's the only place I have ever seen/smelled/smoked stuff of this quality. I honestly am in awe that I actually grew this...

I have been getting some rust spotting on some of my leaves, this has happened every grow. At first I thought I might have burnt leaves with the Brix. I have cut back on the dose and the intensity of the sprays. That didnt seem to work. I then thought it might be magnesium, as the leaves are quite curled. Nothing has worked as of yet. Thoughts?
 
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I have never seen this type of leaf damage. Only found this one leaf on a wild thai girl. Looked threw a 60x but could not see anything. Weird....any thoughts? Posted in bugs, pests etc too.

Any2
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cgrowman said:
Thanks!
This is my third run in the High Brix soil. I ran the Silver Pearl and the White Skunk before these. I think I am getting the hang of it now. I have been lurking in your Journal, you have amazing looking plants! I was especially interested in the Hawaiian Snow, (as mine never grew) and your Great White Shark. What do you think of it? I wasn't too impressed, especially compared to what was growing beside it (lemon, strawberry and the church.) It finished nice, but never got as swollen as yours, nor started to purple (my night lows are around 20C).

Take a look at these photos, all the nodules on the plants are like these. They bulged out after the cationic drench.

This has not happened on any of the other grows. They have about another 4-5 weeks to go. I plan on hitting them with cationic in about 2-3 weeks, depending on what they are looking like.
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I've noticed swollen nodes as well. I like it and figure its a sign of things going well because my plants look great as far as I'm concerned.


Any2cards said:
I have never seen this type of leaf damage. Only found this one leaf on a wild thai girl. Looked threw a 60x but could not see anything. Weird....any thoughts? Posted in bugs, pests etc too.

Any2
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Only thing I've had that looked similar to that were leaf miners, but the trails were thicker and fewer. Thrips leave small squiggle lines like that but usually silvery with super tiny black spots as well. If I didn't have the doc to ask ?s I'd probably clean everything and spray bug and pest from the kit. But shit I get high all the time and invent my own theories as often as possible. Don't listen to me.
 
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Those little marks on your leaves are likely due to Thripes.

A good SOAKING with the Bug and Pest spray included in the kit should do the trick! I think you've got 4 applications of the stuff at least, mixed at 1/2 ounce per quart of water. Get tops and bottoms of the leaves and it should do the trick.

However, don't freak about those bugs....as the plant matures and brix rises you might think those bugs went away all on their own, as the high sugar content of the leaves will drive them out.

Welcome to the High Brix Club! You are now an official member in good standing with all voting privileges, etc. We don't have meetings, don't vote, and rarely stand.....but if we did, you'd be able to stand, vote and enjoy all the benefits of membership....in addition to the knowledge that you grew some fabulous weed all by yourself!

Oh....I should warn you.....subsequent grows will improve as will your skills with the kit. Two cycles from now you'll have MUCH BETTER produce....which will completely ruin your enjoyment of most other weed. I'm sorry about that, it's a side effect of kit growing.

Kit=snobbery. Horrible, disgusting, nose in the air snobbery.
 
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cgrowman said:
The smell is INCREDIBLY powerful, you bust up a nug and the whole house reeks! It's been seven days drying (yes, I do the wash) drying and only a couple into the cure, taste is still nothing like I have ever had. It's 99% hydro where I live, and right now everyone is into Kush -maybe I havent had well grown Kush, but I am not a fan. The local stuff is harsh and average tasting. High Brix is smooth, smooth, smooth. Nice burn all the way through, and each variety unique and nuanced. I have been to the Dam a dozen times or more, it was rare to find stuff this quality there- and that's the only place I have ever seen/smelled/smoked stuff of this quality. I honestly am in awe that I actually grew this...

I have been getting some rust spotting on some of my leaves, this has happened every grow. At first I thought I might have burnt leaves with the Brix. I have cut back on the dose and the intensity of the sprays. That didnt seem to work. I then thought it might be magnesium, as the leaves are quite curled. Nothing has worked as of yet. Thoughts?
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Don't cut back on Brix....they need it!
By design, the kit soil flirts with magnesium def, as we're shooting for a 10 to 1 cal/mag ratio. When I start to see early signs of mag def. I add a couple tablespoons of Epsom salt to each pot, top dressed, and water it in the next time they get water/drench.

If possible, feed Energy when you add Epsom salt, as Energy is high in calcium which will help keep the ratio's in spec.

The kit is adapted from medium/large scale agriculture gear that assumes good old city/well water with minerals in it. I'm still learning the nuances of indoor gardening with outdoor Ag products.

We're getting there! Just add some Epsom salt for a couple waterings and things should be fine. BTW, your buds will be much better if you flirt with the Mag def. Adding too much mag will lower brix, impede terpene formation and generally decrease the quality of your buds.

We want barely enough mag to insure photosynthesis is at it's peak.....any more than that interferes with nitrogen uptake and will create all sorts of trouble.

This is why I do NOT recommend dolomite lime as a pH buffer. High quality produce is impossible with that much mag.
 
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Curso said:
I love the club, its fun to be a weed snob.

I just want to remind you guys doing the late Cat drench to allow your plants enough time to get a dose of energy to finish them off.
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Definitely! Energy makes things sweet. Transplant also, but to a lessor extent. The cat drench will amplify certain flavors as well, but won't produce the sugars like Energy. I'll put it like this:

If we were growing tomatoes, Energy would make them super sweet, fat and delicious. Cat drench would make them have a very strong "tomato" taste....maybe too strong. Transplant would be somewhere in between.

Energy is the most important drench we use. If we only had one, that would be the one to keep. But using all 3 (and who knows what we'll be doing in 6 months as we learn more) is definitely raising the bar.

Your observations and work with the timing of the Cat drench is excellent Curso! Thanks for helping us all out on that!

The "club" should have a meeting of regional directors sometime. I'm thinking Central Coast wine country....surfing included for those so inclined.

High Brix weed goes well with organic, hand-grown, grass fed beef, high brix veggies, etc. If our club actually met, and voted, that would be my vote!

BTW.....scissor hash of harvested OG is devastating. This is without a doubt the most potent weed I've grown to date, based on the scissor/finger hash. Smooth, delicious, and sneaky-ass strong. Next time I'm growing the OG, I'm gonna take some a week earlier at 10 weeks. The low brix soil allowed the triches to amber out a bit, so the later harvested stuff is much more Indica-like in effect than the earlier buds.

OG's are cool that way....you get 2 plants in one merely by staggering the harvest.

Harvesting Champagne today!
 
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shottafire said:
I was gonna say thrips as well. Better its thrips than leaf miners or mites.
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haha....you got that right.

I keep thripes as pets in my garden.....when I see their tracks in veg I just smile, knowing they'll all move on when the brix rises. Same with mites, although I did have to spray for them on the OG's....due to the lower brix, which was done on purpose.

BTW, I tested some mite-damaged ugly leaves and got brix at 22! LOL!!! No, brix wasn't that high...but the leaves were dehydrated and unhealthy, so the Brix Reading was artificially high due to poor testing methodology. Actual brix on those plants was flirting with 11, never higher. My normal levels are 15 to 17 on healthy, growing tissue.

But, if you're gonna grow a strain that likes high salts, this is what you gotta do!
 
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Doc Bud;1904087BTW said:
, I tested some mite-damaged ugly leaves and got brix at 22! LOL!!! No, brix wasn't that high...but the leaves were dehydrated and unhealthy, so the brix was artificially high due to poor testing methodology. Actual brix on those plants was flirting with 11, never higher. My normal levels are 15 to 17 on healthy, growing tissue.
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I'm glad to see you post this, Doc. Sample selection for brix testing can be a bit tricky, as I've discovered.
 
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Graytail said:
I'm glad to see you post this, Doc. Sample selection for brix testing can be a bit tricky, as I've discovered.
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I included this little exchange of ours from the "In the Lab" thread regarding this topic.

In The Lab
 
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What is a good refractometer to get. I have not purchased one yet and might not be able for a couple weeks. but want to get one soon.
any advice on ones to look at and ones to avoid?
 
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shottafire said:
What is a good refractometer to get. I have not purchased one yet and might not be able for a couple weeks. but want to get one soon.
any advice on ones to look at and ones to avoid?
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Sent you a message :)
Edit: to me its not quite as much about the refractormeter (doesnt have to be expensive) as much as it about how you take the sample. Get a tool made for sampling. Makes life much, much more guess free.
 
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You have a picture of the tool. I was thinking i would use this wheat grass juicer but not sure If I can take that much leaf matter off every week. Vise grips might work. trying to figure it out today
 
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Doc Bud said:
Don't cut back on Brix....they need it!
By design, the kit soil flirts with magnesium def, as we're shooting for a 10 to 1 cal/mag ratio. When I start to see early signs of mag def. I add a couple tablespoons of Epsom salt to each pot, top dressed, and water it in the next time they get water/drench.

If possible, feed Energy when you add Epsom salt, as Energy is high in calcium which will help keep the ratio's in spec.


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Thanks Doc. I do remember you posting this before thats why I have been very cautious about adding any Epsom salts. I was adding about 2 tsp per plant- just not enough.

I remember you talking about langebenite, was that just for your OG-low brix?

When I added Epsom salts on the last grow it didnt do that much, maybe it was because I had not added enough. My one thought about the rust spots, is that it might be a Sulfur def. Although the Epsom would help in that, it is also adding in Mag. What about adding elemental Sulfur?
 
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shottafire said:
You have a picture of the tool. I was thinking i would use this wheat grass juicer but not sure If I can take that much leaf matter off every week. Vise grips might work. trying to figure it out today
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There's a version called a sheet metal clamp/pliers. It has two flat plates where the jaws meet - perfect for squashing stuff. :thumb:
 
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shottafire said:
You have a picture of the tool. I was thinking i would use this wheat grass juicer but not sure If I can take that much leaf matter off every week. Vise grips might work. trying to figure it out today
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Stainless mortar and pestle works great.
Any refractometer will do as long as it reads 1-30 and not 30-60 etc. Refractometers are also used for cutting oil and things like that.
 
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